My Daughter in her Prom Dress

I hesitate to offer my amateur musings here among the professional advice already given, but here goes anyway:

First off, you have a very attractive model in a becoming dress. I visited your web site and was struck with her beautiful smile in the other pictures, so I probably would have selected a picture with a smile. Of course, a smile doesn't flatter all subjects, but it suited your model well.

I personally found the background to be a little distracting, a little too in focus. It would be nice if there were more distance between the background and the subject so as to blur the background. I'll bet the same effect could be achieved in photoshop.

Someone suggested getting closer. I think maybe filling more of the frame with your subject would be a good idea, but the perspective seemed to be good from whatever distance these pictures were shot (you know getting in too close can exagerate features in a not so good way).

Thanks for posting, I learned from your practice.

P.S. Your site has some wonderful pictures. Perhaps it's just the work of a good photographer, but it seems you live in a wonderfully idyllic setting. Loved "under the bridge milford." It looked more like the work of a painter creating the perfect scene. I'll bet you could get some nice portraits with nature as a backdrop as well.
 
I hesitate to offer my amateur musings here among the professional
advice already given, but here goes anyway:

First off, you have a very attractive model in a becoming dress. I
visited your web site and was struck with her beautiful smile in
the other pictures, so I probably would have selected a picture
with a smile. Of course, a smile doesn't flatter all subjects, but
it suited your model well.

I personally found the background to be a little distracting, a
little too in focus. It would be nice if there were more distance
between the background and the subject so as to blur the
background. I'll bet the same effect could be achieved in
photoshop.

Someone suggested getting closer. I think maybe filling more of
the frame with your subject would be a good idea, but the
perspective seemed to be good from whatever distance these pictures
were shot (you know getting in too close can exagerate features in
a not so good way).

Thanks for posting, I learned from your practice.

P.S. Your site has some wonderful pictures. Perhaps it's just the
work of a good photographer, but it seems you live in a wonderfully
idyllic setting. Loved "under the bridge milford." It looked more
like the work of a painter creating the perfect scene. I'll bet
you could get some nice portraits with nature as a backdrop as well.
Firstly thank you so much for your interest and kind words , I am trully blessed with a daughter like Kayleigh , not only is she perfect but she is a big show off and loves the camera ,

Here is my favourite picture from yesterday



Ive changed a few from my site to include this one

Kindest regards

Jules
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Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
I have just got myself a fabulous deal with Dell (US) and have
ordered a 10D, a 28-135 IS USM, Canon EX555 Speedlight, and a
couple of Sandisk Ultras to get me going. They will take a week or
so to get here, but good time they are a comin!

Going to Hawaii in a couple of weeks for a quick vaca as well, so
they may be here in time, hopefully.

Did you go over to Florida again this year?

I guess I'll have to try and keep up with you now. Can you send
your daughter over for a couple of weeks? Nah, didn't think so.

David
Julian, I see you are really into this DSLR stuff now. Well good
for you. Glad to see you are going at it.

My own personal take on your pics is: WAY too much background and
not enough girl...lose the chair, stick her on a stool, and the
hands auto go into her lap. Turn her body 30 degrees and turn the
head in.

As I said, my OWN taste, but ya know I am weird anyway.

BTW, me and a buddy hiked 2 hours to a waterall near Mt Rainier
yesterday, scrambled 500 foot up a cliffside to get a good view but
the lighting was poor and everything was a dull UK-Day gray. Total
waste of time, but got a good work out all the same.

Regards

David Roberts

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Greetings from Mt. Rainier Country
Hi Dave

Glad to see your still lurking :)

Thanks for your coments , I am just about to plan my next shoot
here in my new studio , Im having a great time playing around here
and Sue is threataning to buy me a 1D ll after seeing me try one at
a localk show last week :)

Roll on my birthday !!!!!

