I take alot of pictures for my school yearbook, and we have a Digital Rebel, although the SD9 looks like a better choice becasue of the price point. Can I get a few suggestions on which one to buy, from anyone who owns or has used any of these cameras?
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Canon Digital Rebel or Sigma SD9?
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The Sigma is more expensive than the DR, so as far as price point is concerned, you're better off with the Canon.
Brett DiMichele
Senior Member
You can get an SD9 with two kit lenses for $200.00 LESS than the Drebel
at some very well respected etailers..
As to which is better it just depends on what forum you ask the question
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http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
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at some very well respected etailers..
As to which is better it just depends on what forum you ask the question
in!
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I am not a Professional but I did stay at Holiday Inn!
Please take a look at my gallery!
http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/brett_dimichele
Could you please post a link? Everywhere I look I see the SD9 in the $1000-$1099 range. The DR is less than that.
You can get an SD9 with two kit lenses for $200.00 LESS than the
Drebel
at some very well respected etailers..
As to which is better it just depends on what forum you ask the
question
in!
--
I am not a Professional but I did stay at Holiday Inn!
Please take a look at my gallery!
http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/brett_dimichele
Brett DiMichele
Senior Member
Go on ebay and look up Cameta Camera auctions.. Numerous people in
the Sigma forum have purchased the SD9 plus kit lenses from Cameta via
ebay and via phone and the amounts were in the $750.00 range if I
remember correctly. Sure at B&H and Adorama you will still pay last years
price.. But there are other reputable camera shops that don't ask full
retail and Cameta happens to be one of them.
I am not a Professional but I did stay at Holiday Inn!
Please take a look at my gallery!
http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/brett_dimichele
the Sigma forum have purchased the SD9 plus kit lenses from Cameta via
ebay and via phone and the amounts were in the $750.00 range if I
remember correctly. Sure at B&H and Adorama you will still pay last years
price.. But there are other reputable camera shops that don't ask full
retail and Cameta happens to be one of them.
--You can get an SD9 with two kit lenses for $200.00 LESS than the
Drebel
at some very well respected etailers..
As to which is better it just depends on what forum you ask the
question
in!
--
I am not a Professional but I did stay at Holiday Inn!
Please take a look at my gallery!
http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/brett_dimichele
I am not a Professional but I did stay at Holiday Inn!
Please take a look at my gallery!
http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/brett_dimichele
Greg Henry
Senior Member
Let's just assume for a second they are both the same price, or one or the other is slightly lower than the other.
The Canon Rebel would be a better choice, as it offers you the ability to take photos in RAW OR Jpg formats. The Sigmas only allow you to capture images in RAW mode. Every single photo you take will have to be run through the proprietary Sigma software that comes with the camera. You'll have to adjust various things to each image before resaving them as a Tiff or Jpg for use in whatever imaging program you use. In other words, while the Foveon sensor the Sigmas use is interesting and shows great promise for future cameras, it is not appropriate for "general consumer" use, including yearbooks.
If I'm reading your post correctly anyway, you say that you ALREADY own a Rebel, so why would you want to get rid of this relatively new model for an older Sigma digital, anyway?
Greg
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The Canon Rebel would be a better choice, as it offers you the ability to take photos in RAW OR Jpg formats. The Sigmas only allow you to capture images in RAW mode. Every single photo you take will have to be run through the proprietary Sigma software that comes with the camera. You'll have to adjust various things to each image before resaving them as a Tiff or Jpg for use in whatever imaging program you use. In other words, while the Foveon sensor the Sigmas use is interesting and shows great promise for future cameras, it is not appropriate for "general consumer" use, including yearbooks.
If I'm reading your post correctly anyway, you say that you ALREADY own a Rebel, so why would you want to get rid of this relatively new model for an older Sigma digital, anyway?
