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D1X...outdated?
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tallone6ft5
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Some will say that it is still worth getting but here is my view. If the D1x is what your looking at then take a very serious look at the D2h. The D2h will handle most if not all of what the D1x would and then some. Have seen a lot of post of shooters who have replaced their D1x's with D2h's. Plus, the cost of the D2h is similar if not less than a D1x is. There are many examples of low iso shots, 200 and 400, that were shot with the D2h that surpass the D1x plus you get a terrific buffer and high frame rate to boot!!
Just my take on it.
Just my take on it.
Tony Donaldson146615
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D1x battery life is bad compared to the 2h, but the image quality is still the best in the Nikon lineup. Also syncs at any speed up to around 1/3200, with external flash on a PC cord. It's a great workhorse, I still use mine a lot, and I have both. Each has its own strength.
I thought of the D2H but with its lower resolution I wonder how pictures printed out at 13x19 would look.
simon
Senior Member
Yeah, it's like ever since the D2H came out, my D1X wont take good shots anymore - dont know why.
There's nothing on the D2H that I'd sell my D1X for - just not enough reasons there.
For my situation, alot depends on the D2X
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There's nothing on the D2H that I'd sell my D1X for - just not enough reasons there.
For my situation, alot depends on the D2X
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- Simon, Sydney
Simon,
I assume you mean for your situation alot depends on the D1X. I do not intend to denegrate the D1X but everything has a "shelf life" and I just want to make sure I'm not over looking a reason not to consider this camera. I do worry some about the resolution. I like to print at 13x19 and I need to know for sure the pictures taken with this camera will still look great at that size.
I assume you mean for your situation alot depends on the D1X. I do not intend to denegrate the D1X but everything has a "shelf life" and I just want to make sure I'm not over looking a reason not to consider this camera. I do worry some about the resolution. I like to print at 13x19 and I need to know for sure the pictures taken with this camera will still look great at that size.
ghpoty
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It depends what you really need. In my case the D1x would be the camera continue to serve me for the next many years as I don't find any "significant" factors that I should switch to something else.
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Larry Gleason
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Exactly my take (Simon). I did two jobs yesterday and got nothing but garbage out of my D1X because of all the threads questioning the D1X's ability. I can't figure out why final selections on the first job are continuing as the prints are going to be delivered to Paris, France (some corporate headquarters, I rarely pay attention to the details). The D2H is a great camera and meets a need. But like Simon, nothing that would cause me to replace my D1X with it. I also await the D2X but will still keep shooting the D1X. It takes great photos and is a real delight to have in hand working jobs.
As far as a question I saw about prints from the D2H (and now the D1X) at 13X19, I like Simon's subject title. Your kidding right? 20X30 is routine at our gallery and can go larger for either camera without thinking about it.
Noticed that this is a first time Nikon thread post as you are coming over from the Canon forum. Welcome!
Larry Gleason
As far as a question I saw about prints from the D2H (and now the D1X) at 13X19, I like Simon's subject title. Your kidding right? 20X30 is routine at our gallery and can go larger for either camera without thinking about it.
Noticed that this is a first time Nikon thread post as you are coming over from the Canon forum. Welcome!
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jb_va2001
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D1X...outdated? Of course not. It still takes great pics just like the day it was released. But, I'd only buy the D1X if it was significantly less $$$ than the D2H, and low price was a critical element my decision making process. In side-by-side comparisons the D2H enlarges better than any other Nikon DSLR despite the difference in Mpix. Don't be put off, 13x19 enlargements from the D2H look great. If at all possible, go to a pro-level camera shop and see for yourself. And, the D2H is better in almost any other measureable way than the D1X; FPS, battery life, focusing speed... I don't know anyone eho has bought a D2H and continues to use their D1_ anylonger. More, the D2X will likely share the same body, button locations, battery, accessories, etc allowing you to upgrade easily if you feel the need or if you are a believer in the 2 camera system as am I (1-main, 1-backup), this similarity will make life easier for you.
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GilbertC
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I suggest you to rent or borrow both D1X and D2H and shoot these two camera in the street near noon in a sunny day under strong hot sunlight. Check the near blown-out area of photos shot by both cameras then you know the difference.
