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EX-P600 First Impressions
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Sorry about that, My daughter just hit the delete button somehow and so I lost that entire post,
Thanks Barry for your feedback. I spoke with casio again today and they told me not to return the camera, that I indeed needed to just fiddle, so I did some fiddling today with WB and filters-I had already been using the shade filter, so I practied using the red and purple. Got better results but still not as vibrant as I hoped. So I am posting some pics, At this point I am thinking of waiting for the W1 as I hated the pop up flash on the V1 (though I disliked the color too) and the bad battery life, or exchanging this casio thouh I doubt that will solve the problem, waiting for the nikon 5200 or just getting a canon and dealing with the lack of speed. The red eye on the casio is also bad, though more tolerable than the lack of color. The battery life is astoundingly good as is the speed.
Alll of these are taken with high saturation and manual AF, I am not a photgropher, just a long ago art major and mom trying to get a good picture of my fast child!
http://www.tomatocaper.com/images/casio.html
Here are some sony V1 pics, to be fair, I took all of these with low flash as I though the flash was too blue, but they ened up too dark, I;ve thrown in a couple of canons as well!This was the problem I was having with red and sony.
http://www.tomatocaper.com/images/sonyV1.html
Thanks for looking!
Thanks Barry for your feedback. I spoke with casio again today and they told me not to return the camera, that I indeed needed to just fiddle, so I did some fiddling today with WB and filters-I had already been using the shade filter, so I practied using the red and purple. Got better results but still not as vibrant as I hoped. So I am posting some pics, At this point I am thinking of waiting for the W1 as I hated the pop up flash on the V1 (though I disliked the color too) and the bad battery life, or exchanging this casio thouh I doubt that will solve the problem, waiting for the nikon 5200 or just getting a canon and dealing with the lack of speed. The red eye on the casio is also bad, though more tolerable than the lack of color. The battery life is astoundingly good as is the speed.
Alll of these are taken with high saturation and manual AF, I am not a photgropher, just a long ago art major and mom trying to get a good picture of my fast child!
http://www.tomatocaper.com/images/casio.html
Here are some sony V1 pics, to be fair, I took all of these with low flash as I though the flash was too blue, but they ened up too dark, I;ve thrown in a couple of canons as well!This was the problem I was having with red and sony.
http://www.tomatocaper.com/images/sonyV1.html
Thanks for looking!
Barry Kernerman
Senior Member
Hi Caroline,
I think it is definitely a WB problem and suggest that you try using the Manual WB instead of their filters and other WB settings - especially for indoor shooting. It's easy to do, and really makes a difference.
The child's really cute though!
As for the red-eye. They all cause red-eye because the flash is always so close to the lens. There's not much you can do about that - except fix them after in an image editor.
Barry
I think it is definitely a WB problem and suggest that you try using the Manual WB instead of their filters and other WB settings - especially for indoor shooting. It's easy to do, and really makes a difference.
The child's really cute though!
As for the red-eye. They all cause red-eye because the flash is always so close to the lens. There's not much you can do about that - except fix them after in an image editor.
Barry
Barry, Thanks!
How do I do that, the Manual WB looks BLUE when I use it, I mean, it is terrible! Here is a picture:
http://www.tomatocaper.com/images/casio 094.html;
http://www.tomatocaper.com/images/casio 106.html;
The Casio gut told me to shoot a piece of white papar to set it, but it still looks blue.
How do I do that, the Manual WB looks BLUE when I use it, I mean, it is terrible! Here is a picture:
http://www.tomatocaper.com/images/casio 094.html;
http://www.tomatocaper.com/images/casio 106.html;
The Casio gut told me to shoot a piece of white papar to set it, but it still looks blue.
fGene
Well-known member
Barry,
Not that I want to argue your points, they are well laid out and have merit, I just feel that many of them fall into the category of highly subjective opinions. For example, while you critisize P600 user interface, I can't help but praise it and I actually feel it's the most comfortable interface on all digital cameras I ever laid my hands on. I cannot compare it with Pentax 550, but only when I got this Casio I began to realize what an ergonomical nightmare Canon s40 (one that I previously owned) was. I also know that many people are very happy with Canon s30-s50 line and the fact that Canon kept the same body for several generations of cameras speaks for itself.
