In some countries,this forum would be impossible.
And I think that we would all agree on that.
BUT quite a few people had to die so that we could have this luxury.
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And I think that we would all agree on that.
BUT quite a few people had to die so that we could have this luxury.
Regards
GR
megapixelmonk_
Active member
I guess the body with head seperated from shoulders was a fake as well...
As for the rest of your ad hominem, it matters not to me your obviously skewed oppinions of the world around you. You obviously have problems.
As for the rest of your ad hominem, it matters not to me your obviously skewed oppinions of the world around you. You obviously have problems.
BirdsAndMore
Leading Member
Never did get around to seeing Star Wars, did you? "I guess those Chewbaccas, Storm Troopers, and that Death Star thing were fake as well."
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megapixelmonk_
Active member
Again,
You must have personal problems that make you anti-social and rude like you are so I'm going just ignore your childish behaviour.
They actually found the 27-year-old's body with head, seperate from his body. It was real. Now you may continue on your way treating people with dissrespect.
MM
You must have personal problems that make you anti-social and rude like you are so I'm going just ignore your childish behaviour.
They actually found the 27-year-old's body with head, seperate from his body. It was real. Now you may continue on your way treating people with dissrespect.
MM
BirdsAndMore
Leading Member
Good riddance!!
Found by whom? What the hell makes you so eager to believe this and so unable to believe the Grinning Torturer photos must needs be fake? I mean besides the obvious inability to grasp logical concepts? It's PROFOUNDLY sad that people like you take so much joy in watching an American civilian be killed, so you can proudly and happily say "See? I told you those Arabs were BAD people?"
So I have your permission now? Because if that's how it works, you certainly don't have MY permission to put forward such idiocy under the mask of informed discussion.
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John Burns
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...neither the beheading nor the prison photos are fake.
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london Luke
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Soldiers joined the Army to go to war. Security team members are paid a fortune to go to Iraq. Ex prison officers paid a fortune to. They know it wont be easy and they could get killed....But the $$$$ pulls them in.This Guy wanted to Help(According to media etc) but also wanted to earn money. He knew it was a dangerous place.
The men that killed him believed they where right......
The soldiers who have bombed and shot 1000's of civilians etc thought they where doing right. The Women,young and old, Where there because it is where they live.Its there home. They where not there from choice or for money.
Lets not get all high ands mighty!!!!!!! jesus...Next we will all be Buying John Lennon records and lighting candles.
The blame lies at the feet of the US and UK Goverment. They not the Army started all this.
I feel far more sorry for the innocent.And this guy wasnt. He wanted to be there
.But hey...He's an American and worth far more than a 100 sand covered kids......
The men that killed him believed they where right......
The soldiers who have bombed and shot 1000's of civilians etc thought they where doing right. The Women,young and old, Where there because it is where they live.Its there home. They where not there from choice or for money.
Lets not get all high ands mighty!!!!!!! jesus...Next we will all be Buying John Lennon records and lighting candles.
The blame lies at the feet of the US and UK Goverment. They not the Army started all this.
I feel far more sorry for the innocent.And this guy wasnt. He wanted to be there
.But hey...He's an American and worth far more than a 100 sand covered kids......
megapixelmonk_
Active member
He was an innocent non-combatant. This was retaliation for HUMILIATION of their people.
I'm SURE the families of the victims of 9/11, or those burned and hung on the bridge or dragged through the streets dead, would have preferred their family members just "humiliated" set free and then compensated for their troubles!!!
What an absurdity! They should show Daniel Perl's and Berg's decapitation on NETWORK TV, all day long, right along side those "humiliation" pictures.
What a joke. Where are the apologies from the WORLD for our loss? King of Jordan?
ANYONE?
OUTRAGE!
I'm SURE the families of the victims of 9/11, or those burned and hung on the bridge or dragged through the streets dead, would have preferred their family members just "humiliated" set free and then compensated for their troubles!!!
What an absurdity! They should show Daniel Perl's and Berg's decapitation on NETWORK TV, all day long, right along side those "humiliation" pictures.
What a joke. Where are the apologies from the WORLD for our loss? King of Jordan?
ANYONE?
OUTRAGE!
jase
Leading Member
It seems that he is wearing an immacualte white football shirt.
Strange, but who knows?
Strange, but who knows?
It doesn't matter who did what to who first. We're supposed to be the the "Good Guys" and not stoop to this level no matter what we have done to us. Liberals and Conservatives should be appauled by the photos equally... the fact that one party isn't as angered by the actions of our troops (as much as they are about the media covering the horror in the first place) truly tells what kind of people they are. I must assume you are included in that latter group. Who's the scum?
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
Laurentiu Todie
Senior Member
He who assumes is scum!
BirdsAndMore
Leading Member
No, London Luke was completely right, and your message shows an alaming lack of respect for any opinion that doesn't perfectly match yours. You didn't even address a word he wrote.
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Perhaps if we all ignored which side a man comes from, remove "Arab" and "American" from our thoughts, and consider all as humans we would enlighten ourselves. One man is shot or bombed in battle. One man is urinated on, suffers pain and is unjustly humiliated. One man has his head amputated with a kitchen knife in an act calculated for its effect. Substitute " an Arab" or "an American" for "one man" - the judgement should be the same. And I'm pretty sure none of those involved were self-sufficient hermits - I guess they were all participants in the wider economy.
As to the photographs - they show little technical or artistic merit.
As to the photographs - they show little technical or artistic merit.
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london Luke
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The war is a Photograph........ And George and Tony are masters of Photoshop CS> --
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Petteri Sulonen
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If you hear of someone walking into a Hell's Angels bar wearing a Bandidos jacket, and subsequently getting beatent to death, what will your reaction be?
(1) Shock and outrage at the senseless brutality of the Hell's Angels, or
(2) "What an IDIOT!"
Fact is, that in Iraq we're the Bandidos now, and the Hell's Angels are running the place (CPA illusions notwithstanding). Any non-Muslim non-Arab who goes there is basically asking for trouble. Worse if you're American and Jewish.
Oh, and that applies to many areas of Pakistan and most areas of Afghanistan too.
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90% of the Iraqi prisoners were 'arrested' by mistake or for nothing. They're not really even prisoners of war. Most of them were taken from their families in the middle of the night at the beginning of the war during the door to door raids the U.S. and Brit troops were doing. Probably less than half of these PEOPLE (I say people in upper case because I fear that many of YOUR type think them subhuman and somehow deserve to be brutalized.) were even in the wrong place at the wrong time, i.e. riots and looting which may or may not have been insighted by the coalition in the first place. It is true there is no justification for what happened to our guys but what happens to our guys is not justification for us to take revenge either. People who believe otherwise are just plain psychotic.
"In the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost, no one gets away with nothing no how"
That's a direct quote from your buddy Charles Manson.
Laurentiu Todie
Senior Member
Would that have been "profiling" used against "profiling"?!?
(interesting time we live)
(interesting time we live)
megapixelmonk_
Active member
They were FAKE. All the UK photos were fake. Go back in your holes.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/13/iraq.abuse.uk/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/13/iraq.abuse.uk/index.html
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