Multi-metering mode tutorial here!

OK a lot of people are getting confused about how to use
multi-metering mode on their C8080 so here's a little tutorial for
those who want to use it.

The first photo is taken with the usual ESP mode which is adequate
for about 75% of all shots. Some shots though need a bit more user
control to get the results you want and that's where the multi mode
comes in.

It's a lot to ask of your camera to be able to take perfect
exposures every time without your input. If it could there would be
no professional photographers as everybody would be a pro.

The shot below was taken in ESP mode and proved to much for the
camera this mode as the highlights are well blown and a lot of
detail is lost.



The next shot is taken by using the camera in multi-metering mode
where a person samples segments of a scene by using the AEL button
which is located on the front of the camera and pressing it upto 8
times at different portions of the scene.

Notice how the details on the left are now visible where as in ESP
mode they are blown.



The photo below shows the points that were metered. More points
could have been sampled but in this instance only 4 were needed.



Please try this technique yourself as you have a camera which is
quite advanced and it would be a bit of a waste not to stretch both
your own and cameras ability. See how far you can take this camera!

Some more examples of multi metering can be seen here:
http://www.pbase.com/stevieboroboy/c8080_shots&page=all

Regards
Steve
--
'Unless you go beyond what you have already mastered you will not
grow'
http://www.freeyourmind.info
--
http://www.pbase.com/wenzel
 
Hi,

I am new to multi-metering. While I have it too on my C5060, I am wondering, would bracket with +-0.3EV X 5 or +-0.7EV X 5 or even +-1EVX5 give you a chance to get a good expoure in harsh high contrast situation, since as far as I understand, mulitmetering actually caculates average from multply spots. Will that give you more procision than +-0.3 ev compensation in a row?

I use iESP all the time, normally, I meter on mid tone then take three 0.3 ev bracket, and to backup i meter the area close to highlights (if I want to preserve details in highlights) to take another 0.3 bracket.
Thanks

Indyong
http://www.pbase.com/indyong
OK a lot of people are getting confused about how to use
multi-metering mode on their C8080 so here's a little tutorial for
those who want to use it.

The first photo is taken with the usual ESP mode which is adequate
for about 75% of all shots. Some shots though need a bit more user
control to get the results you want and that's where the multi mode
comes in.

It's a lot to ask of your camera to be able to take perfect
exposures every time without your input. If it could there would be
no professional photographers as everybody would be a pro.

The shot below was taken in ESP mode and proved to much for the
camera this mode as the highlights are well blown and a lot of
detail is lost.



The next shot is taken by using the camera in multi-metering mode
where a person samples segments of a scene by using the AEL button
which is located on the front of the camera and pressing it upto 8
times at different portions of the scene.

Notice how the details on the left are now visible where as in ESP
mode they are blown.



The photo below shows the points that were metered. More points
could have been sampled but in this instance only 4 were needed.



Please try this technique yourself as you have a camera which is
quite advanced and it would be a bit of a waste not to stretch both
your own and cameras ability. See how far you can take this camera!

Some more examples of multi metering can be seen here:
http://www.pbase.com/stevieboroboy/c8080_shots&page=all

Regards
Steve
--
'Unless you go beyond what you have already mastered you will not
grow'
http://www.freeyourmind.info
 
I tried multi-metering and found it cumbersome and unnecessary. Because direct histogram is an exclusive feature of Olympus, people generally don't know about it or use it, but it's actually the most intuitive metering method possible. What's easier than increasing or decreasing brightness (EV) while watching the camera tell you in real-time what parts of the scene are blown out or too dark?

I use the AEL button mainly for locking exposure while taking panoramas.
What's important about direct histogram is that it is quick and easy:
  • First, customize your menu so the direct histogram is set to option A, B, or C for quick access (page 157 of ref. manual - Shortcut)
  • Change the Dial to Custom 1 or 2 (page 150). This lets you adjust EV with the dial only (without having to press the EV button)
0. Turn on direct histogram
1. Shoot in aperture priority (generally f4 - 4.5 is sharpest)

2. Roll the thumbwheel until red rectangles are minimized if you're avoiding blown highights and take the picture.

I really like being able to push the exposure to the limit without going over as this is really important with digicams if you want to minimize noise.