Jules
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Greetings from Mt. Rainier Country
Hi David

That sounds like a great package youve ordered , I hope that it arrives before your vacation and cannot wait to see the results ,

I looked at the 10D , its a brilliant camera and certainly looks the part ,

I asked Kayleigh and she said she would love to visit :)

enjoy Jules
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Firstly thank you so much for your interest and kind words , I am
trully blessed with a daughter like Kayleigh , not only is she
perfect but she is a big show off and loves the camera ,

Here is my favourite picture from yesterday
That's a nice one Julian. The two things I'd draw your attention to. First, her hands - they just don't seem relaxed. I'm not a portrait shooter so can't offer advice on how to fix that. May I suggest you post over in the Lighting forum where you'll receive tons of advice.

Second, both photos you showed had a gap between the top of her head and the top of the frame. Fill the frame more. All that is just wasted space up top.

I also think your background is lovely. That's not good. I should be too focused on the girl, and she should be filling enough of the frame, that I don't even care to notice the background. That's an opinion though. Some may like it as is. Background manufacturers, for example.

Ok, that wasn't actually two things. Sorry. ;)

regards.
 
Changed around a few on my site :)

Jules
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Paul

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She's a beauty, and the shot is great, although I would like to see the whole dress. I made the same mistake when I took shots of my son at his junior prom last year:



Fortunately, I caught myself and got some full body shots as well. You should be very proud ~ for both the fine photo and your beautiful daughter.

;)
Willa



Left-eyed and Canonized!
'If I could find my way back there, I'd NEVER leave!'
See my attempts at photography at:
http://www.pbase.com/willa
 
Changed around a few on my site :)

Jules
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Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

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Paul

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All rights reserved.
Hi Paul

Sorry I never replied sooner , I postred over on the lighting forum and got overwhelmed a little,

Your edit was fantastic , I am more than impressed with your PS skills , the image was well cropped and adjusted , Funnily enough I normally crop but for some bizzare reason I never with these ,

hanks again , I am slowly getting to grips with all the advice

Jules
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Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
Firstly thank you so much for your interest and kind words , I am
trully blessed with a daughter like Kayleigh , not only is she
perfect but she is a big show off and loves the camera ,

Here is my favourite picture from yesterday
That's a nice one Julian. The two things I'd draw your attention
to. First, her hands - they just don't seem relaxed. I'm not a
portrait shooter so can't offer advice on how to fix that. May I
suggest you post over in the Lighting forum where you'll receive
tons of advice.

Second, both photos you showed had a gap between the top of her
head and the top of the frame. Fill the frame more. All that is
just wasted space up top.

I also think your background is lovely. That's not good. I should
be too focused on the girl, and she should be filling enough of the
frame, that I don't even care to notice the background. That's an
opinion though. Some may like it as is. Background manufacturers,
for example.

Ok, that wasn't actually two things. Sorry. ;)

regards.
Hi

Firstly I am more than grateful for as many sugestions as you have , I totally agree with all you said , its weird how I look at these pics and im so proud of Kayleigh that i dont look any further

You have all done me a wonderful service , I fully intend to post some more over the next day or so

Thanks Jules
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Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
She's a beauty, and the shot is great, although I would like to see
the whole dress. I made the same mistake when I took shots of my
son at his junior prom last year:



Fortunately, I caught myself and got some full body shots as well.
You should be very proud ~ for both the fine photo and your
beautiful daughter.

;)
Willa



Left-eyed and Canonized!
'If I could find my way back there, I'd NEVER leave!'
See my attempts at photography at:
http://www.pbase.com/willa
Thanks Willa ,

I am trully very Proud of her ,

Your son looks very smart , you to did a fab job

Regards Jules
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Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
Hi All

this is my first attempt with my new home studio

BE KIND :)
Hi Julian,

Keep up the good work.

There are many ways to take good portraits and everyone has a
different technique. However, I would make the following
suggestions as a starting point.

Turn camera through 90 deg & shoot in portrait, not landscape.

Move model further away from the background to throw it out of
focus and make it less fussy and distracting.

Model body is too square on to the camera. Try turning the
body/shoulders about 30 to 45 deg to the camera, with just the head
turned to face camera.

Move in closer to fill the frame. For head & shoulders use
something like 80 to 100mm lens, and keep aperture fairly wide to
minimise depth of field.