Greg
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$869 for body only at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000063YA4/ref%3Dase%5Ffatwalletcom/104-1929453-6731908
I agree with Greg, the SD9 is a great camera under certain situations but the DRebel would potentially be better suited for a wider range of coditions that you'll probably see shooting for a yearbook.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000063YA4/ref%3Dase%5Ffatwalletcom/104-1929453-6731908
I agree with Greg, the SD9 is a great camera under certain situations but the DRebel would potentially be better suited for a wider range of coditions that you'll probably see shooting for a yearbook.
My yearbook owns one, but I would like one for non school shooting. How about the Nikon D70?
You should get the *istD 
But seriously, yes, I'd definately give the D70 a look, there seems to be a lot of people who were going to buy the DRebel switch to the D70 instead. It's a tough choice, but you probably won't be sorry with any of the DSLRs, they are all pretty much winners in that sense.
But seriously, yes, I'd definately give the D70 a look, there seems to be a lot of people who were going to buy the DRebel switch to the D70 instead. It's a tough choice, but you probably won't be sorry with any of the DSLRs, they are all pretty much winners in that sense.
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Lin Evans
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Though Sigma's own RAW conversion software is very, very good - the format is also supported by Adobe RAW in PhotoShop CS.
Actually, I believe the SD9 might make an excellent yearbook camera since it operates very well in a controlled lighting environment.
As for which might be better - that really depends on what you need in a camera. The DR has appreciably better high ISO capabilities and the SD9 battery situation is sort of a pain in the back side, but the body build is better on the Sigma and image quality up to ISO 400 is very similar with the SD9 having better pixel level sharpness. Of course there is a much wider selection of lenses for the DR which is a major plus.
Lin
At those prices it really shows how Sigma could have taken over a large segment of the market if the SD9 had a Canon or Nikon mount. So much potential wasted.
You can get an SD9 with two kit lenses for $200.00 LESS than the
Drebel
at some very well respected etailers..
As to which is better it just depends on what forum you ask the
question
in!
--
I am not a Professional but I did stay at Holiday Inn!
Please take a look at my gallery!
http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/brett_dimichele
Yeti
Well-known member
I own the SD9 and I'm quit happy with it.
In particular I like the film like appearance of the images.
I don't see a problem in shooting raw as it gives me an opportunity to fix up the picture a bit before saving.
Go to the Sigma side and download SPP2 and some raw files and play around with it a bit to get an idea what you can do with it.
When you get one see that you get the DC lenses with it or get the body and a EX lens or two for your particular needs like the 50mm EX macro.
Here is a link to a thread about what results you can get with that set-up it was shot with an SD10 but the two cameras are quit similar.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1027&message=8653472
Feel free to have a look at my pbase side unfortunately I still have only the old DL lens kid so the pictures could be better given better glass.
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Greg Henry
Senior Member
I did forget that Sigma support is now in Photoshop, etc... but I'll still have to stick to my guns about it not being appropriate in a yearbook type of enviornment. Regardless of how many programs can convert the RAW images, it's still too much post-processing for each photo in a deadline type of environment such as a school yearbook situation.
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Pete Stavrakoglou
Veteran Member
It would be great if the Sigma SD cameras were available with Canon or Nikon mounts. A Minolta mount would have been a coup considering Minolta is still not in the DSLR game. Perhaps Sigma could not get a license agreement to use the other mounts and had to go solely with their own mount. It's not an issue with me even though I already owned an EOS Elan with two lenses when I bought my SD9. The price back in December was $ 810.00 with the two lens kit, cheaper than a Drebel with no lens. I'm no pro and barely an amateur so the lens quality of the kit lenses is fine although I have since bought the excellent Sigma 50mm EX lens.
I've experienced hit-or-miss quality with indoor flash shots. Some are great, some are rather noisy. Perhaps it's my skill - or lack of - that can be attributed to this. Outdoor shots are outstanding in good and fair light conditions. Sometimes you get a shot with the "Wow!" factor which is a 3-d effect. That siad, you can't go wrong with the DRebel either, or the D70 for that matter.
