70-210 D nikkor

Anand Sankaran · May 7, 2004

I hope Nikon releases a lens like that for about $600. With so many D70s selling, it should not be difficult for them to sell these lenses.

Not all of us want the fast glass [and lug that weight].

You are right, either you have the 70-300 D-ED or the 80-200 2.8 lens.

The 70-210 D and the 75-300 AF lenses share the same optics as the 80-200 / 2.8 lens with a f/4 - f/5.6 variable aperture.

Both these lenses are sharp, focus fast and very reliable.

It is a pity Nikon discontinued them and with the D ED lens.

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GeeJay · May 7, 2004

Jack Stivers said:
I just got a 70-210--non D--off eBay ($130). It's in great
condition. But at anything longer than 100mm, the AF hunts and
hunts and will not lock. It finally parks at the closest focus
setting.

On manual focus, it's very sharp.

I'm using it on an S2. Anyone have this experience? Will
switching to a "D" version help?

Thanks, Jack

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Jack,

I read your post today about your 70-210 non D lense. I have one also that I have had since late 80s. I took mine outside after reading your post to see if it did hunt at all when focusing. I have a D70 and use it on that.

I went out in the high wind with no tripod (haven't bought that yet) and between my shaking and the wind moving everything in sight I got this picture....AND I have NO hunting at all in my non D 70-210 lense... I did use a shutter speed over 500 inorder to slow things down

GeeJay

Joseph · May 7, 2004

I got mine, new, a while back for $399 Cadn. ( ~~285 US?).~~

It is a lens w/ good AF speed and good optics (even w/o any ED element) for the money. If it is a constant aperture lens (i.e. staying w/ f/4 all the way) it would be a great bargain.

Anand Sankaran said:
Wow. I paid $133 for mine.

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lharris · May 7, 2004

$102.50 3 days ago...EBay...

Linda

Anand Sankaran said:
Wow. I paid $133 for mine.

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Thomas Li · May 7, 2004

Anand Sankaran,

What is your 70-210 lens? Is it 4-5.6 or f4 constant. I really love your first duck shot. It really looks like shot by a 80-200 f2.8. If it is true, then I will forget 70-300ED and Sigma APO II.

Anand Sankaran said:
Just to confuse you folks )

I have only 3 lenses, the 70-210D, the 50mm / 1.8 D and the "kit"
lens with D70.

The 70-210D is my favorite lens

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Anand Sankaran · May 7, 2004

It is the 4-5.6 D lens.

If only I can afford the 80-200 / 2.8 lens.

Legend has it that the old 70-210 f/4-5.6 D lens, the 70-210 f/4 macro lens and the 75-300 AF lens all share the same optics as the 80-200/2.8 lens.

This lens is very sweet at f/8 even though I have managed to get decent flying birds (not great) at 210 mm wide open f/5.6.

The first duck shot was under ideal conditions - perfect sun light just before sunset, steady subject, f/8 and 166mm - probably the "sweetest" spot of this lens.

anand

Thomas Li said:
Anand Sankaran,
What is your 70-210 lens? Is it 4-5.6 or f4 constant. I really
love your first duck shot. It really looks like shot by a 80-200
f2.8. If it is true, then I will forget 70-300ED and Sigma APO II.

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Thomas Li · May 7, 2004

Anand Sankaran,
I am a bit confuse for 4-5.6 lens, is your 70-210 D is push-pull or screw.

Anand Sankaran said:
If only I can afford the 80-200 / 2.8 lens.

Legend has it that the old 70-210 f/4-5.6 D lens, the 70-210 f/4
macro lens and the 75-300 AF lens all share the same optics as the
80-200/2.8 lens.

This lens is very sweet at f/8 even though I have managed to get
decent flying birds (not great) at 210 mm wide open f/5.6.

The first duck shot was under ideal conditions - perfect sun light
just before sunset, steady subject, f/8 and 166mm - probably the
"sweetest" spot of this lens.

anand

Thomas Li said:

Anand Sankaran,
What is your 70-210 lens? Is it 4-5.6 or f4 constant. I really
love your first duck shot. It really looks like shot by a 80-200
f2.8. If it is true, then I will forget 70-300ED and Sigma APO II.

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Jack Stivers · May 8, 2004

Because you each have a D70, which has a faster focus system than the D100/S2, I'm wondering if it is the camera and not the lens.

I will try it on a D1X to see if it still hunts.

Thanks for the feedback.

Anyone with a D100 or S2 having focus problems with the 70-210 f4-5.6?

Thanks,

Jack

Jack Stivers · May 8, 2004

The Nikon 70-210 4-5.6 is a push-pull zoom.

Jack

Thomas Li said:
Anand Sankaran,
I am a bit confuse for 4-5.6 lens, is your 70-210 D is push-pull or
screw.

GeeJay · May 8, 2004

Jack Stivers said:
Because you each have a D70, which has a faster focus system than
the D100/S2, I'm wondering if it is the camera and not the lens.

I will try it on a D1X to see if it still hunts.

Thanks for the feedback.

Anyone with a D100 or S2 having focus problems with the 70-210 f4-5.6?

Thanks,

Jack

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Jack,
'rgazaway' (Ron) on this forum also has a push pull 70-210mm non D lense.

