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has even mentioned placing the D100 in the same new forum. So tell me then. why did you feel it was necessary to do so? Maybe to "stir the pot" a little? After all, Chad, this proposal for a new forum isn't about the D100, now, is it? It's about the overwhelming flood of D70 posts, that is only going to increase tenfold in a very short time. Fear not folks, there WILL be another vote, all in due time.
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Is the D70 not a Nikon and a SLR?

I think we are missing the idea of the total forum.

You are all very welcome to read my thoughts.

Troy
Marc said:
I thnk that becuase the D70 is a large topic that it should have it
own forum just like the Canon Drebel. I would be easier to view the
comments and questions people make about the D70 rather then have
to search through all the other Nikon DSLR cameras in the same forum
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I have been lurking here for a while, mostly because of the D70. I have mixed feelings about splitting and agree that there is a down side. I'm sure the more sophisticated users sometimes get annoyed at all the newbies that are around now because of the D70.

However, I think they have a lot to offer and would want to hear their opinions and input as I learn to become a better photographer (even if just in a lurking mode).

If the forum were split, some of the interchange between the knowledgable users and the newbies would be lost.

Herb
Kuca said:
Marc said:
I thnk that becuase the D70 is a large topic that it should have it
own forum just like the Canon Drebel. I would be easier to view the
comments and questions people make about the D70 rather then have
to search through all the other Nikon DSLR cameras in the same forum
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Is the Drebel not a canon and an SLR as well? Then why did Phil feel it necessary start a new forum just for it? Simple really, because the trafffic flow generated by the Drebel alone demanded it's own forum. Same thing here with the D70 situation. Heck, I know I'll be hanging out at both forums if that's what eventually transpires... that is, if Chad and some of the other preachers of doom and condensation will allow me to feel welcomed ;c)
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Steven:

It was meant for your amusement...and whether the D100 should be included in a potentially new consumer Nikon DSLR forum is addressed in one of the posts in this thread below. I was refering to it when making the observation that, despite the likeness in feature set, D100 owners would prefer to be omitted from the D70 forum split. Something like the prepschool "no more joiners" rule they are evolking to grandfather in their continuing standing in the existing forum.
Steven S said:
has even mentioned placing the D100 in the same new forum. So tell
me then. why did you feel it was necessary to do so? Maybe to "stir
the pot" a little? After all, Chad, this proposal for a new forum
isn't about the D100, now, is it? It's about the overwhelming flood
of D70 posts, that is only going to increase tenfold in a very
short time. Fear not folks, there WILL be another vote, all in due
time.
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hwho said:
However, I think they have a lot to offer and would want to hear
their opinions and input as I learn to become a better photographer
(even if just in a lurking mode).

If the forum were split, some of the interchange between the
knowledgable users and the newbies would be lost.

Herb
Kuca said:
Marc said:
I thnk that becuase the D70 is a large topic that it should have it
own forum just like the Canon Drebel. I would be easier to view the
comments and questions people make about the D70 rather then have
to search through all the other Nikon DSLR cameras in the same forum
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and would you kindly tell me what likeness in feature set" are you referring to, the "Scene mode", the menu, the buttons, what is so similar that the D2h r D1X wouldn't also have? You see, the D70 has borrowed some things from the D100, but also some things, such a the ergonomics/buttons layout, largely from the newer D2H. hmm, it seems they're all related afterall ;/ Since the D70 will have by far the largest following, due to it's affordability, then it stands to reason it should have it's own forum. I can just about guarantee this IS going to happen, and there's not a thing any of us singly can do about it. I'm sure many of us will peruse both forums, just like I did going between NTF and here for a long time...that is until the "fallout" occurred. it's not like a D70 won't be able to post a general question on this forum, why, in fact, that's absurd, to even suggest that.
-Steve S
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I don't know how this became adversarial or what you believe my position to be on the issue, but you appear to be missing what I meant to say. I believe the D70 should have its own forum (based on the continued volume of posts) but I find it funny how defensive some (or many) current D100 users are and want to distance themselves from the herd even though both bodies are essentially the same unlike the Drebel and the 10D where, apart from image quality and sensor size, they are very different beasts.
Steven S said:
and would you kindly tell me what likeness in feature set" are you
referring to, the "Scene mode", the menu, the buttons, what is so
similar that the D2h r D1X wouldn't also have? You see, the D70 has
borrowed some things from the D100, but also some things, such a
the ergonomics/buttons layout, largely from the newer D2H. hmm, it
seems they're all related afterall ;/ Since the D70 will have by
far the largest following, due to it's affordability, then it
stands to reason it should have it's own forum. I can just about
guarantee this IS going to happen, and there's not a thing any of
us singly can do about it. I'm sure many of us will peruse both
forums, just like I did going between NTF and here for a long
time...that is until the "fallout" occurred. it's not like a D70
won't be able to post a general question on this forum, why, in
fact, that's absurd, to even suggest that.
-Steve S
http://www.pbase.com/sshyone
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Heck the revolution was the D100 two years ago.

Should that not have been the time to split?

I split as of this writing.

