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you dont get it. Its not the gear, but what you do with it. No more, no less.

Give a pro either camera, and the results will be fine. Give an amature either camera and results will be variable.

You just dont have the big idea. Keep trying.
Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
Almost daily I go back and forth between this forum and the Canon
10D forum, and the pics in the Canon forum always look clearer,
sharper, better focus, etc.
So which is it, Canon takes a better picture, or all the people in
that forum are more skilled?? I own neither, still trying to
decide. I've been hoping that the D70 would be the one based on
its features and price, but the picture quality just ain't there
IMHO. Go look for yourselves and compare the pics..
Yeah, flame away and call me a troll, whatever, just posting what I
continually observe..
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Just a stupid question: Do you use both cameras in the same color space? The colors from the 10D looks more like aRGB (more bland, but also more latitude) and the D70 looks very sRGB. And other settings? No other color tweaking or settings? Just curious.

At least there's no problem with 'dull and lifeless' on your D70, lol!

Thomas.
McErono said:
there it is again...

I really don't care about other people's cameras or what people
heard about a camera... these are mine and on standart these are
the results. I don't heard something but shot those pics myself...
of course the results are inconsistent: it's called metering! Nikon
3d-matrix vs. Canon evaluative metering. I'm sure if that flower
had another color the result would have been not the same... red
isn't the D70's favourite color...

What was interessting too was the shutterspeed: most of the time
the canon was faster at f8 iso200 but sometimes the nikon was
faster... I think canon's iso 200 is kind of higher compared to
nikon's.

Again, I own both, and paid for both and I don't want to proof that
either camera is better or worse... just different! Both are great
cameras (mine are without any focus issues if I do the testing in a
decent way)
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In this comparison 10D gives you better images (esp. colors) in default and auto mode than D70 does. The red in flower shot with D70 was over saturated (over exposed?) and turned yellow.

However, how about a 2nd round of test? Adjust 10D for your favorite setting, and do the same for D70. But for D70 may I suggest that you reduce the sharpening and contrast (tone comp.) in its "custom" menu under Optimize Images?

I do feel the default contrast and auto sharpening too strong for my taste. I also believe the weaker AA filter in D70 requires less sharpening. As a result I now shoot with both sharpening and contrast turned down to -2 and like what I get.

Photobug
McErono said:
I own both... I love both... but I prefer one of them. Guess which...

(And come on people, don't come up with "but this isn't credible
because..." "you should have...." These are my own test shots! Both
at Iso200, everything standart, A Mode, F8, Kitlens vs. 28-105 USM
Canon, all right out of the box without USM nothing... just croped
or resized!)

Look at the metering... what a difference!
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If you are using the kit lens on D70, you'll have to turn down WB a bit for the proper, warmer colors. Through tests I found the kits lens had green cast. I not only use 81B skylight filter on it, but also set auto or manual WB to -1 (this is also used for all other lens).

This explains why the yellow car and wheel show muted yellow and green cast.

BTW, when I owned 300D, I found it had a tendency to be too warm and yellowish (with auto WB). But this did make yellow looked nice.
Photobug said:
However, how about a 2nd round of test? Adjust 10D for your
favorite setting, and do the same for D70. But for D70 may I
suggest that you reduce the sharpening and contrast (tone comp.) in
its "custom" menu under Optimize Images?

I do feel the default contrast and auto sharpening too strong for
my taste. I also believe the weaker AA filter in D70 requires less
sharpening. As a result I now shoot with both sharpening and
contrast turned down to -2 and like what I get.

Photobug
McErono said:
I own both... I love both... but I prefer one of them. Guess which...

(And come on people, don't come up with "but this isn't credible
because..." "you should have...." These are my own test shots! Both
at Iso200, everything standart, A Mode, F8, Kitlens vs. 28-105 USM
Canon, all right out of the box without USM nothing... just croped
or resized!)

Look at the metering... what a difference!
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