He has posted some pictures too. His seems to work fine and he hasn't mentioned 'hunting' when focusing. I think he uses a D70. Anyway,he does use the lense I use..non D. Good luck when you try the D1X. I took that picture of the green palms and willow at about 25-30 feet...so it must have done some good focusing. I plan to try that same shot again when the wind is not blowing and will use a monopod that arrived late yesterday ...eager to see if the focus is much better with the monopod. A good tripod is my next purchase when I figure out which to get for the D70 and some longer lenses (up to 300). Some good posts on forum about tripods...
Good luck with your lense on the D1X. Keep us posted.

GeeJay
Sunny Southwest Florida

Anand Sankaran · May 8, 2004

All the zoom lenses Nikon made in the 90s are push pull I hear.

Don't let that discourage you. I like the push pull better than ring now!

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Thomas Li · May 8, 2004

Anand Sankaran and Jack Stivers,

Thanks for your information. I got mine from my local photo shop. But I am afraid I cannot shot without tripod for this lens. Can you suggest any position that can hold a camera more stable for tele photo taking.

: )

Anand Sankaran said:
All the zoom lenses Nikon made in the 90s are push pull I hear.

Don't let that discourage you. I like the push pull better than
ring now!

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Thomas Li · May 8, 2004

Anand Sankaran,

Question, I checked mine at home and found the description on the lens is AF Nikkor 70-210mm 1:4-5.6 only without 'D'. Its outlook is exactly the same as f4-5.6 D. How can I check is it compatible with my D70?

Thomas Li said:
: )

Anand Sankaran said:

All the zoom lenses Nikon made in the 90s are push pull I hear.

Don't let that discourage you. I like the push pull better than
ring now!

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rgazaway · May 8, 2004

GeeJay said:
'rgazaway' (Ron) on this forum also has a push pull 70-210mm non
D lense.
He has posted some pictures too. His seems to work fine and he
hasn't mentioned 'hunting' when focusing. I think he uses a D70.
Anyway,he does use the lense I use..non D.

Yes, I'll explicitly confirm this. On either a D70 or an 8008 my
70-210 non-D has no hunting problem at any length used either
for ordinary or macro shots.

I think this lens has the potential to be listed as one of Nikon's 'classics'.

Here's one of them:

rgazaway

GeeJay said:
Jack Stivers said:

Because you each have a D70, which has a faster focus system than
the D100/S2, I'm wondering if it is the camera and not the lens.

I will try it on a D1X to see if it still hunts.

Thanks for the feedback.

Anyone with a D100 or S2 having focus problems with the 70-210 f4-5.6?

Thanks,

Jack

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Jack,
'rgazaway' (Ron) on this forum also has a push pull 70-210mm non
D lense.
He has posted some pictures too. His seems to work fine and he
hasn't mentioned 'hunting' when focusing. I think he uses a D70.
Anyway,he does use the lense I use..non D. Good luck when you try
the D1X. I took that picture of the green palms and willow at
about 25-30 feet...so it must have done some good focusing. I plan
to try that same shot again when the wind is not blowing and will
use a monopod that arrived late yesterday ...eager to see if the
focus is much better with the monopod. A good tripod is my next
purchase when I figure out which to get for the D70 and some longer
lenses (up to 300). Some good posts on forum about tripods...
Good luck with your lense on the D1X. Keep us posted.

GeeJay
Sunny Southwest Florida

GeeJay · May 8, 2004

Thomas Li said:
Thomas Li said:

: )

Anand Sankaran said:

All the zoom lenses Nikon made in the 90s are push pull I hear.

Don't let that discourage you. I like the push pull better than
ring now!

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Thomas,

That's exactly like mine and mine works fine on the D70..also works for several others on the post. mine is AF Nikkor 70-210mm 1:4-5.6 without the D...works great for me on D70!
GeeJay

rgazaway · May 8, 2004

Thomas Li said:
How can I check is it compatible with my D70?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=8658788

RonG.

Thomas Li said:
Thomas Li said:

: )

Anand Sankaran said:

All the zoom lenses Nikon made in the 90s are push pull I hear.

Don't let that discourage you. I like the push pull better than
ring now!

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Anand Sankaran · May 8, 2004

Without the "D" you miss the 3D color part of matrix metering and distance information passed back during flash.

http://bythom.com/lensacronyms.htm

You should be okay otherwise.

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Anand Sankaran · May 8, 2004

Rule of thumb:

For safe handholding, your shutter speed should at least be 1/focal length.

If your focal length is 210mm, then shoot 1/210 sec or faster. You achieve this by pushing the ISO up or by shooting wide open.

Other techniques, hmm, you can find in many tips like this in the internet

http://www.byohouse.com.au/biketours/tips.htm

I have shaky hands - these days I rarely take photos without my monopod or tripod.

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K.C.Chan · May 8, 2004

Anand,

Just wonder if the rule take into account of the Digital SLR 1.5x cropping factor?

E.g. if a 300mm prime lens is used, the shutter speed should be at least 1/300 sec or 1/300x1.5 (1/450 sec) ?

A begginner
KC

Anand Sankaran said:
Rule of thumb:

For safe handholding, your shutter speed should at least be 1/focal
length.

If your focal length is 210mm, then shoot 1/210 sec or faster. You
achieve this by pushing the ISO up or by shooting wide open.

Other techniques, hmm, you can find in many tips like this in the
internet

http://www.byohouse.com.au/biketours/tips.htm

I have shaky hands - these days I rarely take photos without my
monopod or tripod.

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Anand Sankaran · May 8, 2004

I thought so as much, some one mentioned it in the forums as well.

But Nikon D70's user manual does not consider the 1.5x factor.

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