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The Death Of The Canon 1Ds
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Paul42
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If Canon were making all that much profit on the 1Ds, you would think that it would be easier to find someplace that actually has one in stock.
If Kodak's Nikon mount version is all that great, why do all the big name stores have them sitting on the shelves?
I think this new SLR/c is the right answer for a few people, but it looks to me like Canon can't make the 1Ds fast enough to meed demand as it is and this new camera probably won't change that.
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If Kodak's Nikon mount version is all that great, why do all the big name stores have them sitting on the shelves?
I think this new SLR/c is the right answer for a few people, but it looks to me like Canon can't make the 1Ds fast enough to meed demand as it is and this new camera probably won't change that.
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Matt Huesmann
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I shoot with the 1DS everyday, and anyone can come out with a lower priced body touting numbers. If you make all your puchases by the literature specs, then you're in trouble. The rest of us actually need to turn in great images. The reason the 1ds will stay where it is, is because it works and still delivers the most gorgeous non-digital looking images out there in a 35mm digital body frame.
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sarbos
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About the older version, it is pathetic in anything higger than 100 iso and the extra resolution is lost due to moire artifacts...
Do you think it will change with the new model?
Well... it's an opinion...
will it be better than the 1Ds? ... I would like it to be so... in order to produce a decrease in 1Ds prices...
why? cause I would like to buy a 1Ds, but it's too expensive for me...
why wouldn't I buy the new kodak instead?...
cause I have confidence in Canon AF system, Metering system, flash system, digital system...
and I have no confidence at all in a sigma camera with a kodak chip that accepts canon lenses...
And knowing their past success with the same model (or lack of it)...
So: Is 1Ds dead? don't think so... who would chose a "prototype" kodak system versus the trustable Canon flagship?
Maybe you, and a few more people... a dozen against thousands of pros all over the world...
that's just my humble opinion,
Sarbos
Do you think it will change with the new model?
Well... it's an opinion...
will it be better than the 1Ds? ... I would like it to be so... in order to produce a decrease in 1Ds prices...
why? cause I would like to buy a 1Ds, but it's too expensive for me...
why wouldn't I buy the new kodak instead?...
cause I have confidence in Canon AF system, Metering system, flash system, digital system...
and I have no confidence at all in a sigma camera with a kodak chip that accepts canon lenses...
And knowing their past success with the same model (or lack of it)...
So: Is 1Ds dead? don't think so... who would chose a "prototype" kodak system versus the trustable Canon flagship?
Maybe you, and a few more people... a dozen against thousands of pros all over the world...
that's just my humble opinion,
Sarbos
Jonathan Lefcourt
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I have to agree with Ken here, Louis gets upset when people stroll into his forum and complain about 10D AF issues and now he comes into this forum and start trolling and baiting.
Louis, why are you commenting here, like your pal Pearly always says, 'You don't even own the camera'.
So buzz on out of here, this place is much nicer when you don't show your face.
How about posting some 10D pics so we know for sure you even own one of those cameras?
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Louis, why are you commenting here, like your pal Pearly always says, 'You don't even own the camera'.
So buzz on out of here, this place is much nicer when you don't show your face.
How about posting some 10D pics so we know for sure you even own one of those cameras?
JL
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T. G. O'Meara Jr.
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I know.
I just wonder if this means Canon will release early or still wait for Photokina?
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Any idea about the size and weight of this camera? About the same as 10D? Or . . .
Personally, I would expect its image quality would be comparable to the current SLR/n. Now how compatable is it with the Canon lenses? Similar to its "selective matching" with the Nikkors?
Steven
Personally, I would expect its image quality would be comparable to the current SLR/n. Now how compatable is it with the Canon lenses? Similar to its "selective matching" with the Nikkors?
Steven
Paul Cheang
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PC writes:
Sound like every expect the 1Ds to die and Kodak/c crowned a new king... so, how many of you will buy the Kodak/c Vs Canon 1Ds (or Canon 1Ds II when it 's out?).
Paul
BobHo
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And not just because of the Pro SLR/c. As I've stated before, I expect the Canon to reduce the 1Ds price by $3000 when the 1D MkIIs are shipping in volume.
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David Martin
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Hmm..I thought that 'another manufacturer' was thought to be sticking to around the same MP in it's replacement camera as the last model?
Change of plan?
That would give a camera, with, say 4-4.5 fps - that's OK, but, just for the sake of argument, suppose they went for 16MP, would that adverse affect the high-ISO performance against, say the 1D2?
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Change of plan?
That would give a camera, with, say 4-4.5 fps - that's OK, but, just for the sake of argument, suppose they went for 16MP, would that adverse affect the high-ISO performance against, say the 1D2?
