Dear forum members..

Pellix said:

...not particularly funny but accurate and you shouldn't let the
narrow minded feminists write the rules.

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Bvcuma said:

.. this situation has come completely unglued.
As such I have found a rare opportunity for self examination
that does not come all too often in ones life.

To laugh with these prostitutes was one thing..
to laugh AT them whether out of habit, pleasure, ignorance,
fear, discomfort....or whatever..
well its not how I would like to respond.
It makes a mockery out of what I think I am pursuing.
In a long and convoluted process I have come to realize this..acutely.
I can understand Melanie's "instinct" to take action for whatever
reasons.
I have done so here myself...and elsewhere.
It simply grips you.

Try to understand, what you experience via my posts..
is merely a 5 or 10 min glimpse into this world of theirs.
It is not so different for me either really..
5 or 10 hours out and about, here and there..
and I am home to hot food and a warm clean bed.
I work on the images and post them with some degree
of relative detachment..happy with the shoot,
and in anticpation of a well recieved response from you all.
So I too in my own way view them as if across a screen...
that changes from day to day.
They come and go in my life...
and I can only really absorb so much.

Anyway...
when Melanie refreshed my memory
with her sharp text and that harsh reality link
http://www.maryellenmark.com/frames/falkland.html
It was as if I were a dog and having peed on the floor
was having my nose rubbed in it..
I had to taste it in a very very literal sense..
my whole being was so completey repulsed..
I have a good idea what that scene is all about..
and could suddenly connect and fill in all the gaps
of that grimey, semen soaked, aids infested gutter life existence

I was wrong in taking a lite (humurous) and then defensive posture.
No, this was the harsh reality.. and I could not handle it.
But it did cement my resolve to put down my life...
for 6 months or so to examine myself in a retreat situation.
Otherwise my sorry @ss ambitions may have allowed
me one lame excuse or another to just continue on
la-di-da at this very crucial mid-point in my life.

Regardless,
None of us is perfect..we all suffer from our lack of awareness
and social conditionings that heavily curbs our intelligence.
I am not one to judge... anybody,
I really have more than enough
to concern "myself" with.

So... a very clean break from all that.

Here is a boy I had planned to post weeks back.
He has been sitting one my web page..
patiently waiting to say hello.





And when I viewed this image last night..
I wept profusley.
I could see the parallel..
That I too was soiled by this earthly existance,
yet somewhere under all the dirt and grime
there does shine an innocence like that
which radiates from his eyes.



Yes I need a break.. a real break
no I am not looking to post elsewhere,
nor start some ambitious web site.
I imagine a complete disengagement will not yet
manifest for a couple of months still.
Till then I will post on occasion some
of the images which are waiting in my files.

Till then best wishes all..
Bvcuma

btw
if you wish to view my images to date..they are here
http://www.pbase.com/bvcuma/root

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D P O'neil said:

could go to India and put an end to this dreadful scourge of
prostitution.

Really your bleeding heart liberalism is becoming nonsensical,
twice you have somehow compared yourself to these people by telling
us how you had a hard upbringing and had been shot!. Well who
cares! Do you think you are the only person who has had a hard
life? good God man half the world has!
I particularly liked the bit about you being a cocaine addict who
managed to drag ( violin strings here) himself out of the gutter,
well guess what when you were still in nappies (diapers for the
Americans) many of us were experimenting with chemical substances
and the vast majority never got hooked, guess that says plenty
about your physce.

The vast majority of the world are not prostitutes or drug addicts,
a lot of it is circumstances some of it is choice. If you wish to
crusade against such "evils" then by all means do so, but perhaps
the slums of India or Bangkok would be more worthy of your
endevours than this forum. I think the photos were superb, the
commentary a little less so.

Kind Regards
Dennis

--
'lifes too short to drink bad wine'

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D P O'neil said:

could go to India and put an end to this dreadful scourge of
prostitution.

Really your bleeding heart liberalism is becoming nonsensical,
twice you have somehow compared yourself to these people by telling
us how you had a hard upbringing and had been shot!. Well who
cares! Do you think you are the only person who has had a hard
life? good God man half the world has!
I particularly liked the bit about you being a cocaine addict who
managed to drag ( violin strings here) himself out of the gutter,
well guess what when you were still in nappies (diapers for the
Americans) many of us were experimenting with chemical substances
and the vast majority never got hooked, guess that says plenty
about your physce.

The vast majority of the world are not prostitutes or drug addicts,
a lot of it is circumstances some of it is choice. If you wish to
crusade against such "evils" then by all means do so, but perhaps
the slums of India or Bangkok would be more worthy of your
endevours than this forum. I think the photos were superb, the
commentary a little less so.