I think there are so many "slight" differences between Pentax 550 and Casio P600, that it might be a bit unfair to compare them at all. It seems to me these two cameras are aimed at similar, yet distinctively different target groups. In 550, we have great tele- and macro- modes, yet wide mode is not-so-great; maximum shutter time is limited to 15 seconds; no TIFF or RAW (I am looking at the specs chart posted at dpreview); "only" 5 megapixels, no ability to use external mount-on lenses or flash, but great overal build quality and "fair" price; while P600 posesses highly innovative EX mode that people can either love or hate, lens that exibits vignetting and distortion but is also quite sharp and fast, battery life is unbeleivable, but tripod mount is not perfectly centered, LCD is large and low power but has only 115K pixels and the brightness level's fixed etc. etc.
My point is, most people who can make an educated choice between advanced compact cameras (which implies they had some experience with cameras in the past), will most likely start their "homework" with feature set comparison; after that, their decision is generally shaped and depends only on price/availability/support, image quality comparison tests and field tests. All these latter "variables" are dependant on subjective, "biased" opinion of particular person (even image quality can be a matter of taste, in a way). I just feel, that saying to such people things like "some options are useful, some are not" means nothing to them until they actually try these options themselves. Maybe these are the very options they were dreaming about
I must confess that I really like my EX-P600 (maybe as much as you like your Pentax 550 or even more), and feel an urge to "defend" it, so my opinion is probably very biased
Regards,
Gene
OOPS, I fixed the link
Barry Kernerman
Senior Member
Caroline,
Check the procedure in the user manual (page 82) choosing MANUAL WHITE BALANCE. Point the camera at a white sheet of paper (hold it close enough so the paper fills your LCD) and press SET in the light you are shooting and press the shutter button. If it's like my A1 you may hear the shutter open and close (no picture taken though). Then focus and take the picture. The WB setting should remain at that Manual Setting until you turn the power off or re-do it. So if you move to different light you should reset the Manual WB. It's usually not so necessary in good outdoor light, but sometimes you might want to do it there also. It should make the WB very natural - and without yellow or blue casts. If you still get a blue cast then you are probably doing it incorrectly. In that case, maybe you are not filling the screen with the white paper.
Barry
Check the procedure in the user manual (page 82) choosing MANUAL WHITE BALANCE. Point the camera at a white sheet of paper (hold it close enough so the paper fills your LCD) and press SET in the light you are shooting and press the shutter button. If it's like my A1 you may hear the shutter open and close (no picture taken though). Then focus and take the picture. The WB setting should remain at that Manual Setting until you turn the power off or re-do it. So if you move to different light you should reset the Manual WB. It's usually not so necessary in good outdoor light, but sometimes you might want to do it there also. It should make the WB very natural - and without yellow or blue casts. If you still get a blue cast then you are probably doing it incorrectly. In that case, maybe you are not filling the screen with the white paper.
Barry
Barry Kernerman
Senior Member
Looks to me as though the white paper did not fill the LCD screen and it took a reading from the surrounding areas as well - making it inaccurate. It should not do that.
One trick that might work is holding the semi-translucent white lid from a Pringles can and hold it in front of the lens when you do the proceedure, in place of a sheet of white paper.
Barry
One trick that might work is holding the semi-translucent white lid from a Pringles can and hold it in front of the lens when you do the proceedure, in place of a sheet of white paper.
Barry
Barry Kernerman
Senior Member
fGene,
Of course it's a very subjective thing, and I made that clear in what I wrote. Its interface may be great for you, but not for me. It's innovative that's for sure! However that does not mean it's for everybody.
