A2 or FZ10?

I'm hesitating between the A1 and the FZ10... both IS high zoom 4 mp cameras. Both have their advocates and their detractors. Anyone have experience with both, and can compare? Would take lots of action pics, kids, rafting, mountain biking, etc. The difference in zoom doesn't seem like much. (Also like the Oly 750 UZ, but it doesn't have IS).

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Frank

i m not familiar with FZ10 but just a correction here, A1 is a 5MP cam ... not 4MP

mondamin said:

I'm hesitating between the A1 and the FZ10... both IS high zoom 4
mp cameras. Both have their advocates and their detractors.
Anyone have experience with both, and can compare? Would take lots
of action pics, kids, rafting, mountain biking, etc. The
difference in zoom doesn't seem like much. (Also like the Oly 750
UZ, but it doesn't have IS).

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Frank

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hi Frank,

I had the FZ-10 for two weeks (not enough time for a great evaluation) and returned it. I then waited for the A2 and feel that I made the right choice -- for me.

I wish the FZ-10 had been the camera for me. At $500 it's a bargain for it's features. But I didn't like the results I was getting. Also it is not very intuitive as most of the features are menu driven.

My goal was to replace my Sony Mavica CD1000 with a high MP camera that had IS and more manual capability. The FZ-10 fit that bill but I wasn't happy with my images. I am finding the learning curve tough with the A2 as well, but loving the results! I suggest you try them both, and consider what you plan to use it for. (From what I understand, the A2 is quite good for action photography.) Either way you are getting a good camera with lots of features which will allow you to grow if you chose to pursue better photography techniques.

And one last thing -- the difference in zoom is huge! FZ-10 is a 12x and A2 is 7x

If you have specific questions please ask -- and good luck in your decision.

Peggy

mondamin said:

I'm hesitating between the A1 and the FZ10... both IS high zoom 4
mp cameras. Both have their advocates and their detractors.
Anyone have experience with both, and can compare? Would take lots
of action pics, kids, rafting, mountain biking, etc. The
difference in zoom doesn't seem like much. (Also like the Oly 750
UZ, but it doesn't have IS).

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Frank

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Sony Mavica CD1000, CD400
Canon S50 and underwater housing
Minolta A2
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I have neither camera, but I have shot with the FZ10 a few frames and find the 4 frame per second burst mode very important to shooting action.

mondamin said:

I'm hesitating between the A1 and the FZ10... both IS high zoom 4
mp cameras. Both have their advocates and their detractors.
Anyone have experience with both, and can compare? Would take lots
of action pics, kids, rafting, mountain biking, etc. The
difference in zoom doesn't seem like much. (Also like the Oly 750
UZ, but it doesn't have IS).

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Frank

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Brian
Drooling (now contemplating) over A1

You must be referring to the A1 which is a 5 megapixel and not the A2 which is an 8 megapixel. In any case, here is my reply on Open Forum to a similar question:

I used to own an FZ10 and still have an A1 as well. The Panasonic is great for outdoor use and although its highest quality .jpegs are over-compressed in my opinion, it still delivers sharp, high quality images. But definitely still not with the quality and detail as images from an A1. Besides, the A1 also has a RAW mode, as well as a huge list of features that are missing on the FZ10.

But although the FZ10 is a great bargain for the money, it is a mistake to think that it is in the same camera quality level of the A1. As I see it, its only advantage over the A1 is the extended tele range from 200mm. to 420mm. On the other hand, the A1's even higher quality lens has a 28mm wide-angle, and it produces no purple fringing that I've ever seen.

The Panasonic's real weakness however is in low-light indoor shooting, where the FZ10's EVF/LCD blacks out and its AF cannot obtain focus - this at light levels where the A1 still easily and quickly focuses. I am not talking about darkness here, but in indirect indoor low-light conditions where the camera is not pointed at some sort of light-source - say about 15 ft. into a room and pointed away from window light.

Because of this EVF/LCD problem I have decided to wait for its successor to come out, in the hope that this problem will be addressed by Panasonic. But the FZ10 is really a fun camera to use, and its lens alone is worth the price of admission.
Barry

mondamin said:

I'm hesitating between the A1 and the FZ10... both IS high zoom 4
mp cameras. Both have their advocates and their detractors.
Anyone have experience with both, and can compare? Would take lots
of action pics, kids, rafting, mountain biking, etc. The
difference in zoom doesn't seem like much. (Also like the Oly 750
UZ, but it doesn't have IS).

