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I have only just taken up photography and want to have a go at using the flash. I've read in the manual that you can use the SB800 to fire slave units remotely. Is there any way to fire a single SB800 when it is not attached to the hotshoe. I want to try some portrait shots with the flash to the side but only have the one unit. Can it be used in-sync with the built-in flash? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
I use the SB-800 as wireless fill flash. It's pretty cool. You can position it just about anywhere. The on camera flash acts as the trigger. You get no help from the on camera flash for exposure.. It's a trigger only. It looks like it helps, but the control pulses from the flash happen before the shutter opens.
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Charles S
 
Thanks for the reply Charles. Do I have to change the settings on the flash to slave for this to work? Also do I have to change any of the camera settings as they are currently set to the default.
 
runcers said:
Thanks for the reply Charles. Do I have to change the settings on
the flash to slave for this to work? Also do I have to change any
of the camera settings as they are currently set to the default.
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You have to do four things:
  • Set the flash to be a Remote Unit
  • Change the flash to receive on Channel 3
  • Set the camera Flash Mode (CSM 19) to be Commander Mode
  • Pop the camera flash up
That should get you started.

--Stephen Simpson
 
Stephen Simpson said:
  • Set the flash to be a Remote Unit
  • Change the flash to receive on Channel 3
  • Set the camera Flash Mode (CSM 19) to be Commander Mode
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And set the Commander Mode to TTL.
Stephen Simpson127975 said:
  • Pop the camera flash up
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All the normal flash warnings still apply (get out of Program exposure mode, dial in flash exposure compensation only on the body or the flash, not both, and so on).

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Thom Hogan
author, Nikon Field Guide & Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guides to the Nikon D100, D1, D1h, & D1x and Fujifilm S2
http://www.bythom.com
 
Seriously, I just got the SB800 yesterday from B&H and on the bus home, I could not really grasp what the heck the SB800 is capable. The manual needs some serious re-writing...And this coming from someone with a degree in photography, builds his own computers and does a whole bunch of other tech stuff. It's just amazing how vague the manual is.
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This is probably teh best description that I have seen so far

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D70/D70A7.HTM

regards
runcers said:
I have only just taken up photography and want to have a go at
using the flash. I've read in the manual that you can use the SB800
to fire slave units remotely. Is there any way to fire a single
SB800 when it is not attached to the hotshoe. I want to try some
portrait shots with the flash to the side but only have the one
unit. Can it be used in-sync with the built-in flash? Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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http://bradm.photopoints.com ,
http://www.usefilm.com/browse.php?mode=port&data=13628
 
Wow. Lots of info there. Thanks.
Brad Morris said:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D70/D70A7.HTM

regards
runcers said:
I have only just taken up photography and want to have a go at
using the flash. I've read in the manual that you can use the SB800
to fire slave units remotely. Is there any way to fire a single
SB800 when it is not attached to the hotshoe. I want to try some
portrait shots with the flash to the side but only have the one
unit. Can it be used in-sync with the built-in flash? Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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http://bradm.photopoints.com ,
http://www.usefilm.com/browse.php?mode=port&data=13628
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GT Hervey
The more I learn, the less I know.
 
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-6269-6292
gthervey said:
Brad Morris said:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D70/D70A7.HTM

regards
runcers said:
I have only just taken up photography and want to have a go at
using the flash. I've read in the manual that you can use the SB800
to fire slave units remotely. Is there any way to fire a single
SB800 when it is not attached to the hotshoe. I want to try some
portrait shots with the flash to the side but only have the one
unit. Can it be used in-sync with the built-in flash? Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Click to expand...
--
http://bradm.photopoints.com ,
http://www.usefilm.com/browse.php?mode=port&data=13628
Click to expand...
--
GT Hervey
The more I learn, the less I know.
Click to expand...
--
http://bradm.photopoints.com ,
http://www.usefilm.com/browse.php?mode=port&data=13628
 
runcers said:
I have only just taken up photography and want to have a go at
using the flash. I've read in the manual that you can use the SB800
to fire slave units remotely. Is there any way to fire a single
SB800 when it is not attached to the hotshoe. I want to try some
portrait shots with the flash to the side but only have the one
unit. Can it be used in-sync with the built-in flash? Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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There are two possiblities.

1) The iTTL remote mode, this is covered by another poster, just be aware that the buildin flash is NOT adding light to the expose.

2) Using SU4 mode. This requires that the build in flash is in manual mode and the SB800 is in SU4 mode (Beware it supports two SU4 modes, it has to be the one where it is possible to select power level).
This mode is very usefull if your have lots of time.
 
Thanks for all the info (and links) I set it up without a problem (the manual has gone in the bin). After a bit of playing with the settings I got some really unusual shots. Thanks again.
 
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