But I found it to be too busy and just a strange way to tell what your settings are. My A1 is the most complex camera out there, and would frighten most people off after just counting the 20 or so buttons on the outside of it's case - but to me, and every other A1 owner, it's simplicity in itself. I can see all of my settings, and make any adjustemts without even moving my eye from the viewfinder. Everything come to hand - and to eye, in an amazingly intelligently designed interface.
I just feel that Casio has made what is basically a good and straightforward, logical interface into a busy complex screen which is more for show, than practicality. On the other hand, one does not have to use it - and I wouldn't. The only problem is that if you want to use the live Histogram, you must use it.
The 550 is not an ergonomical nightmare - I can assure you. You say it has "only" 5 megapixels and so it cannot be compared, but I can assure you it's images are at least equal to those from the P600 - and with just as much detail. That's because it has a superior lens - and a longer one at that. True, it doesn't take add-on lens adapters. But it's lens is longer to begin with - I believe about 187mm. That's enough for something that fits in a shirt pocket, and especially when you don't want to carry around extra equipment with you. If I had to do that I would carry around my A1 - which I don't.
But I did say that one should only choose the camera that's best for them, and if you are happy with the Casio and really like it's interface then that's the camera you should have. I like the camera as well, but I'm not sure it's for me personally, and I've given the reasons why I feel that way.
I don't know about you, but for me it would be a second camera - as I just sold my 550 today. My A1 is in a different league entirely. I don't carry it around with me, and I wouldn't compare either the Casio or Pentax to it. As I said before, pixel numbers aren't everything, and having a camera with so much capability only makes me be more demanding when choosing a second camera. That doesn't mean the Casio is a bad camera. I still might end up buying one. But it does have certain weaknesses that I cannot overlook. I've tried to be as open-minded as possible when evaluating it, and that evaluation is based upon MY needs - not necessarily yours.
Perhaps a RAW mode (that's not hidden) on the Casio would make me lean more to that camera, because that would solve any WB problems - an obvious weak point in the camera - because I usually shoot in RAW mode with my A1, and it's RAW images are amazingly detailed - containing more information and a wider dynamic range than I saw from the Casio. I would rather be able to control settings afterward by myself anyway, rather then letting the camera do it for me. So that feature might alone have sold me on the camera already.
But look, the Casio is still one hell of a sweet camera, and most people who buy one will love it. As for me, I am still torn 2 ways about it, but as I said I am leaning away from it right now.
Choosing a camera is a very personal thing, and people should act upon their own needs, not mine or anyone else's. I only laid out what I honestly saw as both it's strengths and weaknesses - FOR ME! Not for you or anyone else.
Have lots of fun with your camera. You're obviously happy with it, and so you should be. If I were you I would defend it as well.
Barry
Of course it's a very subjective thing, and I made that clear in what I wrote. Its interface may be great for you, but not for me. It's innovative that's for sure! However that does not mean it's for everybody.
But I found it to be too busy and just a strange way to tell what your settings are. My A1 is the most complex camera out there, and would frighten most people off after just counting the 20 or so buttons on the outside of it's case - but to me, and every other A1 owner, it's simplicity in itself. I can see all of my settings, and make any adjustemts without even moving my eye from the viewfinder. Everything come to hand - and to eye, in an amazingly intelligently designed interface.
I just feel that Casio has made what is basically a good and straightforward, logical interface into a busy complex screen which is more for show, than practicality. On the other hand, one does not have to use it - and I wouldn't. The only problem is that if you want to use the live Histogram, you must use it.
The 550 is not an ergonomical nightmare - I can assure you. You say it has "only" 5 megapixels and so it cannot be compared, but I can assure you it's images are at least equal to those from the P600 - and with just as much detail. That's because it has a superior lens - and a longer one at that. True, it doesn't take add-on lens adapters. But it's lens is longer to begin with - I believe about 187mm. That's enough for something that fits in a shirt pocket, and especially when you don't want to carry around extra equipment with you. If I had to do that I would carry around my A1 - which I don't.