--
Frank

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I see others have cleared up the A1/A2 confusion...

I tried the FZ10 and so much wanted to like it but agreed with the above post...

I know it is more money, but I feel the best choice is first the A1-by far-
not a pun...

But--if you can wait a bit for prices to drop or even a used A2 to come around, or a refurb--because those faulty ones will be sent back and sold as refurb and that is a real value opportunity...

I have the 8700 and the A2--gasp and now a D70..

I can say that at low iso the 8700 and A2 are incredible. The A2 has AS and when you crop it is is like having that extra zoom--with AS and no tripod. The 8700 is slightly less noisy-but no AS. I really don't get any CA or PF and the A2 is great in low light!!!!

It may sound crazy--but the A2 is the best choice at 8 mp--and I would check for refurb with warranty. I sent one back with faulty AS. Those early units be be like new with full warranty and a lot less cost!!!

Good luck!!!

Linda

Barry Kernerman said:

I used to own an FZ10 and still have an A1 as well. The Panasonic
is great for outdoor use and although its highest quality .jpegs
are over-compressed in my opinion, it still delivers sharp, high
quality images. But definitely still not with the quality and
detail as images from an A1. Besides, the A1 also has a RAW mode,
as well as a huge list of features that are missing on the FZ10.

But although the FZ10 is a great bargain for the money, it is a
mistake to think that it is in the same camera quality level of the
A1. As I see it, its only advantage over the A1 is the extended
tele range from 200mm. to 420mm. On the other hand, the A1's even
higher quality lens has a 28mm wide-angle, and it produces no
purple fringing that I've ever seen.

The Panasonic's real weakness however is in low-light indoor
shooting, where the FZ10's EVF/LCD blacks out and its AF cannot
obtain focus - this at light levels where the A1 still easily and
quickly focuses. I am not talking about darkness here, but in
indirect indoor low-light conditions where the camera is not
pointed at some sort of light-source - say about 15 ft. into a room
and pointed away from window light.

Because of this EVF/LCD problem I have decided to wait for its
successor to come out, in the hope that this problem will be
addressed by Panasonic. But the FZ10 is really a fun camera to use,
and its lens alone is worth the price of admission.
Barry

mondamin said:

I'm hesitating between the A1 and the FZ10... both IS high zoom 4
mp cameras. Both have their advocates and their detractors.
Anyone have experience with both, and can compare? Would take lots
of action pics, kids, rafting, mountain biking, etc. The
difference in zoom doesn't seem like much. (Also like the Oly 750
UZ, but it doesn't have IS).

--
Frank

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I've been torn between getting an A2 and a D70. The D70 doesn't have a PC sync socket for studio strobes does it? I believe you have to go to the D100 to get that. I have a ton of Nikon lenses but require studio strobe use so have been looking at the A2.

lharris said:

I tried the FZ10 and so much wanted to like it but agreed with the
above post...

I know it is more money, but I feel the best choice is first the
A1-by far-
not a pun...

But--if you can wait a bit for prices to drop or even a used A2 to
come around, or a refurb--because those faulty ones will be sent
back and sold as refurb and that is a real value opportunity...

I have the 8700 and the A2--gasp and now a D70..

I can say that at low iso the 8700 and A2 are incredible. The A2
has AS and when you crop it is is like having that extra zoom--with
AS and no tripod. The 8700 is slightly less noisy-but no AS. I
really don't get any CA or PF and the A2 is great in low light!!!!

It may sound crazy--but the A2 is the best choice at 8 mp--and I
would check for refurb with warranty. I sent one back with faulty
AS. Those early units be be like new with full warranty and a lot
less cost!!!

Good luck!!!

Linda

Barry Kernerman said:

I used to own an FZ10 and still have an A1 as well. The Panasonic
is great for outdoor use and although its highest quality .jpegs
are over-compressed in my opinion, it still delivers sharp, high
quality images. But definitely still not with the quality and
detail as images from an A1. Besides, the A1 also has a RAW mode,
as well as a huge list of features that are missing on the FZ10.

