Kyocera M410R

Scotty S · Mar 20, 2004

Thought I would stick on these links for anyone who would like a look at what seems to be a great new camera, still no samples ? Scott.

http://www.pixmania.com/dev/gui_web/shopping/index.php?fuseaction=voir_fiche_article&article=42476&srcid=3&oldlangue=uk&oldlangueparle=uk
http://www.presse.kyocera-europe.com/Pressem_Eng8.php

digital_ray_of_light · Mar 21, 2004

it is indeed an intriguing camera so far...

do you know if that ring on the lens is a zoom/focus ring or just decoration?

Scotty S said:
Thought I would stick on these links for anyone who would like a
look at what seems to be a great new camera, still no samples ?
Scott.

http://www.pixmania.com/dev/gui_web/shopping/index.php?fuseaction=voir_fiche_article&article=42476&srcid=3&oldlangue=uk&oldlangueparle=uk
http://www.presse.kyocera-europe.com/Pressem_Eng8.php

Scotty S · Mar 21, 2004

digital_ray_of_light said:
it is indeed an intriguing camera so far...

do you know if that ring on the lens is a zoom/focus ring or just
decoration?

Hi, not sure about the ring, I think it is there to help the look and I can not tell anything by looking at the spec. but I would like it even more if it is for the zoom, I am sure we will find out soon ( I hope ??? ). Scott.

davisdog · Mar 21, 2004

Hopefully the availability date of Mar29 that is listed no the first webpage is accurate...can't wait for reviews (prerelease says avail end of march)

-steve

Scotty S said:
Thought I would stick on these links for anyone who would like a
look at what seems to be a great new camera, still no samples ?
Scott.

http://www.pixmania.com/dev/gui_web/shopping/index.php?fuseaction=voir_fiche_article&article=42476&srcid=3&oldlangue=uk&oldlangueparle=uk
http://www.presse.kyocera-europe.com/Pressem_Eng8.php

Rome A · Mar 21, 2004

Tele @ 10 x, I wish it is equip with IS, then, it would be a killer !!!

rome a

Scotty S said:
Thought I would stick on these links for anyone who would like a
look at what seems to be a great new camera, still no samples ?
Scott.

http://www.pixmania.com/dev/gui_web/shopping/index.php?fuseaction=voir_fiche_article&article=42476&srcid=3&oldlangue=uk&oldlangueparle=uk
http://www.presse.kyocera-europe.com/Pressem_Eng8.php

Scotty S · Mar 22, 2004

Rome A said:
Tele @ 10 x, I wish it is equip with IS, then, it would be a killer
!!!

rome a

It would have been fantastic if it had IS but the price would have jumped up and it is not bad at the price quoted, also I have just found out that the video mode has a 720x1280 at 15fps, quite a good extra.

Scott.

Rome A said:
Scotty S said:

Thought I would stick on these links for anyone who would like a
look at what seems to be a great new camera, still no samples ?
Scott.

http://www.pixmania.com/dev/gui_web/shopping/index.php?fuseaction=voir_fiche_article&article=42476&srcid=3&oldlangue=uk&oldlangueparle=uk
http://www.presse.kyocera-europe.com/Pressem_Eng8.php

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wolfie · Mar 23, 2004

digital_ray_of_light said:
it is indeed an intriguing camera so far...

do you know if that ring on the lens is a zoom/focus ring or just
decoration?

On the M410R - it comes with a lens cover with a 52mm filter fitting at the end - nice. Also means the lens is left in an extended postion when powered down for faster power up response time.

Diamond2a · Mar 23, 2004

that 1/2.7 inch sensor is small on 3 Mp cameras, with 4mp, noise sadlly will probably be through the roof

Scotty S said:
Thought I would stick on these links for anyone who would like a
look at what seems to be a great new camera, still no samples ?
Scott.

http://www.pixmania.com/dev/gui_web/shopping/index.php?fuseaction=voir_fiche_article&article=42476&srcid=3&oldlangue=uk&oldlangueparle=uk
http://www.presse.kyocera-europe.com/Pressem_Eng8.php

digital_ray_of_light · Mar 24, 2004

wolfie said:
digital_ray_of_light said:

it is indeed an intriguing camera so far...

do you know if that ring on the lens is a zoom/focus ring or just
decoration?

Click to expand...

On the M410R - it comes with a lens cover with a 52mm filter
fitting at the end - nice. Also means the lens is left in an
extended postion when powered down for faster power up response
time.

yes, that's all good, but what I am asking is whether that is a zoom/focus ring or simply decoration (like the Fuji S5000). I haven't seen any pics of the back of the camera - zoom buttons would mean that that is not a zoom ring.