But I did say that one should only choose the camera that's best for them, and if you are happy with the Casio and really like it's interface then that's the camera you should have. I like the camera as well, but I'm not sure it's for me personally, and I've given the reasons why I feel that way.
I don't know about you, but for me it would be a second camera - as I just sold my 550 today. My A1 is in a different league entirely. I don't carry it around with me, and I wouldn't compare either the Casio or Pentax to it. As I said before, pixel numbers aren't everything, and having a camera with so much capability only makes me be more demanding when choosing a second camera. That doesn't mean the Casio is a bad camera. I still might end up buying one. But it does have certain weaknesses that I cannot overlook. I've tried to be as open-minded as possible when evaluating it, and that evaluation is based upon MY needs - not necessarily yours.
Perhaps a RAW mode (that's not hidden) on the Casio would make me lean more to that camera, because that would solve any WB problems - an obvious weak point in the camera - because I usually shoot in RAW mode with my A1, and it's RAW images are amazingly detailed - containing more information and a wider dynamic range than I saw from the Casio. I would rather be able to control settings afterward by myself anyway, rather then letting the camera do it for me. So that feature might alone have sold me on the camera already.
But look, the Casio is still one hell of a sweet camera, and most people who buy one will love it. As for me, I am still torn 2 ways about it, but as I said I am leaning away from it right now.
Choosing a camera is a very personal thing, and people should act upon their own needs, not mine or anyone else's. I only laid out what I honestly saw as both it's strengths and weaknesses - FOR ME! Not for you or anyone else.
Have lots of fun with your camera. You're obviously happy with it, and so you should be. If I were you I would defend it as well.
Barry
I've had to cut some of your message because I was so long-winded - Sorry.
My point is, most people who can make an educated choice between
advanced compact cameras (which implies they had some experience
with cameras in the past), will most likely start their "homework"
with feature set comparison; after that, their decision is
generally shaped and depends only on price/availability/support,
image quality comparison tests and field tests. All these latter
"variables" are dependant on subjective, "biased" opinion of
particular person (even image quality can be a matter of taste, in
a way). I just feel, that saying to such people things like "some
options are useful, some are not" means nothing to them until they
actually try these options themselves. Maybe these are the very
options they were dreaming about
I must confess that I really like my EX-P600 (maybe as much as you
like your Pentax 550 or even more), and feel an urge to "defend"
it, so my opinion is probably very biased
Regards,
Gene
HI Barry, I think I have set it to the best of my abilities after reading the manual's instructions...I am defintely getting the blue, I took a recording of white paper in the room I am in, press set, and returned to cameral mode...and proceed to take pictures, and they are ALL blue. UGH! I am baffled! I know the casio CSR suggested that it was a matter of preference, but come on! I know no one prefers pictures that blue. I guess it is going back to the store.
Hi caroline,
I believe that when you setting the manual WB, the WB setting had been affected by the lamp in your room which I believe to be yellow or in warm colour. Therefore, when you used flash, the picture will become blue. You can try to used the sunlight WB to take the flash photo. I believe it may be better.
rronald
I believe that when you setting the manual WB, the WB setting had been affected by the lamp in your room which I believe to be yellow or in warm colour. Therefore, when you used flash, the picture will become blue. You can try to used the sunlight WB to take the flash photo. I believe it may be better.
rronald
Hi Rronald, I am confused, as I thought I was supposed to set the WB in the room in which I was taking the picture, so that I actually got a color temperature reading for the room, is that not so?
fGene
Well-known member
Thanks, Barry!
I am also sorry for not quoting your message entirely, but here is just few examples of misunderstaning... or so I feel... It looks like I almost managed to get my point accross (which is quite an accomlishement for me, considering my English), but then, there are some paragraphs I just can't resist to comment sorry for bringing this up again.