But although the FZ10 is a great bargain for the money, it is a
mistake to think that it is in the same camera quality level of the
A1. As I see it, its only advantage over the A1 is the extended
tele range from 200mm. to 420mm. On the other hand, the A1's even
higher quality lens has a 28mm wide-angle, and it produces no
purple fringing that I've ever seen.

The Panasonic's real weakness however is in low-light indoor
shooting, where the FZ10's EVF/LCD blacks out and its AF cannot
obtain focus - this at light levels where the A1 still easily and
quickly focuses. I am not talking about darkness here, but in
indirect indoor low-light conditions where the camera is not
pointed at some sort of light-source - say about 15 ft. into a room
and pointed away from window light.

Because of this EVF/LCD problem I have decided to wait for its
successor to come out, in the hope that this problem will be
addressed by Panasonic. But the FZ10 is really a fun camera to use,
and its lens alone is worth the price of admission.
Barry

mondamin said:

I'm hesitating between the A1 and the FZ10... both IS high zoom 4
mp cameras. Both have their advocates and their detractors.
Anyone have experience with both, and can compare? Would take lots
of action pics, kids, rafting, mountain biking, etc. The
difference in zoom doesn't seem like much. (Also like the Oly 750
UZ, but it doesn't have IS).

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Frank

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http://www.garageglamour.com/portfolios/greatphotos

Thanks very much for the ideas. But what is AS... same as IS (Image Stabilization)? And I had an "aha" moment... the A2 at 8 mp and 200 mm is almost as good (mathematically) as the FZ10 at 4 mp and 420 mm. Should crop to the same quality image, right? Tho from what I'm hearing the A1 and A2 have better picture quality, so it's probably better.

Leaning towards spending the extra $$ and going for an A2...

Frank

lharris said:

I tried the FZ10 and so much wanted to like it but agreed with the
above post...

I know it is more money, but I feel the best choice is first the
A1-by far-
not a pun...

But--if you can wait a bit for prices to drop or even a used A2 to
come around, or a refurb--because those faulty ones will be sent
back and sold as refurb and that is a real value opportunity...

I have the 8700 and the A2--gasp and now a D70..

I can say that at low iso the 8700 and A2 are incredible. The A2
has AS and when you crop it is is like having that extra zoom--with
AS and no tripod. The 8700 is slightly less noisy-but no AS. I
really don't get any CA or PF and the A2 is great in low light!!!!

It may sound crazy--but the A2 is the best choice at 8 mp--and I
would check for refurb with warranty. I sent one back with faulty
AS. Those early units be be like new with full warranty and a lot
less cost!!!

Good luck!!!

Linda

Barry Kernerman said:

I used to own an FZ10 and still have an A1 as well. The Panasonic
is great for outdoor use and although its highest quality .jpegs
are over-compressed in my opinion, it still delivers sharp, high
quality images. But definitely still not with the quality and
detail as images from an A1. Besides, the A1 also has a RAW mode,
as well as a huge list of features that are missing on the FZ10.

But although the FZ10 is a great bargain for the money, it is a
mistake to think that it is in the same camera quality level of the
A1. As I see it, its only advantage over the A1 is the extended
tele range from 200mm. to 420mm. On the other hand, the A1's even
higher quality lens has a 28mm wide-angle, and it produces no
purple fringing that I've ever seen.

The Panasonic's real weakness however is in low-light indoor
shooting, where the FZ10's EVF/LCD blacks out and its AF cannot
obtain focus - this at light levels where the A1 still easily and
quickly focuses. I am not talking about darkness here, but in
indirect indoor low-light conditions where the camera is not
pointed at some sort of light-source - say about 15 ft. into a room
and pointed away from window light.

Because of this EVF/LCD problem I have decided to wait for its
successor to come out, in the hope that this problem will be
addressed by Panasonic. But the FZ10 is really a fun camera to use,
and its lens alone is worth the price of admission.
Barry

mondamin said:

I'm hesitating between the A1 and the FZ10... both IS high zoom 4
mp cameras. Both have their advocates and their detractors.
Anyone have experience with both, and can compare? Would take lots
of action pics, kids, rafting, mountain biking, etc. The
difference in zoom doesn't seem like much. (Also like the Oly 750
UZ, but it doesn't have IS).

