Is PSG 2 any good or not?

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I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
 
I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum
it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is
selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer
if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
Hi Al. While some are having problems, so far it's working quite well for me. No problems using the program. The only thing I've noticed so far is some very minor stuttering here and there on pc executables. I don't have a DVD burner yet, so I can't test that feature. Picture and sound quality on pc executables is terrific. VCD's played back on tv is pretty bad, but I believe that's the case with any of the slide show programs. SVCD is supposed to be better, but I've read that it can be a fussy format (my player doesn't play SVCD's so I can't test those either). I'd say try it and see how it works for you.
Jack
 
First of all, let me state that my target is DVD to be played on a Progressive Scan DVD player on an HDTV. I've tried the demo of Memories on TV, and while the UI is occaisionally frustrating, it performed flawlessly and was trivially easy to create a DVD with high quality.

What I REALLY want to be able to do, is to specify that my output format is WIDESCREEN (i.e. 16:9) and have the program adjust the output accordingly, giving me maximum resolution and quality. If that is do-able with PSG2, it would be reason enough to buy the product. I also like the idea of having a product created here in the States, if only for support reasons.

Nevertheless, I keep reading about all of the crashing and freezing with PSG2, and the majority of the raves are about how many more features it provides. Features are all well and good, EXCEPT if the product becomes too hard to use because there are too many features to deal with, or the product is just too unstable. In that case, I'll take the "simpler" program every time.

Having said that, I can comfortably state that I'm not a techno-novice. I like hi-tech more than most, and I have been a professional programmer since 1973. The industry I'm in is considered pretty high tech as well. That does NOT mean that I want to deal with program crashes or spending weeks learning the ins and outs of a program in order to produce a simple, elegant slide show. Quite the contrary. I have much better things to do with my time.

So, I'd love for someone to tell me why I'd be better off with PSG2, or to confirm my suspicions that, at least at this time, the extra money would not buy me anything that I'd need over Memories on TV.

Again, what I really NEED is to be able to produce slide shows targeted to 16:9 HDTVs. Does PSG2 have this capability? I could not determine this from the web site.

= Ed =
I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum
it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is
selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer
if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
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'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'
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Hey Albert,

I am a beta tester for PSG 2 so I am a little biased. What I can tell you though is that PSG 2 is a great program and all of the problems will be worked out shortly. Photodex is a company of their word and judging by their past, they will make this program as stable as the other programs they offer. Its not still in beta. The program works very very well for the beta testers so the next step is releasing the program. Of course, there are still going to be problem as with any new program. Beta testers dont have all of the configs out there so its impossible for Photodex to make sure it works with all of them. A lot of the problems have allready been solved and Photodex continues to release patches to address the rest of the problems. Unlike some companies that will only release a patch after they get numerous problems, Photodex releases patches even if it only fixes 1 problem. This may appear as if the program has many bugs, but what it shows is the dedication of Photodex to make sure the program is the best it can be and for it to get there as quickly as possible instead of having to wait months for a patch. Thats why you will see several new version and you will see them frequently and fast until the program is extremely stable. After that, you will see new versions that will add features.

Jason
I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum
it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is
selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer
if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
 
Yes, you can create widescreen (16:9) DVD's with Proshow Gold 2 and it will format the photos for you.

Jason
What I REALLY want to be able to do, is to specify that my output
format is WIDESCREEN (i.e. 16:9) and have the program adjust the
output accordingly, giving me maximum resolution and quality. If
that is do-able with PSG2, it would be reason enough to buy the
product. I also like the idea of having a product created here in
the States, if only for support reasons.

Nevertheless, I keep reading about all of the crashing and freezing
with PSG2, and the majority of the raves are about how many more
features it provides. Features are all well and good, EXCEPT if
the product becomes too hard to use because there are too many
features to deal with, or the product is just too unstable. In
that case, I'll take the "simpler" program every time.

Having said that, I can comfortably state that I'm not a
techno-novice. I like hi-tech more than most, and I have been a
professional programmer since 1973. The industry I'm in is
considered pretty high tech as well. That does NOT mean that I
want to deal with program crashes or spending weeks learning the
ins and outs of a program in order to produce a simple, elegant
slide show. Quite the contrary. I have much better things to do
with my time.