LaMesa · Mar 24, 2004

Diamond2A said:
that 1/2.7 inch sensor is small on 3 Mp cameras, with 4mp, noise
sadlly will probably be through the roof

Not nescessarily. The Olympus C-750UZ's 4MP sensor is the same size and delivers beautiful pictures. I am very interested in the M410R, too.

Best Regards, Herbert

http://www.pbase.com/herbRD

nijhtmajick · Mar 29, 2004

Yes, I too am very much interested in this camera. I still don't see any samples yet but looks like it is now trickling into the retailers.

http://www.adorama.com/IYSM410R.html?searchinfo=kyocera&item_no=7

LaMesa · Mar 30, 2004

nijhtmajick said:
Yes, I too am very much interested in this camera. I still don't
see any samples yet but looks like it is now trickling into the
retailers.

http://www.adorama.com/IYSM410R.html?searchinfo=kyocera&item_no=7

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http://www.pbase.com/herbRD

I just talked with Kyocera Germany. The M410R will not be available here in Germany before the end of April (2004).

Herbert

http://www.pbase.com/herbRD

RobN · Apr 2, 2004

nijhtmajick said:
Yes, I too am very much interested in this camera. I still don't
see any samples yet but looks like it is now trickling into the

Some sample pics can be seen at:

http://www.kyoceraimaging.com/gallery.asp?itemnum=300390

and

http://www.pbase.com/picwork/inbox

I think those samples don't look so bad. I especially like the one with the strawberries.

What I don't like... according to the specs on the Kyocera US site the M410R does NOT seem to have manual focus or manual exposure mode!

However, the PDF brochure on Kyocera's German site says it does have AF or manual focus as well as shutter/aperture priority modes and full manual exposure control.

Now, who's right?

LaMesa · Apr 2, 2004

Thanks for the links, RobN,

I agree that the first samples don't look bad at all. With all due caution, noise and CA look good, especially since most pictures were taken with f=2.8.

Different from other cameras' first samples, there is nothing terrible to be seen. More samples are highly welcome!

From all publications I take it that the M410R does have both manual exposure modes and manual focus.

Herbert

RobN said:
nijhtmajick said:

Yes, I too am very much interested in this camera. I still don't
see any samples yet but looks like it is now trickling into the

Click to expand...

Some sample pics can be seen at:

http://www.kyoceraimaging.com/gallery.asp?itemnum=300390

and

http://www.pbase.com/picwork/inbox

I think those samples don't look so bad. I especially like the one
with the strawberries.

What I don't like... according to the specs on the Kyocera US site
the M410R does NOT seem to have manual focus or manual exposure
mode!

However, the PDF brochure on Kyocera's German site says it does
have AF or manual focus as well as shutter/aperture priority modes
and full manual exposure control.

Now, who's right?

--
http://www.pbase.com/herbRD

Tony Sx · Apr 2, 2004

Apart from the body colour, is there any difference between the 2 cameras?

davisdog · Apr 2, 2004

Tony Sx said:
Apart from the body colour, is there any difference between the 2
cameras?

The 400R doesnt have the extended lens tube (nor the ring on the end to attach accessories/filters). The tube lets the 410R keep its lens a little further out resulting in faster start up times. There may be a few other differences but nothing major from what I've seen on the web (still dying to see a site get a sample and review it.

wolfie · Apr 3, 2004

I thought the sky looked a bit noisy in the first sample, however it would be great to see a reputable site test it. Looks like someone has thought carefully through the features - fast start up, minimal shutter lag, fast AF, standard filter size adapter, USB 2.0. Good selection of modes. Compact size and wonder of wonders: AA batteries!

Only weakness is no hot shoe but not a deal breaker. Thankfully no IS - another thing to complicate and go wrong.
Is it going to rain on the Olympus C 770 parade?!

Ramblin · Apr 4, 2004

Wow! Any other than non DSLR cams that do this? Wonder if it's usable?
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Olympus C5050, Panasonic FZ1, FZ10K, Oly Tcon 1.7
http://www.pbase.com/ramblin_mo/galleries

RobN · Apr 8, 2004

Minolta 7Hi/A1/A2, Fuji S5000/S7000/S20pro, ...

I think most of the newer "prosumer style" cams should have ISO800. I've seen a pic or two shot with the A1 at ISO800 - not really usable, way too much noise. I don't think the M410R will be that much better.

Ramblin said:
Wow! Any other than non DSLR cams that do this? Wonder if it's usable?

RobN · Apr 8, 2004

LaMesa said:
From all publications I take it that the M410R does have both
manual exposure modes and manual focus.

I sure hope so.. can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Unfortunately, there still aren't any more samples or reviews in sight.

Robert

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