300D Kit Lense replacement

Have you ever used the 70-200/4L?
Yes. I'm a proud owner.
I'd be willing to spend the money on it but i'm alittle worred
about the length. I believe its just under 7inches. The cheap
200mm lense hits 7inches but only when fully expanded. Would it be
difficult to hike with it attached to the camera and on your neck
for an hour or 2 and would it get in the way?
It is long, but it isn't heavy. Depends on your hiking style and the way you your sling the camera. When I'm walking around I'll sling the strap around just my right shoulder, but still keep my right hand on the camera grip. This way just about any lens is comfortable. If you just let it hang around your neck, it will definitely be cumbersome.

There are various toploader shoulder bags that will fit the entire 70-200/4L even while connected to the 300D. That may be a better option if you decide on this lens.

And if you're hiking in deep forest and the cover is thick enough, you may find yourself wanting for light. The f/4 limitation might become a problem.
 
I have one and it's a darn good lens for the money. Not quite L quality but close. It's also a great walking around lens - not too heavy or long and great optics. Although I have a 70-200 f/2.8L, the kit lens and a 50mm f1.8, it's the one I use the most. Also, it's under $500. (I'll prob sell the kit lens - I use it the least).
Hi all,

I'm considering getting the 300D kit but most places that have
reviewed the lense give it a poor rating. I will be taking lots of
outdoor nature photos and don't want to give up the 18mm wide
angle. What would you recomend that would cover the kits
approximate range?

I'd also like a Macro at some point and am considering the Canon EF
4.0 70-200mm USM L along with whatever ends up replacing the kit
lense.

A lense that could give me a decent wide angle and good macro would
be perfect to compliment a 70-200 2nd lense.

I've been reading lense reviews all over but can't find anyone to
agree on anything other than the $1000+ lenses which are out of my
price range.
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Thanks for the thorough reply, you've given me lots of think about.
At any rate, sure.. there are "replacement" lenses available. But
all for SIGNIFICANTLY more money than $100, which is what makes the
kit lens such a popular item, even if it's NOT the greateast
overall performance ever to come from a ultra-wideangle zoom. One
lens springs to mind, since it's a fairly good match on overall
specs (talking strictly range + aperture): Canon 17-40L but, it's
like $600 or thereabouts? Make no mistake, it's a superior lens,
partly on image quality/performance but also on build quality
(worlds apart on that front).

Anything under 28mm is going to run up the price quickly. Other
options would be to get a more 'normal' wideangle zoom, like the
very highly regarded Tamron 28-75/2.8 XR Di for $320 (or less, if
you shop well).. and then add a wideangle fixed focal length like a
20mm or something thereabouts to gain back something near the what
was lost on the wide-end of the 18-55. Again, though.. this takes
$$ as wideangle lenses are just not cheap. Period. Except for the
18-55 kit lens, which is why it's hard to beat!

Argh! I have both the 18-55mm AND the Canon 17-40L in my
possession (I own the 18-55, borrowed the 17-40). I've yet to
conduct the tests I intend to, thanks to non-cooperative weather.
From what little I've seen by shooting snapshots around the house,
I'd say the 17-40L will win the race, but in MANY circumstances,
the 18-55 will hold it's own and be quite comparable. One thing
that is notably weaker on the 18-55? Chromatic Aberration, or
Purple Fringing, or whatver you want to call it but it's purple. I
was messing around and shot a pic with a brightly sunlit window
along the left side of the frame and it lit up like a Sony 828! I
don't think I've seen that much purple more than once, perhaps
twice, out of my A70 after nearly 1500 pics (honestly!). So, I
have reservations about the overall performance of the 18-55.. not
that it's bad (it's not!), but that it's performance envelope is
NOT the equal of the much finer crafter 17-40L.

To echo what you've heard: "What do you want for $100!" ;-) For
$100, it's a bargain, in my firm opinion. It's not like CA will
paint a large percentage of shots.. it's just that in extremes it
is likely to rear it's ugly head. I hope to get out over the next
week.. snow is coming again, so only time will tell if this weekend
gives weather conducive to trekking about with SOMEONE ELSE's $600
lens in tow, or not.

