Pro 1 - Day 2 (Better Pics)

PhillipsArt · Mar 20, 2004

Hi.

Sorry about the EXIF partly missing on some of the photos, I don't know why it did that. I will upload the rest of the info on the web shortly.

As you can see the Pro 1 is not as lousy as what some say it is at action events. Well it's not for me, for some I would imagine it would be. I use to be a press photographer. Now It's mostly a hobby for me. Although I do take wedding photos. I enjoy it. Love the challenge. To me I like challenging situations, it's keeps me interested more in photography.

I must admit though I took about 10 photos to get these few good ones. the others where out of focus or missed the bike, but I get that with my SLR as well. atleast I can delete them on my digital camera. I am still trying to work out if the Auto focusing is best or manual, some of the photos are in auto focus some in manual. I will go back next week & try again. Actualy I am surprised how well the auto focus did perform on some of the bike shots. I did not expect it to perform as well as it did.

The tower clock, I used a Tripod, I did not use tripod on the bike photos. the rest of the info should be up online now.

b-rock said:
I thought the shot of the clock tower was superb. Lovely color and
composition. Can you tell more about the lighting and camera
settings, tripod, etc. The EXIF file seems incomplete.

Phillipda said:

Hello. I have uplaoded a few pictures I have taken with my Pro 1 as
mentioned on my earlier post onto my own homepage. Due to people
having to have to join the site where I originaly postes the
photos. You will now be able to view the photos without having to
join any sites.

http://www.phillipsart.net/Art.htm

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PhillipsArt · Mar 20, 2004

Hi Mike. your right there about the auto focusing but I did find a way around the problem. all I did was pressed the shutter half way down before the bike got to the point where I wanted the photo taken I than pressed the shutter button fully about a half second or so before she got to the point , by the time she got there The camera focused at that right moment. It did take practise to get the timing right.

On all the photos I used the EVF. I would never use the LCD in these situations because there is no way of holding the camera steady enough while panning, you need a very smooth & steady flowing motion. I can't see how that would be possible if you dont hold the camera corectly,

You know I was stumped for weeks deciding which camera to buy. I was looking at the Canon 300D, 10D or Pro 1. in the end I decided to go for the Pro 1 because of it's features & mainly compact size, I am sick of carrying so much gear with me all the time. I plan to start doing some bushwalking with a backpack so the compact & light Pro 1 will be perfect for me in those situations.

My other Camera is a Canon EOS5 with L lens. so I have all the lens for the 300D or 10D, as I said I don't want to carry so much gear around anymore. I am not as young as I use to be.

Mike Hunt said:
b-rock said:

The cyclist shots were exactly the ones the Pro1 is supposed to be
lousy at. So, are these testimony to your skill, your luck, or were
people wrong about the camera?

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The subject was predictable, so he was able to prefocus on the
desired spot, then waited until the cyclist came by, and panned the
camera with the cyclist as she passed by. It shows some skills and
technique as a photographer.

The Pro1's AF could never have followed the cyclist or allowed him
to snap the shutter in time. With a less predictable sport, things
would have been quite a bit more difficult.

I imagine trying to quickly aim the camera, at max zoom, on a
distant moving subject and track it while taking pictures. This is
virtually impossible to do with my G3's LCD, forcing me to use the
OVF instead. Likewise, I want to know how this camera is can focus
and present a viewfinder image ofn a subject in near total darkness
without an AF assist lamp. My G3 can do it, but only with

Mike Hunt · Mar 20, 2004

Phillipda said:
Hi Mike. your right there about the auto focusing but I did find a
way around the problem. all I did was pressed the shutter half way
down before the bike got to the point where I wanted the photo
taken I than pressed the shutter button fully about a half second
or so before she got to the point , by the time she got there The
camera focused at that right moment. It did take practise to get
the timing right.

Yes, that's what I thought you did. But this would be much more difficult with a less predictable sport where the players are running in all directions at varying speeds.

PhillipsArt said:
On all the photos I used the EVF. I would never use the LCD in
these situations because there is no way of holding the camera
steady enough while panning, you need a very smooth & steady
flowing motion. I can't see how that would be possible if you dont
hold the camera corectly,

Yes, I see your point. The problem, though, is that both the EVF and LCD have very slow refresh rates, so they can't follow any sort of fast motion - everything becomes a dizzying blur. So if you suddenly saw a plane on fire screaming towards the ground, it would be nearly impossible to quickly zoom the lens and frame the target without an optical viewfinder of some sort.

PhillipsArt said:
You know I was stumped for weeks deciding which camera to buy. I
was looking at the Canon 300D, 10D or Pro 1. in the end I decided
to go for the Pro 1 because of it's features & mainly compact size,
I am sick of carrying so much gear with me all the time.

Same reason I haven't used an SLR in years. But having used SLRs in the past, I'm still quite demanding and compact cameras are still a long way from satisfying my expectations.

PhillipsArt said:
I plan to
start doing some bushwalking with a backpack so the compact & light
Pro 1 will be perfect for me in those situations.
My other Camera is a Canon EOS5 with L lens. so I have all the lens
for the 300D or 10D, as I said I don't want to carry so much gear
around anymore. I am not as young as I use to be.

