MOTV vs. PSG2

PSG's SVCD format has always played just fine in my $30 wonder - an Apex AD1000 DVD player from Walmart. My newer AD1011 also plays 'em fine. Apex rocks!
  • Rick
http://www.pbase.com/truelight
MOTV vs. PSG2

I did some panning and resolution tests using Canon ESO 10D 6mg
images and resolution charts. The final output was a DVD viewed on
both progressive scan and interlaced scan on a RCA 38” US TV.

Images were pasted together side-by-side to produce long images
like you would have with panoramic stitched images.

With MemoriesOnTV I used the native encoder and also encoded with
various setting with TMPGEnc including 2-pass VBR. In all cases
the images were as sharp when zoomed in for a full screen view, as
they would be with a single image with no zoom. However, when the
slide was zoomed to full screen size and panned linearly across the
slide from left to right across the images that were paste
together, the panning was very jerky. It was somewhat better when
the time of the pan was longer, but still jerky.

With Proshow Gold 2 (1524) I used the default encoder and also
tried to changing the preferences from 800x600 to 1600x1200. The
results were the same. When zoomed in, the pictures were fuzzy and
not sharp at all. However, the panning was perfectly smooth.

The results indicate that there is no clear winner. They both
excel and fail in different areas.

If you use PSG2, keep zooming to lower levels and pan at any speed.

With MOTV zoom in as much as you want but do very slow panning.

MOTV is better if you include panoramic stitched photos in your
slide shows and PSG@ is better for standard slides with all panning
and minor zooming.
 
I don't think it is realistically possible to create a program of PSG's complexity (under the hood, that is) without some systems being left out of the fun. I know Photodex has pounded the program with all SORTS of hardware and software setups and there are some that are just not suitable.

I put off purchasing a DVD burner until PSG2 came out and I'm quite glad that I did. I had some hiccoughs with it (a Plextor 708a) in earlier builds, but along came build 1531 and things just WORKED then.

I agree with Rick about the player issue. Those dang Apex players are so cheap that it's almost worth sending a player along with the disk you send to grandma!

Casey
 
I don't think it is realistically possible to create a program of
PSG's complexity (under the hood, that is) without some systems
being left out of the fun. I know Photodex has pounded the program
with all SORTS of hardware and software setups and there are some
that are just not suitable.

I put off purchasing a DVD burner until PSG2 came out and I'm quite
glad that I did. I had some hiccoughs with it (a Plextor 708a) in
earlier builds, but along came build 1531 and things just WORKED
then.

I agree with Rick about the player issue. Those dang Apex players
are so cheap that it's almost worth sending a player along with the
disk you send to grandma!

Casey
Here in the UK I'd like to know the equivalent of these Apex players. We have cheap ones here, but the ones I've looked at seem to play either dvd-r and dvd+r, else the same but rw's instead of r's. So if I want to burn a trial RW before putting on an R, the cheap ones won't allow this to be done.

If anyone knows of a player available in the UK that will cover R/RWs, I would be pleased to be informed.

Cheers.
 
Who's critisizing? I think it's a great software but having problems with SVCD. I have 3 SVCD players I know works and one with even non-standard bit rates. Believe me, SVCD is widely used amongst my family and I do even have DVD burners.

SVCD for the price/quality is still the best but DVD media is coming down in price.

I'm getting somewhere with my results though...the more basic I keep the slideshows, the better it plays back. If I start getting fancy with quick transitions or quick picture displays (you can manually set to music) and all that stuff, it gets worse.

Anyways, still working on it.
Well that is a problem playing them and not just quality. At
times, the picture is not even viewable. I can't describe it
properly but it does hang and plays, stops and go's. Bottom line,
SVCD doesn't work for me and I'm trying to find anyone who has had
any success.

I just realized that the format must be compatible as Nero would
have given me errors.
I tried creating an SVCD yesterday and ran it on 2 different DVD
players. On the first one it ran slowly and jerked during the
transitions and the sound was useless. On the second DVD player it
was fine. Conclusion: the first DVD player could not handle the
SVCD properly.

The problem is how to identify players that cannot handle SVCD etc.
and confirm that it is not a problem with PSG.

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David
I think, despite all the criticism that PSG2 is receiving, the
problem is not so much the software, but the power potential it can
deliver on the right set-up. And to cater for all the differing
permutations of hardware and background software, not forgetting
the OSs. That for me to be honest, Photodex are doing a great job
getting as far as they have.

I just wish my set up was one of the compatible ones, with the
present version.
 
There's a lot to learn here:

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers

For me, my "$30 wonder", an Apex AD1000 plays anything as does it's new brother, an Apex AD 1011. Check to see if your player will play SVCD before you blame Photodex.
  • Rick
http://www.pbase.com/truelight
Well that is a problem playing them and not just quality. At
times, the picture is not even viewable. I can't describe it
properly but it does hang and plays, stops and go's. Bottom line,
SVCD doesn't work for me and I'm trying to find anyone who has had
any success.

I just realized that the format must be compatible as Nero would
have given me errors.
I tried creating an SVCD yesterday and ran it on 2 different DVD
players. On the first one it ran slowly and jerked during the
transitions and the sound was useless. On the second DVD player it
was fine. Conclusion: the first DVD player could not handle the
SVCD properly.

The problem is how to identify players that cannot handle SVCD etc.
and confirm that it is not a problem with PSG.

--
David
 

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