So, you may be right 100%, and you probably are, but still, I cannot be assured until I try That's my point.
I never said 6mp was better than 5mp, it could well be vise versa, but until i actually COMPARE several pairs of the images made under different shooting conditions (such "paired" images are very hard to come by, BTW), judging them by my own criteria, I won't be able to make an opinion. Unless the difference in quality is EXTREMELY obvious (which is not a case with 550 and P600, I beleive).
For example - people are often complaining about white balance, "dull" colors etc. I couldn't care less about precise WB, because I always use PS to finalize images. What I need is a good dynamic range/brightness distribution per channel. Same applies, to some extent, to vignetting, certain types of distortion, even noise. Detail level also cannot be determined easily. Some images seem to have comparable detail level at first glance, but after some sharpening one shows even more detail, while the other one just more noise or other artifacts. I'd probably have hard time trying to explain what exactly I am looking for while examining the image quality, but when I see it, I see it. And I am sure you have your own criteria, as anyone else with enough experience in DI has, too.
I think 550 doesn't have a superior lens, it has a different lens. It has more tele- and more macro-, but less wide. 90% of shots i do are made at full wide, for better framing (I wish I had more of it). When I want tele, P600 gives me more than I need. To me, wide is more important than tele and macro put together. To you, probably, otherwise. We are not even touching lens speed here.
I guess, when you are talking about superiority and weaknesses, I should always interprete it as "superiority and weaknesses according to your own criteria", and not just superiority and weakneses in general... That would make sense... Then I probably don't have to "defend" P600 at all. Also a matter of personal preferences - I like to avoid such terms as much as possible
Regards,
Gene
I am also sorry for not quoting your message entirely, but here is just few examples of misunderstaning... or so I feel... It looks like I almost managed to get my point accross (which is quite an accomlishement for me, considering my English), but then, there are some paragraphs I just can't resist to comment
sorry for bringing this up again.Many people LOVE s30-50 interface and just don't understand what's so bad about it. For me - in a word - it was joystick. In almost two years, I couldn't learn how to use it properly. But, when I gave the camera to my friend, he said afterwards that joystick was really comfortable, and he didn't have any trouble with it whatsoever.
So, you may be right 100%, and you probably are, but still, I cannot be assured until I try
That's my point.Once again, we are exchanging subjective opinions
I never said 6mp was better than 5mp, it could well be vise versa, but until i actually COMPARE several pairs of the images made under different shooting conditions (such "paired" images are very hard to come by, BTW), judging them by my own criteria, I won't be able to make an opinion. Unless the difference in quality is EXTREMELY obvious (which is not a case with 550 and P600, I beleive).For example - people are often complaining about white balance, "dull" colors etc. I couldn't care less about precise WB, because I always use PS to finalize images. What I need is a good dynamic range/brightness distribution per channel. Same applies, to some extent, to vignetting, certain types of distortion, even noise. Detail level also cannot be determined easily. Some images seem to have comparable detail level at first glance, but after some sharpening one shows even more detail, while the other one just more noise or other artifacts. I'd probably have hard time trying to explain what exactly I am looking for while examining the image quality, but when I see it, I see it. And I am sure you have your own criteria, as anyone else with enough experience in DI has, too.
Once again, subjective opinion
I think 550 doesn't have a superior lens, it has a different lens. It has more tele- and more macro-, but less wide. 90% of shots i do are made at full wide, for better framing (I wish I had more of it). When I want tele, P600 gives me more than I need. To me, wide is more important than tele and macro put together. To you, probably, otherwise. We are not even touching lens speed here.Exactly! Same here
I guess, when you are talking about superiority and weaknesses, I should always interprete it as "superiority and weaknesses according to your own criteria", and not just superiority and weakneses in general... That would make sense... Then I probably don't have to "defend" P600 at all. Also a matter of personal preferences - I like to avoid such terms as much as possible I don't doubt that Minolta A1 is better overall in terms of image quality, but it's not a compact camera. And it probably comes with "official" RAW converter. As for P600's RAW files decoding by dcraw (I beleive that's the only program that supports them yet), I also have issues with image quality it produces. I guess the decoding algorithm is not quite mature yet. In fact now I am trying to convert these RAWs using linear 16-bit grayscale output with PS and its wide collection of filters. It produces somewhat better images than dcraw, but real work has just began... It's very interesting, by the way.