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Frank

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Frank

I meant to ask one more question... is shutter lag on the A1 or A2 a problem? Doing a lot of action photography, it's important...

Frank

Both are fast, with little noticable lag. The A2 would be a bit faster of the 2 cameras. They are not quite as fast as DSLR's, but compared to other fixed-lens cameras they are very quick. And both can easily focus in very low light - using AF or Manual focus.
Barry

mondamin said:

I meant to ask one more question... is shutter lag on the A1 or A2
a problem? Doing a lot of action photography, it's important...

Frank

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mondamin said:

... the A2 at 8 mp and 200 mm is almost as good (mathematically)
as the FZ10 at 4 mp and 420 mm. Should crop to the same quality
image, right?

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Not quite. For resolution you need to take the square root of the MP.
So, instead of comparing 8 to 4 (twice as good) you need to compare
2.83 to 2 = 1.4 as good.

So 200mm at 8 MP is about the same as 283 mm at 4 MP.
But the A2 is WAY better than the FZ10 at wide-angle.

Hi Berry,

I decided to post these images based on your statement that the FZ10 could not focus 15' away from a window source. The sample images that I have posted are from 37' away (no flash) with the window behind my back. The 1st image was taken at 35mm. The second image was taken at 420mm from the same location of the first image. I will agree the evf does dim AFTER I have framed my subject (which is visible in the evf) and focus has locked but to say that the FZ10 cannot do what you ask at 15' is incorrect.

As you have stated previously on other posts... the FZ10 you purchased was defective. It is very possible there were more issues with your camera than you were possibly aware. If you truly like this camera... you really should give it a second chance instead of pronouncing the camera incapable of doing what you ask of it. You are more than welcome to view my gallery taken with the FZ10 since the following images do not do justice of the capabilities of this camera. Access to my gallery can be found at the bottom of this message below my signature. If you would like me to conduct an additional test, I would be more than happy to oblige.





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Regards,
Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com

Many nice shots there! Looks like it does a much better job focusing indoors than my Z1! I may have to go play with one of those. My only comment is the Fame pictures seem very red.

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Thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,

I'm glad you enjoyed. The "Fame" images you viewed were captured at ISO 400 and are unprocessed except for downsizing and some cropping. Unfortunately the stage lighting used was unflattering to the performers and probably could be corrected to some extent through post processing. I have only had this camera a month and still experimenting with the capabilities of the camera. Thanks again.
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Regards,
Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com

People have the impression that doubling the number of pixels doubles the resolution. They forget that resolution is a linear figure and the number of pixels is akin to area. Doubling the resolution requires 4x as many pixels, not twice as many, so an 8mp camera is only double the resolution of a 2mp camera. I think many people are baffled by this concept.

Do a search for the term "figure of merit" for a more comprehensive explanation of how well (or poorly) resolution substitutes for optical zoom.

That said, there is a HUGE difference between the 420mm zoom of the FZ10 and the 200mm of the A1/A2. I'm a long-time owner of the Olympus 2100 (380mm max zoom) and a recent owner of the A1, and I often miss the longer "reach" of the 2100. The A1's zoom seems feeble in comparison. However if you're accustomed to the pathetic 3x on most digicams, you won't know what you're missing. Then again, the A1's 28mm wide does come in handy once in a great while (although not as often as high zoom.) Your mileage may vary....

Also, I have absolutely no use for a high-zoom camera without image stabilization (or anti-shake - AS - as Minolta terms it.)

AlanF said:

mondamin said:

... the A2 at 8 mp and 200 mm is almost as good (mathematically)
as the FZ10 at 4 mp and 420 mm. Should crop to the same quality
image, right?

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Not quite. For resolution you need to take the square root of the MP.
So, instead of comparing 8 to 4 (twice as good) you need to compare
2.83 to 2 = 1.4 as good.

So 200mm at 8 MP is about the same as 283 mm at 4 MP.
But the A2 is WAY better than the FZ10 at wide-angle.

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Hello Kirwin,

As we both know this discussion went on ad-infinitum on the Panasonic Forum months ago, and I recall that you often disputed my claims whenever I brought it up. Since I've stopped participating in discussions there I have yet to see a single complaint about this problem - although there have been some people who have alluded to it. At the same time, many owners were trying to use small flashlights and lasers to overcome this problem which they claimed did not exist, and they still refused to admit there was a problem.

