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Epson RD1 Cheers! Bravo!!
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Joseph S Wisniewski
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Obviously, with the viewfinder that came with the 15mm Heliar.
It's different because a 15mm Heliar comes with a 15mm viewfinder. They're sold in sets. To get the 21mm viewfinder, so that you can use a 15mm Heliar on the Epsonlander, one has to find a 21mm finder that has been separated from its 21mm lens.
Now, one would hope that Cosina would make the 1.5x finders availiable as separate items. And that the user would never use the wrong finder
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Joseph S Wisniewski
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Which isn't active until after the picture is shot, like any DSLR using a sensor that size.
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larsbc
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Probably. For starters, the Bessa chassis has a relatively short baselength for focusing. Secondly, it is not a 1.53x multiplier, it's a crop and the image isn't magnified in the viewfinder anyway, so it will be very difficult to focus with that lens.
These viewfinders can be bought separate from the lenses. When this Epsonlander hits the shelves, I'm sure CV will provide an addition lens + finder option to suit the digital body. There are certainly no technical issues involved here. The one thing that CV MUST DO is produce a 21mm or so lens (similar to a 35mm lens on 135 film) that is f2.5 or better, because the 35 is one of the most popular lenses among RF users. The current 21/4 is just too slow.
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George J147736
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...is there to **** the shutter. What is the function of a film rewind knob at the other end. The two dots on top look like film advance indicator marks. While this may be a function select knob it seems a little silly to pattern it right off a film camera.
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2yellowdogs
Member
Joe,
CV already sells viewfinders in 12, 15, 21, 25, 28, 35, 40, 50, 75 and 90mm focal lengths. Plus, there are tons of multifinders for sale (the Russian models are cheap and pretty good. I don't think finding the appropriate finder will be a problem.
The point is, saying that using a separate finder is inconvenient is pretty ridiculous when any rangefinder shooter who likes wide angles is doing it already.
DZ
CV already sells viewfinders in 12, 15, 21, 25, 28, 35, 40, 50, 75 and 90mm focal lengths. Plus, there are tons of multifinders for sale (the Russian models are cheap and pretty good. I don't think finding the appropriate finder will be a problem.
The point is, saying that using a separate finder is inconvenient is pretty ridiculous when any rangefinder shooter who likes wide angles is doing it already.
DZ
Obviously, with the viewfinder that came with the 15mm Heliar.
It's different because a 15mm Heliar comes with a 15mm viewfinder.
They're sold in sets. To get the 21mm viewfinder, so that you can
use a 15mm Heliar on the Epsonlander, one has to find a 21mm finder
that has been separated from its 21mm lens.
Now, one would hope that Cosina would make the 1.5x finders
availiable as separate items. And that the user would never use the
wrong finder
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all finders are sold also separetely by both Leica and cosina. Leica, however, now make only the "multi-finder" which is 21, 24, 28. CV makes the nicest metal finders, but yet not for all focal lenses. they are also much chiper than the Leica. (I use the Leica on my 21 Elmarit asph, and no finder on my 28 summicron asph).
Obviously, with the viewfinder that came with the 15mm Heliar.
It's different because a 15mm Heliar comes with a 15mm viewfinder.
They're sold in sets. To get the 21mm viewfinder, so that you can
use a 15mm Heliar on the Epsonlander, one has to find a 21mm finder
that has been separated from its 21mm lens.
Now, one would hope that Cosina would make the 1.5x finders
availiable as separate items. And that the user would never use the
wrong finder
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So I'm posting even more!
Ciao!
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Stephen Girimont
Active member
Is the L-mount the old screw mount designation, and if so, does that mean that the current Japanese Voitlander (sp?) screw mount lenses would work with this camera (with the adapter)?
If so, is anyone familiar with the quality of these lenses?
I've recently fallen in love with the light weight of rangefinder systems (I recently purchased a Mamiya 7 system) compared to my Nikon equipment. If this camera will work with the inexpensive Voitlander lenses, I may seriously consider purchasing this for landscape work, as the older I get, the less inclined I am to hike up mountains with tons of Nikon equipment!
-Steve
If so, is anyone familiar with the quality of these lenses?
I've recently fallen in love with the light weight of rangefinder systems (I recently purchased a Mamiya 7 system) compared to my Nikon equipment. If this camera will work with the inexpensive Voitlander lenses, I may seriously consider purchasing this for landscape work, as the older I get, the less inclined I am to hike up mountains with tons of Nikon equipment!
-Steve
David Kieltyka
Veteran Member
Yes and yes.
I've used most of them and currently own three. Quality varies from really good to superlative. The 50mm f/3.5 Heliar in particular is a stellar lens. It'll outresolve the R-D1's sensor wide-open and has lovely imaging qualities too. (Unfortunately it was a limited edition lens and is now out-of-production, though hope of a second run still exists.) The 35mm f/1.2 Nokton is distinctive in that it's a first-rate performer and also very fast. The 12mm f/5.6 Heliar is another high-quality optic and is the widest rangefinder camera lens on the market. No dogs in the lot.