Regards,
Gene
Chuck A
Senior Member
That is correct. Except, the problem is that if you are using flash its' color temp is much bluer than the light in the room. Hence the flash is the light that should be balanced not the room light.
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Chuck
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Caroline,
Yes, Chuck's said was correct. Flash has a color temperture same as sunlight. Have you try?
Ronald
Yes, Chuck's said was correct. Flash has a color temperture same as sunlight. Have you try?
Ronald
That is correct. Except, the problem is that if you are using flash
its' color temp is much bluer than the light in the room. Hence the
flash is the light that should be balanced not the room light.
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Thanks & God Bless,
Chuck
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'Our actions are the demonstration of our character'
Barry Kernerman
Senior Member
Hi Gene,
I read your interesting comments, and your English is excellent, so don't worry. I believe we do not disagree at all, but are just saying the same things in a slightly different way. But I am certainly not attacking the camera. If I was, I would have been gone 2 days ago.
I believe that. It's not like comparing a 3mp with a 5 mp. The difference in the number of pixels is small between 5 and 6mp. But it is still mostly personal and subjective. Once you move past Phil's "tests", everything else is subjective in real-world shooting.
About the lenses we do disagee. I personally rarely use a wide angle - even with the A1 which has 28mm, and I find the Pentax lens superior after examining results in Photoshop. Otherwise one could not possible tell. A longer lens in a pocket camera is more useful to me than a wider angle.
Because Casio uses a Canon lens does not mean it is a high quality one. It certainly is quite good, but I'll still stick with my opinion of the Pentax lens which I feel is better. The Pentax zoom is unquestionably better. That is the biggest failing of the P600 design. And for ME personally Tele and Macro are very important.
That said, I am still interested in possibly buying a P600, although I have some questions about it. I am not one to wait for Phil's reviews before buying any camera, and I will base my decision on my own needs - and that's what everyone else should as well.
Regards,
Barry
I've had to cut parts here and some of yours as well.
I read your interesting comments, and your English is excellent, so don't worry. I believe we do not disagree at all, but are just saying the same things in a slightly different way. But I am certainly not attacking the camera. If I was, I would have been gone 2 days ago.
If most people did not like the S50 interface they would not have sold so many. I just had problems with it. I have problems with the EX Finder screen on the Casio, but otherwise it is pretty good.Thanks, Barry!
I am also sorry for not quoting your message entirely, but here is
just few examples of misunderstaning... or so I feel... It looks
like I almost managed to get my point accross (which is quite an
accomlishement for me, considering my English), but then, there are
some paragraphs I just can't resist to comment
bringing this up again.
Many people LOVE s30-50 interface and just don't understand what's
so bad about it. For me - in a word - it was joystick. In almost
two years, I couldn't learn how to use it properly. But, when I
gave the camera to my friend, he said afterwards that joystick was
really comfortable, and he didn't have any trouble with it
whatsoever.
I would encourage anyone to try the camera, and not base their judgement on anyone else's opinions.So, you may be right 100%, and you probably are, but still, I
cannot be assured until I try
I believe that. It's not like comparing a 3mp with a 5 mp. The difference in the number of pixels is small between 5 and 6mp. But it is still mostly personal and subjective. Once you move past Phil's "tests", everything else is subjective in real-world shooting.