As for macro.. you won't find much of anything on a wideangle zoom
with respect for macro, but I will note that the 18-55 does
respectable "closeups", as does the aforementioned Tamron 28-75
(1:4 max magnification, I believe, on the Tamron.. maybe closer to
1:3-something on the 18-55?). For a true macro, you need to get a
macro lens which will be capable of a more traditional 'macro'
shooting capability of at least 1:2, and more likely 1:1 (Canon
100mm f/2.8 Macro, for example.. doubles nicely as a
telephoto/portrait lens, too!). As for matching the very highly
regarded and price concious 70-200/4L, many people find the Canon
17-40/4L I spoke of earlier as a great pairing (bearing in mind the
price, again!).

I don't think you'll do better than the 18-55 unless your willing
to spend in the $500 or more range? Perhaps check out the newly
released Tamron 17-35, a sibling of the Tamron 28-75? It might be
a good value, but again nothing even remotely close to $100! Maybe
someone here can comment on that lens... it's fairly new and I
haven't read much about it, yet.

icmp
Hi all,

I'm considering getting the 300D kit but most places that have
reviewed the lense give it a poor rating. I will be taking lots of
outdoor nature photos and don't want to give up the 18mm wide
angle. What would you recomend that would cover the kits
approximate range?

I'd also like a Macro at some point and am considering the Canon EF
4.0 70-200mm USM L along with whatever ends up replacing the kit
lense.

A lense that could give me a decent wide angle and good macro would
be perfect to compliment a 70-200 2nd lense.

I've been reading lense reviews all over but can't find anyone to
agree on anything other than the $1000+ lenses which are out of my
price range.
 
I'm probably going to visit NZ for a month next year when I get an
extra week vacation. Would you recomend I cut it down to 3 weeks
and spend a week in Tazmania?
I've not been to NZ, but I'm sure you'll find more than a months worth of photo ops there :)

I think either way, you would be happy with your decision, both places are a photographer's paradise
 
I want the 70-200L also. The L lens has a 5 ot of 5 star rating. You cant go wrong there. Cant wait to get mine.

As far as the kit lens is conserned I think it was well worth the 100 dollors I say get the kit and see what you think unless you know you have the bread for the camera, L lens and a good costly wide angle lens.
Hi all,

I'm considering getting the 300D kit but most places that have
reviewed the lense give it a poor rating. I will be taking lots of
outdoor nature photos and don't want to give up the 18mm wide
angle. What would you recomend that would cover the kits
approximate range?

I'd also like a Macro at some point and am considering the Canon EF
4.0 70-200mm USM L along with whatever ends up replacing the kit
lense.

A lense that could give me a decent wide angle and good macro would
be perfect to compliment a 70-200 2nd lense.

I've been reading lense reviews all over but can't find anyone to
agree on anything other than the $1000+ lenses which are out of my
price range.
--
It's not the speed that'll kill ya,
It's the sudden stops!
 
you'll find that expensive zooms benefit from being stopped-down as well. Anyhow, for proper landscapes, stopped-down is what you want. Isn't it?
The kit lens can produce excellent images. Certainly higher
quality images than its price tag would imply.

However it has limitations - not as good at either extreme end of
its zoom range and you pretty much have to stop it down 1-2 stops.
That makes it more like a 21-52mm f/7.1 - f/11 lens in my book. I
just don't want to struggle that much with my equipment.

If I can afford a higher quality prime or zoom that makes my life
easier, I'll write the check every time. Simple cost/benefit
analysis for me.
--
Blue
http://www.pbase.com/image/7450272
 
...thanks for providing another example of the ugly American
stereotype.