The only drawback to direct histogram is that you cannot overlay the framing assist guide (tic-tac-toe lines) at the same time.
Good one, Steve. Brief and exactly to the point ...and
illustrative too - "a picture is worth...." etc
Jared's alternative (Histogram use) is valid but frankly I believe
it likely to be not as easy to follow by very many users..after
all...ask yourself, how many DO use the Histogram...and I think I'm
right in saying that it isn't even turned on by default, whereas
the AEL button is there for the asking
 
I use the AEL button mainly for locking exposure while taking
panoramas.
What's important about direct histogram is that it is quick and easy:
  • First, customize your menu so the direct histogram is set to
option A, B, or C for quick access (page 157 of ref. manual -
Shortcut)
  • Change the Dial to Custom 1 or 2 (page 150). This lets you adjust
EV with the dial only (without having to press the EV button)

0. Turn on direct histogram
1. Shoot in aperture priority (generally f4 - 4.5 is sharpest)
2. Roll the thumbwheel until red rectangles are minimized if you're
avoiding blown highights and take the picture.

I really like being able to push the exposure to the limit without
going over as this is really important with digicams if you want to
minimize noise.

The only drawback to direct histogram is that you cannot overlay
the framing assist guide (tic-tac-toe lines) at the same time.
Good one, Steve. Brief and exactly to the point ...and
illustrative too - "a picture is worth...." etc
Jared's alternative (Histogram use) is valid but frankly I believe
it likely to be not as easy to follow by very many users..after
all...ask yourself, how many DO use the Histogram...and I think I'm
right in saying that it isn't even turned on by default, whereas
the AEL button is there for the asking
I'm not ashamed to say that I can find nothing invalid in this and like your very clear and easy setup 'instruction'. To be further honest, I guess I've just never taken time to find out HOW you readily get the Histogram...and I bet there are many others who would have to admitto the same sloppy mind. It IS good and I shall certainly give it a better try-out as I can well see the ease and effectiveness, once you set it up this way. Thanks for pushing it.

--
EJN
 
I hope it works out for you. It is one of the main reasons I picked the 8080 and a key advantage over any dSLR.
I'm not ashamed to say that I can find nothing invalid in this and
like your very clear and easy setup 'instruction'. To be further
honest, I guess I've just never taken time to find out HOW you
readily get the Histogram...and I bet there are many others who
would have to admitto the same sloppy mind. It IS good and I
shall certainly give it a better try-out as I can well see the ease
and effectiveness, once you set it up this way. Thanks for pushing
it.

--
EJN
 
I use the AEL button mainly for locking exposure while taking
panoramas.
What's important about direct histogram is that it is quick and easy:
  • First, customize your menu so the direct histogram is set to
option A, B, or C for quick access (page 157 of ref. manual -
Shortcut)
  • Change the Dial to Custom 1 or 2 (page 150). This lets you adjust
EV with the dial only (without having to press the EV button)

0. Turn on direct histogram
1. Shoot in aperture priority (generally f4 - 4.5 is sharpest)
2. Roll the thumbwheel until red rectangles are minimized if you're
avoiding blown highights and take the picture.

I really like being able to push the exposure to the limit without
going over as this is really important with digicams if you want to
minimize noise.

The only drawback to direct histogram is that you cannot overlay
the framing assist guide (tic-tac-toe lines) at the same time.
Good one, Steve. Brief and exactly to the point ...and
illustrative too - "a picture is worth...." etc
Jared's alternative (Histogram use) is valid but frankly I believe
it likely to be not as easy to follow by very many users..after
all...ask yourself, how many DO use the Histogram...and I think I'm
right in saying that it isn't even turned on by default, whereas
the AEL button is there for the asking
One question,

After I "Change the Dial to Custom 1 or 2 (page 150). This lets you adjust EV with the dial only (without having to press the EV button)"

How can I change the aperture in Aperture priority - as you suggested?(The thumbwheel adjusts EV now....)
 