So, I'd love for someone to tell me why I'd be better off with
PSG2, or to confirm my suspicions that, at least at this time, the
extra money would not buy me anything that I'd need over Memories
on TV.

Again, what I really NEED is to be able to produce slide shows
targeted to 16:9 HDTVs. Does PSG2 have this capability? I could
not determine this from the web site.

= Ed =
I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum
it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is
selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer
if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
--
= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'
http://www.edrotberg.org/gallery
 
For those that have trouble with their DVD players playing the SVCD format, may I heartly recommend getting down to your nearest Walmart and purchasing a $30 Apex brand DVD player. It will play just about any kind of disc you might put in it (including SVCD format) and the quality is remarkably good. I have both an Apex AD 1000 and a newer AD-1110 and both are great! The 1110 will even play a slideshow from plain old .jpg files just burned to a CD-R. MP3, DVD, CD-R, CD-RW... heck... I'll bet it would play a frozen toaster waffle if it would fit in the tray!

For just about $100 you could have an Apex player and ProShow Gold v2.0. You'd be a very happy camper -- I am!

--
  • Rick
http://www.pbase.com/truelight
 
I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum
it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is
selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer
if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
It absolutely hasn't worked for me as a DVD creator. Every new build gets worse on my system. 1526 now crashes the the desktop when starting the DVD burn. At least it doesn't make a coaster before crashing now...

On a positive note they refunded my money without argument when I said I wasn't going to pay to be a beta tester.
 
After giving up on ps2 I emailed them about the time frame to get 16:9 support and they replied they estimated a may/june time frame for this ability.
Jason
What I REALLY want to be able to do, is to specify that my output
format is WIDESCREEN (i.e. 16:9) and have the program adjust the
output accordingly, giving me maximum resolution and quality. If
that is do-able with PSG2, it would be reason enough to buy the
product. I also like the idea of having a product created here in
the States, if only for support reasons.

Nevertheless, I keep reading about all of the crashing and freezing
with PSG2, and the majority of the raves are about how many more
features it provides. Features are all well and good, EXCEPT if
the product becomes too hard to use because there are too many
features to deal with, or the product is just too unstable. In
that case, I'll take the "simpler" program every time.

Having said that, I can comfortably state that I'm not a
techno-novice. I like hi-tech more than most, and I have been a
professional programmer since 1973. The industry I'm in is
considered pretty high tech as well. That does NOT mean that I
want to deal with program crashes or spending weeks learning the
ins and outs of a program in order to produce a simple, elegant
slide show. Quite the contrary. I have much better things to do
with my time.

So, I'd love for someone to tell me why I'd be better off with
PSG2, or to confirm my suspicions that, at least at this time, the
extra money would not buy me anything that I'd need over Memories
on TV.

Again, what I really NEED is to be able to produce slide shows
targeted to 16:9 HDTVs. Does PSG2 have this capability? I could
not determine this from the web site.

= Ed =
I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum
it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is
selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer
if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
--
= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'
http://www.edrotberg.org/gallery
 
Hey Albert,

I am a beta tester for PSG 2 so I am a little biased. What I can
.
.
.

One of the ways of increasing the number of tested configurations is to expand the base of beta testers. Also (and this is something I never see done with a lot of other beta programs), there ought to be a script of tests that needs to be done by the beta testers to ensure everything that needs to get tested gets tested.

I'll bet this community of forum readers and commenters could come up with such a list.

How does one become a beta testers?

Casey
 
Regarding...
It absolutely hasn't worked for me as a DVD creator. Every new
build gets worse on my system. 1526 now crashes the the desktop
when starting the DVD burn. At least it doesn't make a coaster
before crashing now...
...I started doing video editing for my local cable access station last year. I used a fairly good PC and bought cheap software to do the work. As I progressed and fought off all sorts of problems, the cost of my software kept growing. Finally, I had a fairly high-end video editing, DVD creation, and sound editing package from Adoble.

Guess what.

I still couldn't safely burn DVD's.

However, I did eventually find one program that worked and it became the ONLY program I use for burning DVD's.

With PSG2, I tried making a DVD and it didn't work. Based on my video experiences, that didn't suprise me. Nor was I disappointed. So, I made an MPG file instead, used my "good" DVD burning program, and I safely made DVD's of my slide shows.

