How many of you

joe corey · Mar 24, 2004

Read your camera manuals? So many questions could be answered if people would just consult the manual! "How do I set shutter speeds manually?" "How do I change the WB on my 828?"
Come on people, read your manuals!

Rick Hutchinson · Mar 24, 2004

I played aroudn with the auto setting after reading the instructions about the ferrite core etc... for the 717 and then that night read the manual. Its really easy and short. Don't know why more people dont read it.

joecorey said:
Read your camera manuals? So many questions could be answered if
people would just consult the manual! "How do I set shutter speeds
manually?" "How do I change the WB on my 828?"
Come on people, read your manuals!

--
~~Rick~~

joe corey · Mar 24, 2004

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=8131828

joecorey said:
Read your camera manuals? So many questions could be answered if
people would just consult the manual! "How do I set shutter speeds
manually?" "How do I change the WB on my 828?"
Come on people, read your manuals!

Shay Stephens · Mar 24, 2004

I read the online version long before I even get the camera. Then I typically read the manual that comes with the camera too the day I get it. One really does themselves a disfavor by just jumping in. You waste time and are less effective longer than if one just reads the manual and becomes acquainted with every feature the camera has to offer.

joecorey said:
Read your camera manuals? So many questions could be answered if
people would just consult the manual! "How do I set shutter speeds
manually?" "How do I change the WB on my 828?"
Come on people, read your manuals!

--
Portfolio: http://www.shaystephens.com/portfolio.asp

joe corey · Mar 24, 2004

Shay Stephens said:
joecorey said:

Read your camera manuals? So many questions could be answered if
people would just consult the manual! "How do I set shutter speeds
manually?" "How do I change the WB on my 828?"
Come on people, read your manuals!

Click to expand...

--
Portfolio: http://www.shaystephens.com/portfolio.asp

Rick B · Mar 24, 2004

I work in technical support for a software sompany so your post just makes me want to say:

Tell me about it!

Most of my day is spent telling people information they already have.

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Rick B
http://www.pbase.com/ve3cnu/

joe corey · Mar 24, 2004

lol, I bet. that would drive me crazy, I commend you!

Rick B said:
I work in technical support for a software sompany so your post
just makes me want to say:

Tell me about it!

Most of my day is spent telling people information they already have.

--
Rick B
http://www.pbase.com/ve3cnu/

agodbie · Mar 24, 2004

in this case, i think that 'circle with X' isnt shown appropriately in the manual (its colored differently), that may have caused the confusion.

but indeed its always sensible to try something out yourselves before asking for help, but then again,

how many of us havent been as curious, inquisitive, and protective as little children are about precious new toys. not too many i hope, else this forum wouldnt be what it is today, at 600,000 messages.

ciao.

Shay Stephens said:
joecorey said:

Read your camera manuals? So many questions could be answered if
people would just consult the manual! "How do I set shutter speeds
manually?" "How do I change the WB on my 828?"
Come on people, read your manuals!

Click to expand...

--
Portfolio: http://www.shaystephens.com/portfolio.asp

Lenwoodbluz · Mar 24, 2004

first of all I was under the impression that no question is a stupid question... I have learned sooo much here and it's because of quick responses from helpful happy people... YES, people should read the manual but why condemn them for asking the question... If you don't want to respond to questions that are answered in the manual then don't respond ...but starting a thread and saying..."hey everyone, here's a link to someone who wasted my time and hasn't read his manual. He asked a stupid question!!!"

nothing good can come from this ...just hard feelings and probably an individual who will be very very reserved about posting here in the future.

I, for one, feel that any question is a good question...I rely on my stupid questions on a daily basis...my own personal survival technique......hehehehe

one last point to make....WHAT IF THE PERSON IS ILLITERATE... and is truely looking for help... let's try to help everyone... you never know when you'll need it in return.

play nice boys and girls and take a pic or two

--
LENWOODBLUZ........NO REGRETS

See My Not-So-Hot pics at

http://www.pbase.com/lenwoodbluz

I Be Using The F828.......AND I LOVE IT...DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT.....BUT I LOVE IT!!!!!