OK a lot of people are getting confused about how to use
multi-metering mode on their C8080 so here's a little tutorial for
those who want to use it.

The first photo is taken with the usual ESP mode which is adequate
for about 75% of all shots. Some shots though need a bit more user
control to get the results you want and that's where the multi mode
comes in.

It's a lot to ask of your camera to be able to take perfect
exposures every time without your input. If it could there would be
no professional photographers as everybody would be a pro.

The shot below was taken in ESP mode and proved to much for the
camera this mode as the highlights are well blown and a lot of
detail is lost.



The next shot is taken by using the camera in multi-metering mode
where a person samples segments of a scene by using the AEL button
which is located on the front of the camera and pressing it upto 8
times at different portions of the scene.

Notice how the details on the left are now visible where as in ESP
mode they are blown.



The photo below shows the points that were metered. More points
could have been sampled but in this instance only 4 were needed.



Please try this technique yourself as you have a camera which is
quite advanced and it would be a bit of a waste not to stretch both
your own and cameras ability. See how far you can take this camera!

Some more examples of multi metering can be seen here:
http://www.pbase.com/stevieboroboy/c8080_shots&page=all

Regards
Steve
--
'Unless you go beyond what you have already mastered you will not
grow'
http://www.freeyourmind.info
Steve,

Thanks for that refresher. I could have used it this past sunday at the Races.

Ray
--
: Olympus C-8080WZ :
 
I missed this thread when it started, but would like to add my comments now, although it's late.

Multi-spot metering is nothing new with Olympus, I used it with the OM-4, 15-20 years ago, and I must say it's not such a great feature. You must be very careful about selecting the spots, due to its simple averaging algorithm. If you take one spot in the shadows and two in highlights, the highlights will have twice the weight, and your exposure will be off. You must select pairs of spots which will balance each other.

In the film era, there weren't many options, and this was one way to assist in proper exposure. Today, histograms, and especially 'real time' histogram, are much better tools, as was pointed out by other participants on this discussion. Also, examining the result with its histogram immediately after the shot (which you couldn't do with film) will tell you if you need to correct anything.

Moshe
 
I missed this thread when it started, but would like to add my
comments now, although it's late.

Multi-spot metering is nothing new with Olympus, I used it with the
OM-4, 15-20 years ago, and I must say it's not such a great
feature. You must be very careful about selecting the spots, due to
its simple averaging algorithm. If you take one spot in the shadows
and two in highlights, the highlights will have twice the weight,
and your exposure will be off. You must select pairs of spots which
will balance each other.

In the film era, there weren't many options, and this was one way
to assist in proper exposure. Today, histograms, and especially
'real time' histogram, are much better tools, as was pointed out by
other participants on this discussion. Also, examining the result
with its histogram immediately after the shot (which you couldn't
do with film) will tell you if you need to correct anything.

Moshe
Yes, you are right. I also used OM-4 and must say that my expectations of Multi Metering brought only disappointments. Personally, I think that the best light metering has been executed by Cadmium Sulphide cells before Silicon Photodiodes appear.CdS photocells were "slow thinking" but much more resistant to hard light condition like taking pictures of people under tree. Look, how many various metering systems has been developed to overcome the high contrast scene problems.

Finally, why nobody mention the Center Weighted method of metering, which was very popular and successfull in the past.

Adam

http://www.pbase.com/adam3544/root
 
...
Personally, I think that the best light metering has been executed
by Cadmium Sulphide cells before Silicon Photodiodes appear.CdS
photocells were "slow thinking" but much more resistant to hard
light condition like taking pictures of people under tree. Look,
Yes, I remember my first light meter, Weston Master II, and then I upgraded to Weston Master V (which I still have, and it works!).

Moshe
 

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