When I see the image you posted below of the room I am not surprised, because you have aimed the camera at a light source that appears to be a lit TV. There is even light reflecting off the TV onto the white cabinet. All enough to focus the camera and frame the subject.

I distinctly stated: when NOT aimed toward or near a light source. During the time I participated on the Panasonic Forum, I was constantly met with similar posted images trying to show me how my claims were wrong. However, like yours, they were all aimed at some light-source, be it the brightly lit stage of a rock concert, an indoor lamp, etc... But nobody posted a single image without a direct light-source of some kind. I'm not saying it's always impossible to do, but most of the time it is.

It would be impossible for me to explain exactly the lighting conditions that I referred to, however the fact remains, and a few others such as Walter, whom you know is an amazing photographer, have substantiated my claims that the EVF/LCD goes totally black in what I would consider to be low (but not dark) indoor light levels. In fact I have even seen it mentioned in a few reviews of the camera.

I was unable to use my camera (or previously the FZ1 as well) in my living room when trying to photograph objects against a wall facing the windows at the other end of the room (the windows being at my back) - from about 15 -17 ft into the room, and about 4 ft. from my subject, where the light was indirect natural low-light - levels at which my Pentax 550 has no trouble operating with ease - never mind my A1. When that happens, the camera's AF is simply unable to obtain focus, and in any case, even if it could, it would be still be impossible to frame the image because the EVF/LCD had gone black. Introducing a small amount of light such as the light from a distant TV provides enough light for the AF to operate as well as to see the subject through the very dim viewfinder.

This problem was even worse when I first tested a friend's FZ1 and reported about it on the forum. Although there was a very slight improvement made in this regard to the FZ10, the problem still persisted, and I personally was met with a wall of indignation and denial from many owners, everytime I kept asking Panasonic to correct it. It is clearly a flaw in the design of the FZ10, and aside from the numerous angry, and sometimes insulting responses to my claims, there were individuals such as Walter who confirmed that this very problem still existed on the FZ10 as well.

Had a similar problem been found with the A1, there would have been hundreds of unrelenting complaints on this Minolta Forum demanding that Minolta fix this unquestionable design flaw. They would not put their heads in the sand and claim that it is all just a figment of my imagination.

I believe I was the one who first labeled the FZ10 as being a great Outdoor camera. And I still believe that. As you may recall, I returned my camera because of the unusual problem of a sticky shutter. I have since decided to wait for the next generation of the camera to be released, in the hope that the problem will have been corrected by Panasonic. If it has, then I will probably buy one again.

Everything I have ever said about the FZ10 since then on this forum and others has been both honest and fair. I've always said it as I saw it. The fact is, I loved the camera while I owned it, but I was not prepared to almost totally limit myself to outdoor shooting because of its poor EVF design.

Now, since there have been only a few complaints other than mine, there is little incentive for Panasonic to correct this design flaw. FZ10 owners have kept denying that the problem even exists. So why should they fix it? In short, FZ10 owners have shot themselves in the foot.

Luckily, most FZ10 users are mainly Outdoor photographers. But for me, it is useful only as a second camera - when I want the extra 200mm - 420mm reach of its lens. Having an A1 as my prime camera, that reach would only be needed outdoors.
Best regards,
Barry

Kirwin said:

Hi Berry,

I decided to post these images based on your statement that the
FZ10 could not focus 15' away from a window source. The sample
images that I have posted are from 37' away (no flash) with the
window behind my back. The 1st image was taken at 35mm. The
second image was taken at 420mm from the same location of the first
image. I will agree the evf does dim AFTER I have framed my
subject (which is visible in the evf) and focus has locked but to
say that the FZ10 cannot do what you ask at 15' is incorrect.

As you have stated previously on other posts... the FZ10 you
purchased was defective. It is very possible there were more
issues with your camera than you were possibly aware. If you truly
like this camera... you really should give it a second chance
instead of pronouncing the camera incapable of doing what you ask
of it. You are more than welcome to view my gallery taken with the
FZ10 since the following images do not do justice of the
capabilities of this camera. Access to my gallery can be found at
the bottom of this message below my signature. If you would like
me to conduct an additional test, I would be more than happy to
oblige.

Regards,
Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com

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Hi Barry...