For more info have a look here:
http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtlen.htm
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I use mostly Leica lenses, I have limitted experience with VC, but I have seen some expamples and can comment a little. The 15 is the one I have been using for a while, and I guess now I am giong to buy it. It has an impressively low distortion, beating most 21 slr lenses. there is something much less impressive about the colors it produces, in relation to my widest Leica lens, which is the 21 elm asph. I own the Leica 28 elmarit (2.8) and recently I was "out to get" a faster 28. I compared the 28 vc 1.8 to the Leica summicron, the former is very impressive for a 28, but I chose the Leica, which is very close to be a perfect lens. From what I saw, the 35 1.2 is not as good as either the 35 1.4 asph, or the 35 2 asph (I own the former of the Leica lenses) but it is faster, obviously. The leica Noct (f/1, 50mm) has less flare than the VC 35 1.2
I think the VC lenses compare very well to nikon and canon. In fact I think they are generally better. but I think if you think of the M/L system you owe yourself at least one good Leica lens. My choice for one Leica lens would be the 35 summicron (f/2) asph, (unless money is not an issue, then get the lux). I guess you can get it for slightly more than 800$ used. (unless that is the price I sold one for two months ago).
hope you find my answer relevant to your questions.
btw, since you mentioned landscape, I prefer the 28 Elmarit for landscape over both the VC and the Leica summicron, and it is also much cheaper than the other leica. I have some pictures I shot with it on my photonet portfolio, but photonet has server problems today and I don't remember the address of the link, I could post the link when they will be back "on the air".
I think the VC lenses compare very well to nikon and canon. In fact I think they are generally better. but I think if you think of the M/L system you owe yourself at least one good Leica lens. My choice for one Leica lens would be the 35 summicron (f/2) asph, (unless money is not an issue, then get the lux). I guess you can get it for slightly more than 800$ used. (unless that is the price I sold one for two months ago).
hope you find my answer relevant to your questions.
btw, since you mentioned landscape, I prefer the 28 Elmarit for landscape over both the VC and the Leica summicron, and it is also much cheaper than the other leica. I have some pictures I shot with it on my photonet portfolio, but photonet has server problems today and I don't remember the address of the link, I could post the link when they will be back "on the air".
The photos of the prototype show a frame advance lever, but what could be the purpose of this on a digital camera? Surely it has a useful purpose...
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xx573V3xx
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This has been repeatedly answered throughout this and other threads on this camera
the answer is that it is to **** the shutter, as it is a mechanical shutter and the camera has no motor in it
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the answer is that it is to **** the shutter, as it is a mechanical shutter and the camera has no motor in it
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Ed Nazarko
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The RD1 fills a niche in the market that is best understood by thinking about the film market. Despite all the wonderful things about SLRs, they're noisy and bulky. A whole lot of street work, project photojournalism, and indoor travel work is shot with Leica rangefinders, mostly because they're small and light and quiet. A lot of pros I know who've switched to digital for 90% of their work still use a Leica for street work or indoor quiet work.
I love my D100s. I haven't shot film in an SLR, other than color infrared, since getting my first d100. but i still shoot a lot of film in my old Canon rangefinder, with fast lenses, because I'm a lot more invisible with it. The RD1 is precisely the camera that will finally put my Canon out to pasture, and may do the same for many Leicas. (and I'll still be able to use my wonderful 50mm 1.2...)
I'm excited also because the sensor appears to be the same as the D100. I find that the noise level is negligible, hardly noticeable, up to ISO1200 if you get the exposure right, and 1600 in most situations. the results are way better than provia 400 push processed, and as good as any 800 speed film pushed to 1600.
if epson gets the RD1 right, this is the camera that i'll be shooting by candlelight in monasteries. which is precisely what a rangefinder camera should excel at.
my wallet is open.
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Ed
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I love my D100s. I haven't shot film in an SLR, other than color infrared, since getting my first d100. but i still shoot a lot of film in my old Canon rangefinder, with fast lenses, because I'm a lot more invisible with it. The RD1 is precisely the camera that will finally put my Canon out to pasture, and may do the same for many Leicas. (and I'll still be able to use my wonderful 50mm 1.2...)
I'm excited also because the sensor appears to be the same as the D100. I find that the noise level is negligible, hardly noticeable, up to ISO1200 if you get the exposure right, and 1600 in most situations. the results are way better than provia 400 push processed, and as good as any 800 speed film pushed to 1600.
if epson gets the RD1 right, this is the camera that i'll be shooting by candlelight in monasteries. which is precisely what a rangefinder camera should excel at.
my wallet is open.
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Chester Yeung
Member
I'm very, very excited about this camera too, but one should note that the Bessa's shutter is actually rather noisy. Nowhere near as quiet as a Leica and, arguably, not much quieter than an SLR without motorized film advance.
Chester
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Ed Nazarko
Guest
it's why i still have my ancient Canon P. the wind lever gives me pause, mostly because it may signal a less than thoughtful implementation of digital. still, i think it's a big kick in the pants for the market. and i like to see that. i bow to Mr. Kobayashi.
Ed
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Nelson Ricciardi
Leading Member
Joseph,
There is no mirror, it might have live preview. We still don't know. But it might have.
There is no mirror, it might have live preview. We still don't know. But it might have.
Steffan Mamcillan
Senior Member
I've had rangefinders for about 7 years and have always enjoyed worked around their short falls, I was thinking about getting a Mamiya 7 set up but now I may get the rd-1.
Any samples on line any where?
I bet it'll be over 1000 quid though :-(
Hurry up with a review Phil.
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Any samples on line any where?
I bet it'll be over 1000 quid though :-(
Hurry up with a review Phil.
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The problem (or the very good news...) is that somewhere in Poland (www.fotoshop.com.pl/katalog/featured_products.php) they will be selling the R-D1 8052zt which is 2070$...
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