I'm guessing that the Photodex folks are doing the best they can with DVD's. Cut them some slack. If you look at video editing website and user fora, you'll find a lot of DVD problems at all levels of software quality. Many of the DVD programs cost three times as much as PSG and the ONLY thing the do is burn DVD's.

DVD stuff is tough.

Casey
 
You know, I dont have a widescreen TV, but there is a setting for widescreen in PSG. I have never really used it because I have no need. This may be an oversight on my part. I just created one and it does have black bars on both sides of the image while viewing it on my computer so I guess its not really creating a widescreen...at least not formatting the image to make it fit the whole wide part of the screen.

My apologies.

Jason
Jason
What I REALLY want to be able to do, is to specify that my output
format is WIDESCREEN (i.e. 16:9) and have the program adjust the
output accordingly, giving me maximum resolution and quality. If
that is do-able with PSG2, it would be reason enough to buy the
product. I also like the idea of having a product created here in
the States, if only for support reasons.

Nevertheless, I keep reading about all of the crashing and freezing
with PSG2, and the majority of the raves are about how many more
features it provides. Features are all well and good, EXCEPT if
the product becomes too hard to use because there are too many
features to deal with, or the product is just too unstable. In
that case, I'll take the "simpler" program every time.

Having said that, I can comfortably state that I'm not a
techno-novice. I like hi-tech more than most, and I have been a
professional programmer since 1973. The industry I'm in is
considered pretty high tech as well. That does NOT mean that I
want to deal with program crashes or spending weeks learning the
ins and outs of a program in order to produce a simple, elegant
slide show. Quite the contrary. I have much better things to do
with my time.

So, I'd love for someone to tell me why I'd be better off with
PSG2, or to confirm my suspicions that, at least at this time, the
extra money would not buy me anything that I'd need over Memories
on TV.

Again, what I really NEED is to be able to produce slide shows
targeted to 16:9 HDTVs. Does PSG2 have this capability? I could
not determine this from the web site.

= Ed =
I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum
it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is
selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer
if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
--
= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'
http://www.edrotberg.org/gallery
 
Yes, it does appear to be a tough ride. I still cant get Pinnacle Studio 9 to render a DVD successfully. It crashes everytime I go to render some video. Of course, version 8 was a horrible mess so I guess Pinnacle carried the mess to version 9.

I only have Pinnacle 9 because someone bought it and could not get it to work and gave it to me. For video, I use Vegas 4 and either Ulead Movie Factory 3 or DVD Workshop, both of which do fantastic at burning the movies to DVD.

Jason
...I started doing video editing for my local cable access station
last year. I used a fairly good PC and bought cheap software to do
the work. As I progressed and fought off all sorts of problems, the
cost of my software kept growing. Finally, I had a fairly high-end
video editing, DVD creation, and sound editing package from Adoble.

Guess what.

I still couldn't safely burn DVD's.

However, I did eventually find one program that worked and it
became the ONLY program I use for burning DVD's.

With PSG2, I tried making a DVD and it didn't work. Based on my
video experiences, that didn't suprise me. Nor was I disappointed.
So, I made an MPG file instead, used my "good" DVD burning program,
and I safely made DVD's of my slide shows.

I'm guessing that the Photodex folks are doing the best they can
with DVD's. Cut them some slack. If you look at video editing
website and user fora, you'll find a lot of DVD problems at all
levels of software quality. Many of the DVD programs cost three
times as much as PSG and the ONLY thing the do is burn DVD's.

DVD stuff is tough.

Casey
 
CaseyD wrote:
...I started doing video editing for my local cable access station
last year. I used a fairly good PC and bought cheap software to do
the work. As I progressed and fought off all sorts of problems, the
cost of my software kept growing. Finally, I had a fairly high-end
video editing, DVD creation, and sound editing package from Adoble.

Guess what.

I still couldn't safely burn DVD's.

However, I did eventually find one program that worked and it
became the ONLY program I use for burning DVD's.

With PSG2, I tried making a DVD and it didn't work. Based on my
video experiences, that didn't suprise me. Nor was I disappointed.
So, I made an MPG file instead, used my "good" DVD burning program,
and I safely made DVD's of my slide shows.