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Frank Benvenuto
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Is an F5 outdated? I think not.. Same thing with the D1x.. or the Original D1 for that matter..
For my needs I really should NEVER need to replace her.. Of course I will replace her LONG before I actually NEEDED to just because I need to have new toys every once and awhile.. but actually NEED to replace her.. NO..!! NEVER! shooting photos for the web can you understand what I mean here?
Tools are picked for the job at hand..
Frank
For my needs I really should NEVER need to replace her.. Of course I will replace her LONG before I actually NEEDED to just because I need to have new toys every once and awhile.. but actually NEED to replace her.. NO..!! NEVER! shooting photos for the web can you understand what I mean here?
Tools are picked for the job at hand..
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I continue to use my D1X week after week at weddings, it has the cleanest files of any Nikon (with maybe the exception of the D1H) below 400 iso, it also has the best color of any I've seen yet. I print up to 20x30's on a regular basis and they're great, the only other Nikon mount camera that looks better at that size is the 14n. I did my research on this subject because my business demands the best image I can produce, the D1X is the only answer for me to date. Now if I needed absolute speed and a little noise didn't matter then I'd go for the D2H.
lomoportfolio
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I printed 12x18 from 3MP taken by Fuji S1 and absolutelly satisfied with results. Even at 3MPs the lense makes difference. With Nikkor 85/1.8 the pictures were fine.
GilbertC
Forum Enthusiast
D2H has a near-negtive-film non-linear behavior in high-blown-out exposure. Still not as good as negtive film but pretty close already. That's one of the main reason I bought a D2H. The other reason is its whole new design best viewfinder nikon ever made.
Oh I am not a D1x-to-D2H upgrade user I didnt buy a D1x in the past I am a new D2H user. D1x is still an excellent camera. But if comparing D2H with D1x I suggest you not to just check control-lightening photos and features. You gotta take a look at D2H's whole new viewfinder and its near-negtive-film behavior under hot sunlight. IMO D2H is the only camera regardless of brand that can be used at noon in a sunny day .
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ira skurnick
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the D1X "outdated" - not a chance
but let's go back to the unstated discussion of what you need
i shot ~ 4 GB's worth of images today. the first Gig was devoted to (manual focus) macro shots of flowers, the last 3 were wildlife shots where the superior AF capability of the D2H would beat the rest hands down.
to be fair, i have and use 3 SB-800's as the opportunities arise, and here the genius of Nikon's new i-TTL system are simply outstanding. some have been heard saying that the 800's are reason alone to get the D2H.
every tool as you know has it's place. you have to decide what your range of needs demand and use your tools accordingly
best,
Ira
but let's go back to the unstated discussion of what you need
i shot ~ 4 GB's worth of images today. the first Gig was devoted to (manual focus) macro shots of flowers, the last 3 were wildlife shots where the superior AF capability of the D2H would beat the rest hands down.
to be fair, i have and use 3 SB-800's as the opportunities arise, and here the genius of Nikon's new i-TTL system are simply outstanding. some have been heard saying that the 800's are reason alone to get the D2H.
every tool as you know has it's place. you have to decide what your range of needs demand and use your tools accordingly
best,
Ira
On the other hand, once you learn your system, getting the exposure right becomes second nature, with or without flash. I shoot 1000 shots at each wedding and have a very small percentage of throw-aways (and mostly because of closed eyes, etc but not because of bad exposures).
I plan to get the D2X when it comes out and then I can take advantage of my SB-800's but I really don't have any problems now with my D1X and SB-800 combo.
I plan to get the D2X when it comes out and then I can take advantage of my SB-800's but I really don't have any problems now with my D1X and SB-800 combo.
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shooter2
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Dennis,
Would you please expand on your definition of "cleanest". The high iso noise is worrying me about D2H. I have 2 D-100s but will need a better AF by this fall for large event. Do not really want to go to dark side, but will not be able to wait on D2X. A peer will be shooting with me and I am confident he will have 1DMkII by then. I would hate to have a peer have better files than me at my event.D1X prices are falling and many dealers are selling their demos, which is a good sign for D2X. Also, when looking for a used D1X, what were the updates and how much does the buffer upgrade cost. Thanks you.