Kind Regards
Dennis

--
'lifes too short to drink bad wine'

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Bvcuma said:

.. this situation has come completely unglued.
As such I have found a rare opportunity for self examination
that does not come all too often in ones life.

To laugh with these prostitutes was one thing..
to laugh AT them whether out of habit, pleasure, ignorance,
fear, discomfort....or whatever..
well its not how I would like to respond.
It makes a mockery out of what I think I am pursuing.
In a long and convoluted process I have come to realize this..acutely.
I can understand Melanie's "instinct" to take action for whatever
reasons.
I have done so here myself...and elsewhere.
It simply grips you.

Try to understand, what you experience via my posts..
is merely a 5 or 10 min glimpse into this world of theirs.
It is not so different for me either really..
5 or 10 hours out and about, here and there..
and I am home to hot food and a warm clean bed.
I work on the images and post them with some degree
of relative detachment..happy with the shoot,
and in anticpation of a well recieved response from you all.
So I too in my own way view them as if across a screen...
that changes from day to day.
They come and go in my life...
and I can only really absorb so much.

Anyway...
when Melanie refreshed my memory
with her sharp text and that harsh reality link
http://www.maryellenmark.com/frames/falkland.html
It was as if I were a dog and having peed on the floor
was having my nose rubbed in it..
I had to taste it in a very very literal sense..
my whole being was so completey repulsed..
I have a good idea what that scene is all about..
and could suddenly connect and fill in all the gaps
of that grimey, semen soaked, aids infested gutter life existence

I was wrong in taking a lite (humurous) and then defensive posture.
No, this was the harsh reality.. and I could not handle it.
But it did cement my resolve to put down my life...
for 6 months or so to examine myself in a retreat situation.
Otherwise my sorry @ss ambitions may have allowed
me one lame excuse or another to just continue on
la-di-da at this very crucial mid-point in my life.

Regardless,
None of us is perfect..we all suffer from our lack of awareness
and social conditionings that heavily curbs our intelligence.
I am not one to judge... anybody,
I really have more than enough
to concern "myself" with.

So... a very clean break from all that.

Here is a boy I had planned to post weeks back.
He has been sitting one my web page..
patiently waiting to say hello.





And when I viewed this image last night..
I wept profusley.
I could see the parallel..
That I too was soiled by this earthly existance,
yet somewhere under all the dirt and grime
there does shine an innocence like that
which radiates from his eyes.



Yes I need a break.. a real break
no I am not looking to post elsewhere,
nor start some ambitious web site.
I imagine a complete disengagement will not yet
manifest for a couple of months still.
Till then I will post on occasion some
of the images which are waiting in my files.

Till then best wishes all..
Bvcuma

btw
if you wish to view my images to date..they are here
http://www.pbase.com/bvcuma/root

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Evil Eggplant said:

Oh my God! Bruce made the connection. WOW! Those women live an
absolutely miserable, hopeless life. I am so glad you figured this
out.

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West of Cary said:

But let us not forget the wisdom contained in one of the all-time
"challenges" to a wrong:
Let (the one) without sin cast the first stone.
It is foolish to expect or demand perfection from ourselves, or
each other.
In the former case masochism breeds, and in the latter,
self-righteous sadism. I am not judging or suggesting that this is
what is going on anymore than we are all guilty of both mistakes,
sins if you will, only varying in particulars. I think though for
any of us (us= any 2 or more persons) to have a prayer of
meaningful, nurturing coexistence (? a weak definition of love),
then we must live forgiveness. We can never meet our own
expectations of how and what we should be. Neither can we live to
others expectations, nor they to ours. So, either we learn
forgiveness, which has an infinitely deeper content than tolerance,
or mere civility, or we continue to breed contempt, and further our
distances away from each other, and away from what we truly hope
for ourselves.

Please receive this in a spirit of confession (as I am no less
guilty than any), and in forgiveness.

Peace.
--
West

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Bvcuma said:

West of Cary said:

But let us not forget the wisdom contained in one of the all-time
"challenges" to a wrong:
Let (the one) without sin cast the first stone.
It is foolish to expect or demand perfection from ourselves, or
each other.
In the former case masochism breeds, and in the latter,
self-righteous sadism. I am not judging or suggesting that this is
what is going on anymore than we are all guilty of both mistakes,
sins if you will, only varying in particulars. I think though for
any of us (us= any 2 or more persons) to have a prayer of
meaningful, nurturing coexistence (? a weak definition of love),
then we must live forgiveness. We can never meet our own
expectations of how and what we should be. Neither can we live to
others expectations, nor they to ours. So, either we learn
forgiveness, which has an infinitely deeper content than tolerance,
or mere civility, or we continue to breed contempt, and further our
distances away from each other, and away from what we truly hope
for ourselves.

Please receive this in a spirit of confession (as I am no less
guilty than any), and in forgiveness.

Peace.
--
West

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