Rick B · Mar 24, 2004

perhaps, but many, and I dare say most people are too lazy too crack their manual when something puzzles them.

OTOH, manuals can be very difficult to understand.

--
Rick B
http://www.pbase.com/ve3cnu/

joe corey · Mar 24, 2004

LENWOODBLUZ said:
first of all I was under the impression that no question is a
stupid question...

I think there are definitely such a thing as stupid questions. Nice saying though.

YES, people should

Lenwoodbluz said:
read the manual but why condemn them for asking the question

Who's condemning? All I'm saying is people can answer their own questions often times if they just read the manual.

... If

Lenwoodbluz said:
you don't want to respond to questions that are answered in the
manual then don't respond ...but starting a thread and
saying..."hey everyone, here's a link to someone who wasted my time
and hasn't read his manual. He asked a stupid question!!!"

I do respond sometimes and he didn't waste my time as I didn't respond to him.

Lenwoodbluz said:
nothing good can come from this ...just hard feelings and probably
an individual who will be very very reserved about posting here in
the future.

Sure it can, people can read their manuals and learn more than they ever thought possible about their cameras

Lenwoodbluz said:
one last point to make....WHAT IF THE PERSON IS ILLITERATE... and
is truely looking for help... let's try to help everyone... you
never know when you'll need it in return.

If they are illiterate then how could they read anything in this forum???

DanC · Mar 24, 2004

I've read my manual probably 10 times or more. Still there's things in the manual that aren't explained properly or not at all. For instance, I've had my 717 for about 3 months now and shortly after I bought it, I couldn't figure out what that blue domed shaped icon was in the lower right hand corner of the lcd screen. A quick question on this forum answered it promptly. It was the jog dial icon. I've since seen this same question asked about half a dozen times. The point is that no question is too simple. There's just too many good folks on STF to ignore any question, no matter how obvious the answer is to you.

--
A picture is worth a thousand words, at least....

agodbie · Mar 24, 2004

LENWOODBLUZ said:
first of all I was under the impression that no question is a
stupid question... I have learned sooo much here and it's because
of quick responses from helpful happy people... YES, people should
read the manual but why condemn them for asking the question... If
you don't want to respond to questions that are answered in the
manual then don't respond ...but starting a thread and
saying..."hey everyone, here's a link to someone who wasted my time
and hasn't read his manual. He asked a stupid question!!!"

nothing good can come from this ...just hard feelings and probably
an individual who will be very very reserved about posting here in
the future.

I, for one, feel that any question is a good question...I rely on
my stupid questions on a daily basis...my own personal survival
technique......hehehehe

one last point to make....WHAT IF THE PERSON IS ILLITERATE... and
is truely looking for help... let's try to help everyone... you
never know when you'll need it in return.

play nice boys and girls and take a pic or two

--
LENWOODBLUZ........NO REGRETS

See My Not-So-Hot pics at

http://www.pbase.com/lenwoodbluz

I Be Using The F828.......AND I LOVE IT...DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE
IT.....BUT I LOVE IT!!!!!

duckboy · Mar 24, 2004

go here: http://www.shawn64.com/mochastorage/cgtn.html

it's frequently linked to from the http://www.megatokyo.com forums.

(and to those who are gonna flame joe - our real pet peeve shouldn't be people who haven't read the manual - it should be people who don't use the forum search. the FIRST person to ask a 'dumb' question isn't dumb at all. the FIFTH is: what's that little hand mean again? can i put a non-sony flash on my hotshoe? will my 62,000 volt flash be bad for my camera? can sony make cameras that take real pictures? what's a good tripod? what's a good flash?)

agodbie · Mar 24, 2004

bottomline:

if ya want to avoid a n00b, avoid large forums and replying to obvious n00by messages ! lol

duckboy said:
go here: http://www.shawn64.com/mochastorage/cgtn.html

it's frequently linked to from the http://www.megatokyo.com forums.