Sorry of mispelling your name.

I do not understand what you are seeing as a TV. The first image was taken with the focus point on the vacuum cleaner in the closet. The second image was again taken with the focus point in the closet. If you are referring to the the monitor on the right hand side of the first image... this was not the focus point.
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Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com

I have both the Minolta A1 and the Panasonic FZ10. The A1 handles much more like an SLR and has a host of setup options to enable you to obtain superb images (I don't use still cameras for videos). I love the manual zoom ring, which is more like my Minolta Maxxum 9 system (I'm waiting with great anticipation for KonicaMinolta's DSLR!).

So why do I have the FZ10? I'm a keen nature photographer and that superb 12x stabilised Leica zoom lens is the key attraction, especially at the very attractive price for this camera.

Interestingly, I took both cameras to a wedding recently and ended up using the FZ10 most of the time because the extra reach of that lens gave me much more intimate and interesting images from where I was sitting and standing. The images needed very little PS processing. The FZ10 is definitely a fun camera to use (and that lens!!), but the A1 lends itself to more allround creative photography because you have more control. I enjoy both.

Cheers from downunder NZ

Eb

mondamin said:

I meant to ask one more question... is shutter lag on the A1 or A2
a problem? Doing a lot of action photography, it's important...

Frank

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ebjust

Eb...was the wedding indoors or outdoors? I'd love to see a couple of the photos.

Thanks,
Lee

Eb Just said:

So why do I have the FZ10? I'm a keen nature photographer and that
superb 12x stabilised Leica zoom lens is the key attraction,
especially at the very attractive price for this camera.

Interestingly, I took both cameras to a wedding recently and ended
up using the FZ10 most of the time because the extra reach of that
lens gave me much more intimate and interesting images from where I
was sitting and standing. The images needed very little PS
processing. The FZ10 is definitely a fun camera to use (and that
lens!!), but the A1 lends itself to more allround creative
photography because you have more control. I enjoy both.

Cheers from downunder NZ

Eb

mondamin said:

I meant to ask one more question... is shutter lag on the A1 or A2
a problem? Doing a lot of action photography, it's important...

Frank

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ebjust

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Barry Kernerman said:

Since I've stopped participating in discussions there I have yet to see a single complaint about this problem

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you'd see it from me. tho i keep it to a minimum cause others seem to be doing so well and i don't wanna be a spoil-sport.

Barry Kernerman said:

the EVF/LCD goes totally black in what I would consider to be low (but not dark) indoor light levels.

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. ::nodding::

Barry Kernerman said:

When that happens, the camera's AF is simply unable to
obtain focus, and in any case, even if it could, it would be still
be impossible to frame the image because the EVF/LCD had gone
black. Introducing a small amount of light such as the light from
a distant TV provides enough light for the AF to operate as well as
to see the subject through the very dim viewfinder.

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don't know if mine is slightly defective or what..not only does it have a tough time without a Direct light source, but even in well-lighted rooms the AF sometimes 'grinds' continuously, never finding its focus.

Barry Kernerman said:

This problem was even worse when I first tested a friend's FZ1 and
reported about it on the forum. Although there was a very slight
improvement made in this regard to the FZ10, the problem still
persisted, and I personally was met with a wall of indignation and
denial from many owners, everytime I kept asking Panasonic to
correct it. It is clearly a flaw in the design of the FZ10, and
aside from the numerous angry, and sometimes insulting responses to
my claims, there were individuals such as Walter who confirmed that
this very problem still existed on the FZ10 as well.

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many folks are getting great shots with both FZs, Kirwin's are a big part of why i got an FZ10, from his very first photos. i've so far been unable to work up a lot of enthusiasm for it, but haven't given up. either there's sumthin wrong with the..i don't know what it is, but it's got to do with focus..or else i'm just too lame to use it correctly. always a possibility.

just know i had zero troubles with whatever i wanted to do with my S400 once i figured out the controls.

Barry Kernerman said:

The fact is, I loved the camera while I owned it, but I
was not prepared to almost totally limit myself to outdoor shooting

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that's what it's coming down to for me. and unfortunately i haven't been able to really 'get out there' as i'd planned - yet. still casting my hope on its wildlife shooting abilities. spent a few hours trying in the house again today..same results.

Karen