I'm guessing that the Photodex folks are doing the best they can
with DVD's. Cut them some slack. If you look at video editing
website and user fora, you'll find a lot of DVD problems at all
levels of software quality. Many of the DVD programs cost three
times as much as PSG and the ONLY thing the do is burn DVD's.

DVD stuff is tough.

Casey
Casey, which program are you using to burn your DVD's? I'm getting ready to add a burner to my pc. Don't know until then if PSG will work for me or not (so far it's working well).
Jack
 
I understand your point but I don't want to have to use Nero/Roxio/Pinnacle/whateverotherdvd burningsoftwareisoutthere to burn my slide shows. I want to be able to click 'go', go do my grocery shopping and come home to a cleanly burned dvd. If proshow can't deliver on reliable DVD burning it shouldn't be advertised as a feature. Nero burns DVDs just great (not one coaster out of 200+ disks). If I pay for a product I expect it to be able to do what it advertises it is capable of. 'Cutting them some slack' is just encouraging software developers to continue to foist immature code upon the paying customer.
Regarding...

...I started doing video editing for my local cable access station
last year. I used a fairly good PC and bought cheap software to do
the work. As I progressed and fought off all sorts of problems, the
cost of my software kept growing. Finally, I had a fairly high-end
video editing, DVD creation, and sound editing package from Adoble.

Guess what.

I still couldn't safely burn DVD's.

However, I did eventually find one program that worked and it
became the ONLY program I use for burning DVD's.

With PSG2, I tried making a DVD and it didn't work. Based on my
video experiences, that didn't suprise me. Nor was I disappointed.
So, I made an MPG file instead, used my "good" DVD burning program,
and I safely made DVD's of my slide shows.

I'm guessing that the Photodex folks are doing the best they can
with DVD's. Cut them some slack. If you look at video editing
website and user fora, you'll find a lot of DVD problems at all
levels of software quality. Many of the DVD programs cost three
times as much as PSG and the ONLY thing the do is burn DVD's.

DVD stuff is tough.

Casey
 
Well, if what you say is true then no software should advertise that it can burn DVD's because if you go to any Nero forum you will see people there having problems with Nero and burning DVD's. I've read many where people just cuss that program out. I have only used it a couple of times so cant really comment on it myself. I use Sonic Record Now and it has never let me down either. I guess you just have to try until you get one that works. Good thing most companies offer trial versions. But I know PSG 2 works because I have burned quite a few DVD's and have read here where many have done so also.

Just my thoughts
Jason
Regarding...

...I started doing video editing for my local cable access station
last year. I used a fairly good PC and bought cheap software to do
the work. As I progressed and fought off all sorts of problems, the
cost of my software kept growing. Finally, I had a fairly high-end
video editing, DVD creation, and sound editing package from Adoble.

Guess what.

I still couldn't safely burn DVD's.

However, I did eventually find one program that worked and it
became the ONLY program I use for burning DVD's.

With PSG2, I tried making a DVD and it didn't work. Based on my
video experiences, that didn't suprise me. Nor was I disappointed.
So, I made an MPG file instead, used my "good" DVD burning program,
and I safely made DVD's of my slide shows.

I'm guessing that the Photodex folks are doing the best they can
with DVD's. Cut them some slack. If you look at video editing
website and user fora, you'll find a lot of DVD problems at all
levels of software quality. Many of the DVD programs cost three
times as much as PSG and the ONLY thing the do is burn DVD's.

DVD stuff is tough.

Casey
 
last year. I used a fairly good PC and bought cheap software to do
the work. As I progressed and fought off all sorts of problems, the
cost of my software kept growing. Finally, I had a fairly high-end
video editing, DVD creation, and sound editing package from Adoble.

Guess what.

I still couldn't safely burn DVD's.

However, I did eventually find one program that worked and it
became the ONLY program I use for burning DVD's.

With PSG2, I tried making a DVD and it didn't work. Based on my
video experiences, that didn't suprise me. Nor was I disappointed.
So, I made an MPG file instead, used my "good" DVD burning program,
and I safely made DVD's of my slide shows.

I'm guessing that the Photodex folks are doing the best they can
with DVD's. Cut them some slack. If you look at video editing
website and user fora, you'll find a lot of DVD problems at all
levels of software quality. Many of the DVD programs cost three
times as much as PSG and the ONLY thing the do is burn DVD's.