Troy
Steven S said:
Is the Drebel not a canon and an SLR as well? Then why did Phil
feel it necessary start a new forum just for it? Simple really,
because the trafffic flow generated by the Drebel alone demanded
it's own forum. Same thing here with the D70 situation. Heck, I
know I'll be hanging out at both forums if that's what eventually
transpires... that is, if Chad and some of the other preachers of
doom and condensation will allow me to feel welcomed ;c)
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that some of the more accomplished amateurs, and pros alike don't want to be a part of the repetitive, often inane questions sure to be asked by complete newbies, since they have paid their dues, learned their cameras, and DO know what Aperture Priority does. It's somewhat analogous to a threesome of club level golf pros, not wanting to be stuck playing a round with a single player who is a 50 handicap, if that makes any sense. I, for one, would be more than happy to answer intelligent, original questions ppl have, but when it's something they REALLY should know, like something as elementary as "How do I change a lens?" Or, another "example would be if it's been asked 20 times already in a week's time, then I would pass over that one, out of frustration at the poster's sheer ignorance of their equipment or down right laziness in not wanting to do any of their own homework themselves. I hope Are we on the same page now, Chad? :c) Sharing knowledge and helping others is fun and very rewarding, imho, (most of the time), but ppl must also be willing to help themselves.
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creating forums for specific cameras is pretty silly seeing as
though models change from year to year.... heh. A better
setup would be:

advanced/pro dslr
intermediate dslr
beginner/starter dlsr

with readers deciding amongst themselves which camera
belongs where. Just by .02 worth
Marc said:
I thnk that becuase the D70 is a large topic that it should have it
own forum just like the Canon Drebel. I would be easier to view the
comments and questions people make about the D70 rather then have
to search through all the other Nikon DSLR cameras in the same forum
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trying to learn together; the more expensive camera owners resentfull because of what they paid. (admittidly getting more). I would like to see periodic challenges here which I havent seen in the Nikon forums yet except for the NTF. The pros would possibly be bored with contests and definitly more apt with better equipment. So saying: D70 forum would be fine, and if we have advanced questions, we could ask them over at the advanced forum (which will be quite slow after escaping from all the d70 people).
hwho said:
However, I think they have a lot to offer and would want to hear
their opinions and input as I learn to become a better photographer
(even if just in a lurking mode).

If the forum were split, some of the interchange between the
knowledgable users and the newbies would be lost.

Herb
Kuca said:
Marc said:
I thnk that becuase the D70 is a large topic that it should have it
own forum just like the Canon Drebel. I would be easier to view the
comments and questions people make about the D70 rather then have
to search through all the other Nikon DSLR cameras in the same forum
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OK - here's your difference. Many (most) D100 buyers were upgrading to digital from film SLRs. They understood SLR shooting. The price point of the D70 now attracts compact digital shooters who have caught the photography bug but never owned a film SLR. If enough of them come to the forum in a relatively short span - the D100 users will certainly want to be on the D1/2 side of any split... should Phil decide to

Keep in mind that it hasn't happened yet, and some of your compadres may petition Phil via email when it does. PS - the DRebel and 10D are NOT functionally different enough to make that the reason why they weren't integrated. The D30 and 10D share less, but were grouped. $.02 spent, I'm out. ~ m²

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I think that you are wrong, Mark, most SLR shooters are only now starting to switch to dSLR with the D70.

Read the posts, it's not prosumer owners (although they may have had one while waiting for a reasonably priced Nikon dSLR), but Nikon SLR owners that are looking at the D70.

That's why there are endless posts about whether old Nikon lenses will work properly with the D70.

And interestingly, many of them, like myself, own F801 (N8008) and F601 (N6006) SLR's, but didn't buy the latest SLR's while they were waiting. They may have spent that upgrade cash on interim prosumer cameras like the Nikon CP 5X00 cameras and earlier models.
Mark Marshall said:
OK - here's your difference. Many (most) D100 buyers were upgrading
to digital from film SLRs.
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I suggested this when the 300D came and there was talk about the forum splitting. Seemed like the most logical way to go. Phil tried it, but it apparently didn't work... Hence the camera specific split. Not all the forum surfers act in the most logical way, I quess... That might work for us, but maybe not for others (shame, I'd love to see the forums split that way)
Member said:
Frank C. wrote:
creating forums for specific cameras is pretty silly seeing as
though models change from year to year.... heh. A better
setup would be:

advanced/pro dslr
intermediate dslr
beginner/starter dlsr

with readers deciding amongst themselves which camera
belongs where. Just by .02 worth
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Jola said:
I think that you are wrong, Mark, most SLR shooters are only now
starting to switch to dSLR with the D70.
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First off let me say I am a friendly Coolpix/Rebel owner - and now I'm a liar cuz I said "only one more". Your statement above is true - but I said "most D100 owners were SLR shooters". Those two statements aren't really contradictory.
Jola said:
Read the posts, it's not prosumer owners (although they may have
had one while waiting for a reasonably priced Nikon dSLR), but
Nikon SLR owners that are looking at the D70.
That's why there are endless posts about whether old Nikon lenses
will work properly with the D70.
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Again true - but you are pre-Best Buy" at this point, and early adopters are a mix at best (same as the Rebel). You won't experience what I speak of until some time after the mass market rollout.
Jola said:
And interestingly, many of them, like myself, own F801 (N8008) and
F601 (N6006) SLR's, but didn't buy the latest SLR's while they were
waiting. They may have spent that upgrade cash on interim prosumer
cameras like the Nikon CP 5X00 cameras and earlier models.
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A certain niche did I'm sure - but as you found out, shutter lag is extremely difficult to get used to. I love my 4500... it's swivel is functional yet cool looking, it's well built, does a good job with CA suppression and has a world class digicam macro - but I just can't use it for much more than a point n snap these days (except for the macro). As you can see - I jumped on the Rebel as a digicam early adopter (as did several other Coolpixers from the NTF along with lo, the many Gx shooters). I don't see why you shouldn't expect the same once it's sitting on the shelf in Sam's Club or what-have-you. Most all 5xxx shooters (at the minimum) will "feel the tug" now that it's not a Canon tantalizingly within their reach. ~ m²
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