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Lin Evans
Guest
Hi Greg,
If you are using a controlled environment for the photo capture - i.e., a studio or on location "set" where the conditions don't vary, you simply make whichever corrections are necessary for optimum image quality on the first image and apply these same changes through the batch processing to all images as they are being converted.
This is a totally automated process which takes a little more time over the in-camera RAW to jpg of course, but it's not really a major issue if quality of image is really important. I agree that not having a jpg mode is an inconvenience, but there are plenty of photographers who have found the SD10 appropriate for similar use (same with SD9). I suppose it's a personal preference issue.
Best regards,
Lin
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Gavin McKinlay38537
Leading Member
Here
http://www.willoughbys.com/shop/Product.asp?ProdTypeList=1000&Sku=2050SSD9
--You can get an SD9 with two kit lenses for $200.00 LESS than the
Drebel
at some very well respected etailers..
As to which is better it just depends on what forum you ask the
question
in!
--
I am not a Professional but I did stay at Holiday Inn!
Please take a look at my gallery!
http://www.westol.com/~brettd/sd10/gallery/
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/brett_dimichele
Regards,
Gavin
Sigma SD-9,Canon Pro90IS, B-300 Canon Pro 70
The number one problem with the Sigma is that it's limited. Remember that with a DSLR you're not just buying a camera, you're buying into a system.
Only Sigma makes lenses for it. With Canon, you have lenses from Canon, Tokina, Tamron, AND Sigma, not to mention a few other Cosina-renames, and a couple of different price lines from each maker. Moreover, you've got a vibrant market of used Canon EOS lenses.
With Sigma you have one current film camera and one current digital camera--and no real guarantee that there will be any more. Sigma could discontinue camera manufacturing at any moment. With Canon, you already have a full line of both digital and film cameras, and not much chance that they're going out of the business any time soon.
With Sigma, you have to go with their RAW software or get expensive Photoshop. With Canon, you've got the Canon RAW software, you've got C1 and a couple of others, and you've got Photoshop WITH A 50 PERCENT DISCOUNT AS A CANON CAMERA OWNER through 2005. You can also output JPEG at various levels as other options.
Finally, something I've learned to value highly over the years as a factor as important as any other: You have much more user and expert support with Canon. More forums, more activity, more reviews, more tests, more comparisons, more sources of information and advice.
With no more (and probably less) money spent for at least as good quality, if not better (especially considering the possibility of better lenses).
This is like a slam-dunk. If the Sigma were US$600, it would be a dilemma.
RDKirk
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Only Sigma makes lenses for it. With Canon, you have lenses from Canon, Tokina, Tamron, AND Sigma, not to mention a few other Cosina-renames, and a couple of different price lines from each maker. Moreover, you've got a vibrant market of used Canon EOS lenses.
With Sigma you have one current film camera and one current digital camera--and no real guarantee that there will be any more. Sigma could discontinue camera manufacturing at any moment. With Canon, you already have a full line of both digital and film cameras, and not much chance that they're going out of the business any time soon.
With Sigma, you have to go with their RAW software or get expensive Photoshop. With Canon, you've got the Canon RAW software, you've got C1 and a couple of others, and you've got Photoshop WITH A 50 PERCENT DISCOUNT AS A CANON CAMERA OWNER through 2005. You can also output JPEG at various levels as other options.
Finally, something I've learned to value highly over the years as a factor as important as any other: You have much more user and expert support with Canon. More forums, more activity, more reviews, more tests, more comparisons, more sources of information and advice.
With no more (and probably less) money spent for at least as good quality, if not better (especially considering the possibility of better lenses).
This is like a slam-dunk. If the Sigma were US$600, it would be a dilemma.
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Matt K134792
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I did a search, and found nothing on this, could you please advise as to where I might get some info on this.
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