DVD stuff is tough.

Casey
Casey, which program are you using to burn your DVD's? I'm getting
ready to add a burner to my pc. Don't know until then if PSG will
work for me or not (so far it's working well).
Jack
I use Sonic's DVDit SE. I just checked one of the websites and it sells for about $250. I got my copy bundled with Adobe Premier 6.5.

As far as help wit DVD's is concerned, there's some compatibility information on...

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

I don't know if this will help.
 
Just got this reply to a query from Memories on TV:
Hey Ed,
Thank you for your query.

We've just finished implementing the 16:9 feature, actually. It's not
available in the current release, but will be in the next free update
(version 2.2).

Currently, we're waiting to finish up some other features before releasing
version 2.2. We'll keep you posted.

Regards,
  • Casey
PictureToTV support
So, not only would I get the multiple pan/zoom stages within a single slide, but it looks like they will have this capability son. Granted it could be marketing-speak, but it's encouraging.

I'll download the trial of PSG2 and see what it offers, but I'm still leaning towards MOT.

= Ed =
My apologies.

Jason
Jason
What I REALLY want to be able to do, is to specify that my output
format is WIDESCREEN (i.e. 16:9) and have the program adjust the
output accordingly, giving me maximum resolution and quality. If
that is do-able with PSG2, it would be reason enough to buy the
product. I also like the idea of having a product created here in
the States, if only for support reasons.

Nevertheless, I keep reading about all of the crashing and freezing
with PSG2, and the majority of the raves are about how many more
features it provides. Features are all well and good, EXCEPT if
the product becomes too hard to use because there are too many
features to deal with, or the product is just too unstable. In
that case, I'll take the "simpler" program every time.

Having said that, I can comfortably state that I'm not a
techno-novice. I like hi-tech more than most, and I have been a
professional programmer since 1973. The industry I'm in is
considered pretty high tech as well. That does NOT mean that I
want to deal with program crashes or spending weeks learning the
ins and outs of a program in order to produce a simple, elegant
slide show. Quite the contrary. I have much better things to do
with my time.

So, I'd love for someone to tell me why I'd be better off with
PSG2, or to confirm my suspicions that, at least at this time, the
extra money would not buy me anything that I'd need over Memories
on TV.

Again, what I really NEED is to be able to produce slide shows
targeted to 16:9 HDTVs. Does PSG2 have this capability? I could
not determine this from the web site.

= Ed =
I am interested in buying PSG 2 but from what I read on this forum
it isn't very good. Some think it is still in BETA although it is
selling for $70.00. So I would really like to get a final answer
if it is worth the money or not.

Thanks

Al
--
= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'
http://www.edrotberg.org/gallery
--
= Ed Rotberg =

'A waist is a terrible thing to mind'
http://www.edrotberg.org/gallery
 
last year. I used a fairly good PC and bought cheap software to do
the work. As I progressed and fought off all sorts of problems, the
cost of my software kept growing. Finally, I had a fairly high-end
video editing, DVD creation, and sound editing package from Adoble.

Guess what.

I still couldn't safely burn DVD's.

However, I did eventually find one program that worked and it
became the ONLY program I use for burning DVD's.

With PSG2, I tried making a DVD and it didn't work. Based on my
video experiences, that didn't suprise me. Nor was I disappointed.
So, I made an MPG file instead, used my "good" DVD burning program,
and I safely made DVD's of my slide shows.

I'm guessing that the Photodex folks are doing the best they can
with DVD's. Cut them some slack. If you look at video editing
website and user fora, you'll find a lot of DVD problems at all
levels of software quality. Many of the DVD programs cost three
times as much as PSG and the ONLY thing the do is burn DVD's.

DVD stuff is tough.

Casey
Casey, which program are you using to burn your DVD's? I'm getting
ready to add a burner to my pc. Don't know until then if PSG will
work for me or not (so far it's working well).
Jack
I use Sonic's DVDit SE. I just checked one of the websites and it
sells for about $250. I got my copy bundled with Adobe Premier 6.5.

As far as help wit DVD's is concerned, there's some compatibility
information on...

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

I don't know if this will help.
Thanks Casey.
 

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