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Guy Mancuso
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What are you thinking. How you could even remotely compare the Kodak piece of junk from day one it was introduced to a very well proven 1ds. If you own a 1ds than I would think you see my point. Why folks would even consider a Kodak over a Canon is well beyond me and if it is a money issue than save up and buy the 1ds. Kodak sensors suck , noise even at ISO 100 and the body will fall aprt if you looked at it the wrong way. I am sure half that even replied here do not even own a 1ds. If you did like me, this whole release of the Kodak is of not worth even reading the specs. on. Please get a grip , this camera is no better build than a Rebel . For a Pro to even consider it is like giving up all business sense.
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You're missing something there... the SLR/c is not a CANON product. Its a KODAK product.
So... the 1Ds is STILL Canon's FLAGSHIP product.
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So... the 1Ds is STILL Canon's FLAGSHIP product.
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Paul Cheang
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PC writes:
I did not say I am buying the Kodak/c. I am merely asking a question to those who enthuiastically cheer what they perceived as the dawn of the new king.
I have the 1Ds, 10D, and will have a Mark II when it is delivered.
Paul
I expect the 1DS price to drop some, the arrival of the Mark2 will probably spur that on to. When I was shopping for a full frame dslr last fall it didn't take long to reject the 14N.
Recessed eye piece, buttons that stuck out to be inadvertently hit, unusable high iso, etc... This camera looks a little better but I dought many 1ds, 1d, or Mark2 users will be lusting for it. Newcomers might be swayed by the pixel count but I think the frame rate will kill it for most of them. I have no experiance but I think even wedding needs higher than that. And don't forget this is just a press release, more problems might surface when people actually get there hands on them.
As for the new 1DS I expect when it comes out it will blow away it's competition in the full frame market just like the Mark2 is in the fast frame market. But like the Mark2 I think they'll raise the price a couple thousnd dollars. The only real competition for 1DS seems to be medium format digital lowering its price.
Just my 2 cents.
Recessed eye piece, buttons that stuck out to be inadvertently hit, unusable high iso, etc... This camera looks a little better but I dought many 1ds, 1d, or Mark2 users will be lusting for it. Newcomers might be swayed by the pixel count but I think the frame rate will kill it for most of them. I have no experiance but I think even wedding needs higher than that. And don't forget this is just a press release, more problems might surface when people actually get there hands on them.
As for the new 1DS I expect when it comes out it will blow away it's competition in the full frame market just like the Mark2 is in the fast frame market. But like the Mark2 I think they'll raise the price a couple thousnd dollars. The only real competition for 1DS seems to be medium format digital lowering its price.
Just my 2 cents.
Martin Wilson
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...the reason 1ds are in short supply is that they are ramping production down to ensure that there is no unsold stock for the launch of 1Ds Mark 2?
Isn't that what happened with the 1d (in that case along with a promotion & price reduction before hand). And in the meantime they can use the released 1Ds CMOS manaufacturing and assembly capacity to build 1D2s.
Just wondering... ;-)>
Martin Wilson
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Isn't that what happened with the 1d (in that case along with a promotion & price reduction before hand). And in the meantime they can use the released 1Ds CMOS manaufacturing and assembly capacity to build 1D2s.
Just wondering... ;-)>
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Guy Mancuso
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Guy Mancuso
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Scot I agree the only real viable threat to the 1ds is a medium format back if they lower the price.
I tend to think the production of the 1ds is very slow because they may have pulled all there resources and production lines to get the 1dMKII out the door. BUT on they same token it may also have something to do with a newly released 1dsMKII but I doubt we will see that anytime soon,.It would compete with the 1dMKII if they release something to soon. But yes I would very much welcome a new 1dsMKII but I as a working Pro have competely no interest in Kodak no matter what they promise to deliever to me they soured my grapes with the orginal 14n and ripped everyone off by selling it a year to early before the new sensor and the folks that bought the ealier version should get the new sensor for free , it is only the right thing to do.
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I tend to think the production of the 1ds is very slow because they may have pulled all there resources and production lines to get the 1dMKII out the door. BUT on they same token it may also have something to do with a newly released 1dsMKII but I doubt we will see that anytime soon,.It would compete with the 1dMKII if they release something to soon. But yes I would very much welcome a new 1dsMKII but I as a working Pro have competely no interest in Kodak no matter what they promise to deliever to me they soured my grapes with the orginal 14n and ripped everyone off by selling it a year to early before the new sensor and the folks that bought the ealier version should get the new sensor for free , it is only the right thing to do.
Guy
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