The 'net is an international forum - especially considering this
forum is NOT U.S. based.
Not that I endorse such a curt correction (LENS not lense), but as far as I know, "lense" is not a regional version of "lens" - I just checked British and Australian photography site/stores - both have the spelling "lens" (though "lense" is becoming acceptable)
--
Misha
 
you'll find that expensive zooms benefit from being stopped-down as
well.
That's true, but it's a matter of degree. For example, two lenses that I have experience with: the 70-200/4L is still excellent at f/4 and the 135/2L is still spectacular at f/2. Both get better at f/5.6, but they're good enough wide open that it's not a big deal if you can't pull back to f/5.6. For me the value of "L" lenses (or good non-"L" primes) is that they perform acceptably (or superbly) under almost any condition.

Whereas the kit lens, especially at the zoom extremes, is not spectacular wide open. For my tastes it is not acceptable. But of course when used under optimal conditions the kit lens produces very good results. I think it's a fantastic lens to include with this camera and I think it's the best, simplest choice for someone new to SLR photography.
Anyhow, for proper landscapes, stopped-down is what you want.
Isn't it?
From what I hear. I would never claim to be a landscape expert.
 
Ugly I may be, but American I am not. Anyhow, my quip was not meant to be nasty, just a correction. I've seen lense appear in this particular forum so many times, and I know of no language that uses this spelling. I suspect that many non-English speakers are picking up on this miss-spelling and using it thinking it correct.

Brian A
The 'net is an international forum - especially considering this
forum is NOT U.S. based.
Hi all,

I'm considering getting the 300D kit but most places that have
reviewed the lense give it a poor rating. I will be taking lots of
outdoor nature photos and don't want to give up the 18mm wide
angle. What would you recomend that would cover the kits
approximate range?

I'd also like a Macro at some point and am considering the Canon EF
4.0 70-200mm USM L along with whatever ends up replacing the kit
lense.

A lense that could give me a decent wide angle and good macro would
be perfect to compliment a 70-200 2nd lense.

I've been reading lense reviews all over but can't find anyone to
agree on anything other than the $1000+ lenses which are out of my
price range.
 
Hi all,

I'm considering getting the 300D kit but most places that have
reviewed the lense give it a poor rating. I will be taking lots of
outdoor nature photos and don't want to give up the 18mm wide
angle. What would you recomend that would cover the kits
approximate range?

I'd also like a Macro at some point and am considering the Canon EF
4.0 70-200mm USM L along with whatever ends up replacing the kit
lense.

A lense that could give me a decent wide angle and good macro would
be perfect to compliment a 70-200 2nd lense.

I've been reading lense reviews all over but can't find anyone to
agree on anything other than the $1000+ lenses which are out of my
price range.
--
http://www.worldisround.com/articles/31908/index.html
 
According to this site:
http://www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/tables/spellcat.php

"Lense" is actually an American English alternate spelling. Not exactly ironclad proof though.

However more recent American English dictionaries don't include it. And as a fairly well-educated American, I can confidently say that "lense" is not the preferred spelling in the US.

So I guess I was wrong in my previous post. "Lense" just had that Brit/Aussie feel but I guess it was just us dang colonials screwing things up again.

From here on out: on pain of mockery, let "lense" be banned from all use!
 
that has the 55-200 4-5.6 included. Thier metal mounts and not half bad for the lowly price of 250 US dollars.
Michael

PS. I have the 70-200 4L too, as you mentioned, and the Sigma lens isn't redundant because it's much lighter and unobtrusive for those times when a big white lens won't do.
Hi all,

I'm considering getting the 300D kit but most places that have
reviewed the lense give it a poor rating. I will be taking lots of
outdoor nature photos and don't want to give up the 18mm wide
angle. What would you recomend that would cover the kits
approximate range?

I'd also like a Macro at some point and am considering the Canon EF
4.0 70-200mm USM L along with whatever ends up replacing the kit
lense.

A lense that could give me a decent wide angle and good macro would
be perfect to compliment a 70-200 2nd lense.

I've been reading lense reviews all over but can't find anyone to
agree on anything other than the $1000+ lenses which are out of my
price range.
 

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