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Shooter2
I've compared the D2H, D100, D1X files at their lowest iso's to find which camera had the lowest noise, the D1X was the winner here. At higher iso's (above 400) the D100 won out. This is why I use the D1X and D100's at my weddings (the D100 is great for those times I can't use flash and have to turn up the iso). The AF on the D1X is much faster than the D100 and seems more accurate as well. The D1X also had the better color of the three. For my needs the D1X is still the best DSLR from Nikon.
I'm very confident the D1X files will stand up against the files from the 1DMKII (especially with the D1X files being processed in 10mp mode in Nikon Capture), but if you're wanting to have the speed like the 1DMKII then the D2H is the way to go. BTW, I've had my D1X files mistaken for the 1ds files on a wedding forum before.
I paid $250 for my buffer upgrade (well worth it), I never max out my buffer anymore. Here's the info on the upgrade:
http://www.nikonusa.com/fileuploads/firmware_upgrades/d1xbuffer.html
With the buffer upgrade they upgrade the firmware as well.
shooter2
Senior Member
Dennis,I've compared the D2H, D100, D1X files at their lowest iso's to
find which camera had the lowest noise, the D1X was the winner
here. At higher iso's (above 400) the D100 won out. This is why I
use the D1X and D100's at my weddings (the D100 is great for those
times I can't use flash and have to turn up the iso). The AF on the
D1X is much faster than the D100 and seems more accurate as well.
The D1X also had the better color of the three. For my needs the
D1X is still the best DSLR from Nikon.
I'm very confident the D1X files will stand up against the files
from the 1DMKII (especially with the D1X files being processed in
10mp mode in Nikon Capture), but if you're wanting to have the
speed like the 1DMKII then the D2H is the way to go. BTW, I've had
my D1X files mistaken for the 1ds files on a wedding forum before.
I paid $250 for my buffer upgrade (well worth it), I never max out
my buffer anymore. Here's the info on the upgrade:
http://www.nikonusa.com/fileuploads/firmware_upgrades/d1xbuffer.html
With the buffer upgrade they upgrade the firmware as well.
Thank you for your prompt reply and valuable insight. Does this mean I would have to shoot in Raw or nef to get the 10mp files. I am not too worried about the frame rate. Only one day will be horsemanship in a poorly lit indoor arena. Flash and probably iso 640 to 800 will be required on these action shots. Depending on the exact situation, which I will probably fly down to pre-check again, I might throw in a few monolights on the pocket wizards to give the on camera a little boost. This is why I will need the faster AF tracking. I have done many of these in the past and the D-100 AF just doesn't keep up. I will be using my 70-200 VR lens (if it works-used it yesterday after a few months of riding in the bag and it was doing weird things like it did before I sent it in last time for major repair.)
I still have the SB-80 flashes. Have you found the SB-800 to be a major improvement? And, do you use D-ttl or the auto mode?
On another note, I am getting some 16x20s ready for a wedding show. I have some already mounted and sprayed from my Mamiya 645AF (sold it) and just got a few 16x20 work prints back that I took with D-100 and 28-105 lens. No cropping mind you, but they are holding up very well next to the MF prints at this size. I will not be using one as it was a tight close up of B&G with a Tiffen Pro-mist filter and there is just too much detail even with the filter. The skin pores jump out at this size. This little lens amazes me at times. Slow and small but easy to carry and pretty danged sharp for the money.
Thanks again,
Shooter2
Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I've been outside hiding Easter eggs. Yes you have to shoot Raw to use the 10mp function.
The D1X AF has an advantage to the D100 in two areas, the speed, and the fact that the center focusing area is a crosshatch configuration while the D100 is a single horizontal line configuration. In other words the D1X can focus on vertical or horizontal lines while the D100 needs verticals lines to focus, this really helps the D1X to focus faster especially during action shots.
I just got a couple of SB-800's and they seems to be about the same on the D1X as the SB-80's were. You'll need the D70, D2H or D2X (if it ever gets here) to take advantage of the iTTL. When I shoot inside, I have the flash on TTL non-matrix mode, when I'm outside I use TTL matrix mode. When I'm using the flash as a fill light I have the EV on the flash set to -1.3 or -1.7 (depending on the lighting ratio I'm looking for).
That 28-105 is an very unrated lens, I think it's an extremely sharp lens considering the price. I took this shot with the D1X and 28-105 combo:
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