(and to those who are gonna flame joe - our real pet peeve
shouldn't be people who haven't read the manual - it should be
people who don't use the forum search. the FIRST person to ask a
'dumb' question isn't dumb at all. the FIFTH is: what's that
little hand mean again? can i put a non-sony flash on my hotshoe?
will my 62,000 volt flash be bad for my camera? can sony make
cameras that take real pictures? what's a good tripod? what's a
good flash?)

duckboy · Mar 24, 2004

joe corey said:
joe corey said:

one last point to make....WHAT IF THE PERSON IS ILLITERATE... and
is truely looking for help... let's try to help everyone... you
never know when you'll need it in return.

Click to expand...

If they are illiterate then how could they read anything in this
forum???

hehe...that was my first thought.
braille on the drive-up atm, wut wut?

Ulysses · Mar 24, 2004

Heheheh... you probably actually CHEW your food, too. Don'tcha??? ;-)

Shay Stephens said:
I read the online version long before I even get the camera. Then
I typically read the manual that comes with the camera too the day
I get it. One really does themselves a disfavor by just jumping
in. You waste time and are less effective longer than if one just
reads the manual and becomes acquainted with every feature the
camera has to offer.

--

Ulysses
http://www.ulyssesphotography.com

nand · Mar 24, 2004

But now reading the HVL-F32X flash manual it says on page 15: Be sure that the “Hot Shoe” is set to OFF in the “SET UP” setting. And under trouble shooting on page 28 it reads: Make sure that the “Hot Shoe” on the digital still camera is not set to OFF. The exact opposite.

Anyway, since the F32X doesn’t have a hot shoe contact but a several other contacts instead, the hot shoe setting in the camera should be set to OFF in order for the F32X to work. It should be set to on for flashes that actually do have a real hot shoe contact in the centre.

This particular manual leaves a lot to be desired. The flash on the other hand is great.

Nand.

joecorey said:
Read your camera manuals? So many questions could be answered if
people would just consult the manual! "How do I set shutter speeds
manually?" "How do I change the WB on my 828?"
Come on people, read your manuals!

Lenwoodbluz · Mar 24, 2004

joe corey said:
joe corey said:

one last point to make....WHAT IF THE PERSON IS ILLITERATE... and
is truely looking for help... let's try to help everyone... you
never know when you'll need it in return.

Click to expand...

If they are illiterate then how could they read anything in this
forum???

I'm glad you caught that...Cause i missed it when i wrote it.....perfect example of a stupid statement....ha ha ha ....can't beleive i wrote that.....that's hillarious

take care....(still laughing....)
--
LENWOODBLUZ........NO REGRETS

See My Not-So-Hot pics at

http://www.pbase.com/lenwoodbluz

I Be Using The F828.......AND I LOVE IT...DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT.....BUT I LOVE IT!!!!!

joe corey · Mar 24, 2004

OT, I like your pictures

LENWOODBLUZ said:
Lenwoodbluz said:

Lenwoodbluz said:

one last point to make....WHAT IF THE PERSON IS ILLITERATE... and
is truely looking for help... let's try to help everyone... you
never know when you'll need it in return.

Click to expand...

If they are illiterate then how could they read anything in this
forum???

Click to expand...

I'm glad you caught that...Cause i missed it when i wrote
it.....perfect example of a stupid statement....ha ha ha ....can't
beleive i wrote that.....that's hillarious

take care....(still laughing....)
--
LENWOODBLUZ........NO REGRETS

See My Not-So-Hot pics at

http://www.pbase.com/lenwoodbluz

I Be Using The F828.......AND I LOVE IT...DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE
IT.....BUT I LOVE IT!!!!!

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