I don't consider myself old, but I don't like carrying gear either. I insist on preserving my ability to enjoy my surroundings while always having a full featured camera within easy reach. There are certainly times when I wish I had a sturdy tripod with me, or a couple hours to kill searching for the perfect angle and waiting for the perfect light. But I'm no longer willing to let the photographer in me interfere with the regular person in my trying to have a good time.

Mike Hunt · Mar 20, 2004

Phillipda said:
Hi.

Sorry about the EXIF partly missing on some of the photos, I don't
know why it did that. I will upload the rest of the info on the web
shortly.

Most software will mess up exif data. It's partially Canon's fault because they keep changing the format with each new camera model, making it impossible for software makers to keep up.

PhillipsArt said:
As you can see the Pro 1 is not as lousy as what some say it is at
action events. Well it's not for me, for some I would imagine it
would be.

I see these photos more of an illustration of the photographer's skill than the camera's ability. Autofocus didn't really play into the equation.

PhillipsArt said:
I must admit though I took about 10 photos to get these few good
ones. the others where out of focus or missed the bike, but I get
that with my SLR as well.

That's the name of the game. Take countless photos in search of the one perfect one. And I think you got a darned near perfect shot of the girl on the bike. Very nice.

PhillipsArt · Mar 20, 2004

Mike Hunt said:
Phillipda said:

Hi.

Sorry about the EXIF partly missing on some of the photos, I don't
know why it did that. I will upload the rest of the info on the web
shortly.

Click to expand...

Most software will mess up exif data. It's partially Canon's fault
because they keep changing the format with each new camera model,
making it impossible for software makers to keep up.

Mike Hunt said:

As you can see the Pro 1 is not as lousy as what some say it is at
action events. Well it's not for me, for some I would imagine it
would be.

Click to expand...

I see these photos more of an illustration of the photographer's
skill than the camera's ability. Autofocus didn't really play into
the equation.

Mike Hunt said:

I must admit though I took about 10 photos to get these few good
ones. the others where out of focus or missed the bike, but I get
that with my SLR as well.

Click to expand...

That's the name of the game. Take countless photos in search of the
one perfect one. And I think you got a darned near perfect shot of
the girl on the bike. Very nice.

Thanks Mike. I am glad you like the photos. I agree the shot with the girl on the bike I think is slightly on the wrong angle, In my opinion if I had moved so that I would of got a slightly more front on shot it would of been better.

b-rock · Mar 20, 2004

Phillipda said:
On all the photos I used the EVF. I would never use the LCD in
these situations because there is no way of holding the camera
steady enough while panning, you need a very smooth & steady
flowing motion. I can't see how that would be possible if you dont
hold the camera corectly,

You know I was stumped for weeks deciding which camera to buy. I
was looking at the Canon 300D, 10D or Pro 1. in the end I decided
to go for the Pro 1 because of it's features & mainly compact size,
I am sick of carrying so much gear with me all the time. I plan to
start doing some bushwalking with a backpack so the compact & light
Pro 1 will be perfect for me in those situations.
My other Camera is a Canon EOS5 with L lens. so I have all the lens
for the 300D or 10D, as I said I don't want to carry so much gear
around anymore. I am not as young as I use to be.

Mike Hunt said:

b-rock said:

The cyclist shots were exactly the ones the Pro1 is supposed to be
lousy at. So, are these testimony to your skill, your luck, or were
people wrong about the camera?

Click to expand...

The subject was predictable, so he was able to prefocus on the
desired spot, then waited until the cyclist came by, and panned the
camera with the cyclist as she passed by. It shows some skills and
technique as a photographer.

The Pro1's AF could never have followed the cyclist or allowed him
to snap the shutter in time. With a less predictable sport, things
would have been quite a bit more difficult.

I imagine trying to quickly aim the camera, at max zoom, on a
distant moving subject and track it while taking pictures. This is
virtually impossible to do with my G3's LCD, forcing me to use the
OVF instead. Likewise, I want to know how this camera is can focus
and present a viewfinder image ofn a subject in near total darkness
without an AF assist lamp. My G3 can do it, but only with

Click to expand...

Mike Hunt · Mar 20, 2004

Phillipda said:
Thanks Mike. I am glad you like the photos. I agree the shot with
the girl on the bike I think is slightly on the wrong angle, In my
opinion if I had moved so that I would of got a slightly more front
on shot it would of been better.

I kind of like it the way it is, especially how clearly you can see her face. From a different angle, it would have been harder to motion blur the background.

joe corey · Mar 20, 2004

urban75 said:
urban75 said:

sundown) meant that the pic isn't clear. I couldn't look at the
LCD either as I was doing 110kph and driving with the other hand.

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With respect, that's not exactly rhe smartest thing to do.

People have died because of stupid drivers making phone calls while
driving fast. Fiddling about with a digital camera while driving
one handed must increase the danger to others exponentially. Not
good. Not clever.

You've never drank coffee, answered a cell call, or adjusted your radio while driving?

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