Your lighting was reasonable, possibly a little more frontal light
to cut shadow areas a little bit. Normal starting point would be
main frontal light just to one side of camera position and fill in
at about 45 deg and around ¼ to 1/6 of light output of main light.

I only have a couple of mono portraits on my gallery at the moment,
but look at http://www.pbase.com/image/27309919

Ken C

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Long live monochrome. What would Ansel Adams have produced with the
300D (or Rebel if you like).
Thank you Ken

I will try out all these sugestions over the next few days #

I am trully grateful for your help

Watch this space

Jules
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Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
I have started to look for little a highlight in eyes in the photos
(can't remember the term). I don't know how you might get that
with her left eye with your equipment though. Blind her with fill
flash from onboard flash? :-O

Nice portrait.
Hi All

this is my first attempt with my new home studio

BE KIND :)



I as ever would appreciate your feedback there are several more on
my site

Happy Easter

Jules
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Mark Williams
http://markwilliams.fotopic.net/ (Testing for 250MB Free)
Thanks Mark

Its great that we all learn so much here ,

I enjoyed your galleries , very nice

Jules
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Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
Hi All

this is my first attempt with my new home studio

BE KIND :)



I as ever would appreciate your feedback there are several more on
my site

Happy Easter

Jules
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guestbook . http://www.julianporter.co.uk

Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

Thanks for the advice

I will be trying it out this weekend , Watch this space

Jules
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Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
Hi Julian,

I can't offer any advice other than you daughter looks live a lovely young lady.

Right I now I seem to be specializing in Ducks, Flowers and Sedona, Az.

I'm a long way from even trying portrraits but when I do I'll just know enough to be dangerous. ;-)

regards & happy shoorting ,

harveyf
Hi All

this is my first attempt with my new home studio

BE KIND :)



I as ever would appreciate your feedback there are several more on
my site

Happy Easter

Jules
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Please check out my site and if you have a comment please visit my
guestbook . http://www.julianporter.co.uk

Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

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you can see my pictures at
http://www.harveyf.smugmug.com
 
I can't offer any advice other than you daughter looks live a
lovely young lady.

Right I now I seem to be specializing in Ducks, Flowers and Sedona,
Az.

I'm a long way from even trying portrraits but when I do I'll just
know enough to be dangerous. ;-)

regards & happy shoorting ,

harveyf
Hi All

this is my first attempt with my new home studio

BE KIND :)



I as ever would appreciate your feedback there are several more on
my site

Happy Easter

Jules
--
Please check out my site and if you have a comment please visit my
guestbook . http://www.julianporter.co.uk

Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

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you can see my pictures at
http://www.harveyf.smugmug.com
Hi Harvey

Thank you for your kind words

I have just been looking at your galleriies and if there anything to go on your portraits will be fantastic .

I really love the Sedona shots

Great work Jules
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Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
Yeah, I noticed the image looks different from the original. The new crop is better as the first one had too much background. Coour is also better in the current image. Nice shot. But it's hard to take a bad shot with a lovely subject like your daughter.
Changed around a few on my site :)

Jules
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Hey Julian, now THAT IS a much better picture IMHO. Lovely smile, body at angle, less background.

Man, I need this Canon 10D to beat the Cr@p outta you, but it ain't gonna be easy.

Nice one...send her over.

David

PS. I am going to be into those night shots just for you.
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Greetings from Mt. Rainier Country
 
Changed around a few on my site :)

Jules
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Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

Thanks , I was encoureged by the responses here , I am very happy to continue with a few shots today now .

Cant wait to try a few things out

Main points seem to be , loose the shadows, move away from the backdrops and more of the model ,

Jules
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Julian Porter Southampton UK
Sony P9 & 717 and Canon 300D

 
Hey Julian, now THAT IS a much better picture IMHO. Lovely smile,
body at angle, less background.

Man, I need this Canon 10D to beat the Cr@p outta you, but it ain't
gonna be easy.

Nice one...send her over.

David

PS. I am going to be into those night shots just for you.
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Greetings from Mt. Rainier Country
Hi David

Im looking forward to those vacation night shots, Just imagine what they will look like ,

I will keep my fingers crossed that your baby arrives in time

Jules
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Julian Porter Southampton UK
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