ACR 2.2 - what are the advantages over 2.1?

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Has anyone used ACR 2.2 to open DSLR/n or 14n raw files. I am using 2.1 and it works very well. Just wondering what they are fixing/improving.

Thanks

Ken Wilson
 
Has anyone used ACR 2.2 to open DSLR/n or 14n raw files. I am
using 2.1 and it works very well. Just wondering what they are
fixing/improving.

Thanks

Ken Wilson
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Ken,

I have downloaded the file and from what I can tell there is now supportfor the nx as well which is what I currently have after the upgrade. I haven't used it enough to tell the difference from the 14n camera raw support and to tell the truth I didn't open a file from the nx on v. 2.1 prior, so I'm at a loss to compare the two!
Thanks
Frank
 
Kodak isn't telling us 2.2 is an improvement. It only supports more cameras.

My main complaint about 2.1 and 2.2 is that it opens RAW files as sRGB, thus showing the wrong colors which now only can appear after assigning to sRGB in PS.
Has anyone used ACR 2.2 to open DSLR/n or 14n raw files. I am
using 2.1 and it works very well. Just wondering what they are
fixing/improving.

Thanks

Ken Wilson
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Ken,
I have downloaded the file and from what I can tell there is now
supportfor the nx as well which is what I currently have after the
upgrade. I haven't used it enough to tell the difference from the
14n camera raw support and to tell the truth I didn't open a file
from the nx on v. 2.1 prior, so I'm at a loss to compare the two!
Thanks
Frank
 
Kodak isn't telling us 2.2 is an improvement. It only supports more
cameras.
My main complaint about 2.1 and 2.2 is that it opens RAW files as
sRGB, thus showing the wrong colors which now only can appear after
assigning to sRGB in PS.
Can't you change the color space it opens in to on the lower left in ACR? I open mine into adobe rgb wth no issues.

Using 2.2 with CS.

I used 2.1 with the 14nx for a dew days, and now 2.2. No noticeable difference. The color may be a touch more accurate when camera default is selected though.

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Rob
 
Kodak isn't telling us 2.2 is an improvement. It only supports more
cameras.
It's not a Kodak product, it's an Adobe product.
My main complaint about 2.1 and 2.2 is that it opens RAW files as
sRGB, thus showing the wrong colors which now only can appear after
assigning to sRGB in PS.
You can choose any of four different color spaces in the Camera Raw interface into which you can open the raw data from the camera sensor. These include sRGB, Adobe RGB, ColorMatch RGB and ProPhoto RGB.

S.Stefan Jonsson
http://homepage.mac.com/sigurdurjonsson
 
No Rob, it doesn't matter at all whatever I choose, it all comes out as sRGB. If I type Alt I M P to assign the profile, it always says sRGB.
Kodak isn't telling us 2.2 is an improvement. It only supports more
cameras.
My main complaint about 2.1 and 2.2 is that it opens RAW files as
sRGB, thus showing the wrong colors which now only can appear after
assigning to sRGB in PS.
Can't you change the color space it opens in to on the lower left
in ACR? I open mine into adobe rgb wth no issues.

Using 2.2 with CS.
I used 2.1 with the 14nx for a dew days, and now 2.2. No noticeable
difference. The color may be a touch more accurate when camera
default is selected though.

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Rob
 
Yeah, ofcourse you are right, slip of the mind. (Not Kodak but Adobe)

Obviously I can choose the profile, but it doesn't change a thing in my computer. What I mean also is that the picture in my RAW convertor looks like a profile mismatch: since ARC opens the genuine RAW file (which is an sRGB) the picture looks like an sRGB file in an AdobeRGB working space. In other words: if I import a NEF form my Nikon Capture AdobeRGB workingspace into PS CS, all looks good. If I open the same NEF in ARC 2.2, it looks mismatched and I have to assign the file to sRGB to get the exact same colors as the NEF that was imported. Also, my DCR files always look right only after assigning them to sRGB first, otherwise it is too red and off. Have I set a wrong setting somewhere in my computer?
Thanks,
Bart
Kodak isn't telling us 2.2 is an improvement. It only supports more
cameras.
It's not a Kodak product, it's an Adobe product.
My main complaint about 2.1 and 2.2 is that it opens RAW files as
sRGB, thus showing the wrong colors which now only can appear after
assigning to sRGB in PS.
You can choose any of four different color spaces in the Camera Raw
interface into which you can open the raw data from the camera
sensor. These include sRGB, Adobe RGB, ColorMatch RGB and ProPhoto
RGB.

S.Stefan Jonsson
http://homepage.mac.com/sigurdurjonsson
 
After some more testing and checking and some guidance of Alexander Tufte, I guess I was sort of mismatching things myself. ARC's colors aren't that bad. A bit reddish to my taste, but easily correctable.
 
RAW files are not sRGB. You get a color space once you convert the raw image into one.

It's also ACR, not ARC. Don't understand why that's so hard for so many people.
Kodak isn't telling us 2.2 is an improvement. It only supports more
cameras.
It's not a Kodak product, it's an Adobe product.
My main complaint about 2.1 and 2.2 is that it opens RAW files as
sRGB, thus showing the wrong colors which now only can appear after
assigning to sRGB in PS.
You can choose any of four different color spaces in the Camera Raw
interface into which you can open the raw data from the camera
sensor. These include sRGB, Adobe RGB, ColorMatch RGB and ProPhoto
RGB.

S.Stefan Jonsson
http://homepage.mac.com/sigurdurjonsson
 
2.2 has official support meaning that the color profiling has been finalized for the camera. When 2.1 came out and the SLR/n was announced, there were comments about the final color profiles for the new sensor not being quite complete in 2.1.
Has anyone used ACR 2.2 to open DSLR/n or 14n raw files. I am
using 2.1 and it works very well. Just wondering what they are
fixing/improving.

Thanks

Ken Wilson
 

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