The differences between their images are not significantly better or worse in general use. I agree there.Once again, we are exchanging subjective opinions
6mp was better than 5mp, it could well be vise versa, but until i
actually COMPARE several pairs of the images made under different
shooting conditions (such "paired" images are very hard to come by,
BTW), judging them by my own criteria, I won't be able to make an
opinion. Unless the difference in quality is EXTREMELY obvious
(which is not a case with 550 and P600, I beleive).
For most people these things are unfortunately very important. I also rely more on Photoshop, although when not using RAW mode I do make sure WB is accurate and check other settings. Noise is something one must live with. There is software to remove it, but at low ISO's it cannot usually even be seen in 8"x10" prints. Vignetting could be a problem, however I now believe those getting it have defective cameras. I saw none, and they shouldn't either. Levels of detail and dynamic range are also partially subjective, but often obvious when viewed at 100% in Photoshop. At first glance, one cannot usually tell.
About the lenses we do disagee. I personally rarely use a wide angle - even with the A1 which has 28mm, and I find the Pentax lens superior after examining results in Photoshop. Otherwise one could not possible tell. A longer lens in a pocket camera is more useful to me than a wider angle.
Because Casio uses a Canon lens does not mean it is a high quality one. It certainly is quite good, but I'll still stick with my opinion of the Pentax lens which I feel is better. The Pentax zoom is unquestionably better. That is the biggest failing of the P600 design. And for ME personally Tele and Macro are very important.
I have repeated made it clear that my comments are entirely personal. Unfortunately, in my mind I am rightly or wrongly always comparing it to 2 other cameras that I actually use. It is difficult to forget about their virtues when comparing other camerasOnce again, subjective opinion
superior lens, it has a different lens. It has more tele- and more
macro-, but less wide. 90% of shots i do are made at full wide, for
better framing (I wish I had more of it).
Exactly! Same here
superiority and weaknesses, I should always interprete it as
"superiority and weaknesses according to your own criteria", and
not just superiority and weakneses in general...
I personally would not play with the Service Menus, and in any case, the RAW conversion software that comes with cameras is not always the best to use. But they should have their own when it becomes an officially operable feature.
I really didn't mean to compare either of them with the A1. I only mentioned that camera to make a point. Obviously I don't believe that the Pentax can compete with it either.
That said, I am still interested in possibly buying a P600, although I have some questions about it. I am not one to wait for Phil's reviews before buying any camera, and I will base my decision on my own needs - and that's what everyone else should as well.
Regards,
Barry
I've had to cut parts here and some of yours as well.
Barry Kernerman
Senior Member
You are supposed to take in that room. But in my suggestions to you I completely forgot that you are using the flash. ronald may be right. I rarely use flash, so I cannot be sure now what to do other than to keep experimenting with it. When I do use flash I usually set the WB on AUTO, and the flash then changes accordingly.
Barry
Barry
Hi, I tried it again today with a different light (since it is daylight) and it is a little better, but still quite blue (the manual WB) I think there must be something wrong as I know I am setting it correctly. Pictures look very blue in all WB options but shade, and this is with or without incasndescent light.
Barry Kernerman
Senior Member
In that case if I were you I would change the camera for a new one. It is obviously defective, as the Manual WB setting should be pretty accurate - especially in daylight, and I'm sure that Casio would not that is normal for the camera. It's true that some cameras tend to images with a warmer or cooler temperature, but that should be a very subtle thing that probably would not bother most people.
I'm sure you've got a defective camera Caroline, and because of that I still don't think it's enough reason to give up on a P600 yet.
Barry
I'm sure you've got a defective camera Caroline, and because of that I still don't think it's enough reason to give up on a P600 yet.
Barry
i bought the p600 3 days ago, and it had a massive burned black pixel problem on 10+ sec exposures, like black snow.. you can find a post where i show it, so i returned the cam to the shop and took another p600
no more black pixel.. but look!
a nice set of fried line of ccd blue sensors..
i'm going to return this one too .. VERY disappointed..
no more black pixel.. but look!
a nice set of fried line of ccd blue sensors..
i'm going to return this one too .. VERY disappointed..
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