D70 pix from Perth

He has probably no 21" FD Trinitron... I see every pixel mate! and the noise in the sky is more than good visible everywhere.

But I'm slowly getting used to that issue... so much of the D70 is great, so I just workaround that prob... like you have with allmost every cam on its weak spot...
Which of the ISO 200's do you find noisy ?

Cheers,

Daniel.
If you describe "noisy" as I am, then all pics with sky. Tree,
blossoms ... You think this "testure" on sky is normal?
 
Tommorow morning I will reshoot some. Remember, most of these were shot at 4 megapixels... I messed up my settings.

Daniel.
LammahKillah said:
McErono said:
He has probably no 21" FD Trinitron... I see every pixel mate! and
the noise in the sky is more than good visible everywhere.

But I'm slowly getting used to that issue... so much of the D70 is
great, so I just workaround that prob... like you have with allmost
every cam on its weak spot...
To see the noise and agree with some workaround is completely
different thing, than saying "there is no noise" or "you should by
canon" :)
On the other hand, dslr should have much less noise comparing to
compacs at least comparing a sensor size. There is no big point in
argumenting like "so I just workaround that prob... " in case of
noisy pictures. On dlsr should not be such problem at all (more or
less) comparing with compacts.
I think, that all realise the other aspects which dslr can provide,
but we discussing on some noise there.
D70 is very adequate at iso800-1600. But some strange things on
iso200are present.

Maybe somebody could make a few pictures of tree on sky with all
sharpness settings to compare? Maybe with sharpness set to low
noise would be less agressive?
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He has probably no 21" FD Trinitron... I see every pixel mate! and
the noise in the sky is more than good visible everywhere.

But I'm slowly getting used to that issue... so much of the D70 is
great, so I just workaround that prob... like you have with allmost
every cam on its weak spot...
To see the noise and agree with some workaround is completely different thing, than saying "there is no noise" or "you should by canon" :)

On the other hand, dslr should have much less noise comparing to compacs at least comparing a sensor size. There is no big point in argumenting like "so I just workaround that prob... " in case of noisy pictures. On dlsr should not be such problem at all (more or less) comparing with compacts.

I think, that all realise the other aspects which dslr can provide, but we discussing on some noise there.

D70 is very adequate at iso800-1600. But some strange things on iso200are present.

Maybe somebody could make a few pictures of tree on sky with all sharpness settings to compare? Maybe with sharpness set to low noise would be less agressive?
 
Daniel.
He has probably no 21" FD Trinitron... I see every pixel mate! and
the noise in the sky is more than good visible everywhere.

But I'm slowly getting used to that issue... so much of the D70 is
great, so I just workaround that prob... like you have with allmost
every cam on its weak spot...
To see the noise and agree with some workaround is completely
different thing, than saying "there is no noise" or "you should by
canon" :)
On the other hand, dslr should have much less noise comparing to
compacs at least comparing a sensor size. There is no big point in
argumenting like "so I just workaround that prob... " in case of
noisy pictures. On dlsr should not be such problem at all (more or
less) comparing with compacts.
I think, that all realise the other aspects which dslr can provide,
but we discussing on some noise there.
D70 is very adequate at iso800-1600. But some strange things on
iso200are present.

Maybe somebody could make a few pictures of tree on sky with all
sharpness settings to compare? Maybe with sharpness set to low
noise would be less agressive?
--
http://www.pbase.com/snaggs
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Harry
 
Before I "talk dust" I just want to point out that these shots are OUTSTANDING and that you clearly have a good command of the camera already. My enthusiasm is building every day. I also greatly appreciate your sharing of your work for our enjoyment

I do see about 3 identical spots across the sky in the pano. This will be my first dslr and I'm clueless about the "dust" issue. I'm not the most meticulous person and I fear that I'll run into trouble down the if I mis-handle sensor cleaning etc.

An employee at Ritz said I should have the sensor cleaned professionally (bring it to them for a hefty fee) -

Can someone with experience chime in here and clear up (pun intended) this issue and offer any guidance to those of us joining the dslr community?

Again - great shots Daniel - thanks for showing them off!

Best regards,

Keith McKane
Daniel.
I noticed that sharpening before saving as jpeg made a larger file
(obviously easier for jpeg compression to work on blurry areas). So
to give a contrast, I've saved a crop after the following process

NEF
Medium Sharpening in PictureProject
Export to JPEG (highest quality)
Opened in NoiseNinja, noise removed (made a profile on the spot
from the image)
Saved as JPEG 95%
Opened in photoshop and cropped
Saved as JPEG 10



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Tommorow morning I will reshoot some. Remember, most of these were
shot at 4 megapixels... I messed up my settings.

Daniel.
Thanks a lot. I wish to understand where is the problem. Or it hardly depends on camera settings, or some other things ...
Try to use normal, medium-low, low sharpness settings at maximum quality.

Sincerely
 
The total lack of noise to me looks too plastic like to my eye. the noise in the sky resembles fine grain film when magnified. printed at A4 should look great, even without noise reduction. Noise reduction might improve the image if its is used to reduce it . Not eliminate it. people seem overly concernd about what it looks like at 100% on there montor. An 8x10 printed ar 1400 dpi will tell a differnt story.
Daniel.
applied DEE in Capture 4, high pass filter, 2 cycles of Neat Image...
Ok, I turned the Camera sharpening to the lowest (Normal) and shot
a NEF (dont think the sharpening even effects it). Then exported
straight to JPEG with no sharpening applied, didn't even rotate it.



The original is available on my pbase, its over 6meg jpg though, so
wont be uploading too many more whoppers :)

Anyone got the full version of Noise Ninja to do a sharpened
version after noise removal ?
This picture doesn't need any sharpening IMHO. Nice, crisp, clean
image. It really puts my mind at ease re. preorder. Thanks for all
your efforts.
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I just wanted to make a "Canon like"... NR is just for long exposure on the D70 not for normal shots...

printed the original looks fine...
Daniel.
applied DEE in Capture 4, high pass filter, 2 cycles of Neat Image...
Ok, I turned the Camera sharpening to the lowest (Normal) and shot
a NEF (dont think the sharpening even effects it). Then exported
straight to JPEG with no sharpening applied, didn't even rotate it.



The original is available on my pbase, its over 6meg jpg though, so
wont be uploading too many more whoppers :)

Anyone got the full version of Noise Ninja to do a sharpened
version after noise removal ?
This picture doesn't need any sharpening IMHO. Nice, crisp, clean
image. It really puts my mind at ease re. preorder. Thanks for all
your efforts.
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http://www.pbase.com/snaggs
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Craig H. north jersey
http://www.pbase.com/craigh
 
FYI Daniel, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong...but the normal sharpening setting isn't the lowest. I believe there is a low sharpening and even a no sharpening setting (maybe even another one too). It would be great to see a few similar shots with normal and less sharpening settings.

Thanks for your posts!
Ok, I turned the Camera sharpening to the lowest (Normal) and shot
a NEF (dont think the sharpening even effects it). Then exported
straight to JPEG with no sharpening applied, didn't even rotate it.



The original is available on my pbase, its over 6meg jpg though, so
wont be uploading too many more whoppers :)

Anyone got the full version of Noise Ninja to do a sharpened
version after noise removal ?

Daniel.
 
The total lack of noise to me looks too plastic like to my eye.
the noise in the sky resembles fine grain film when magnified.
printed at A4 should look great, even without noise reduction.
Noise reduction might improve the image if its is used to reduce it
. Not eliminate it. people seem overly concernd about what it looks
like at 100% on there montor. An 8x10 printed ar 1400 dpi will tell
a differnt story.
I'm totally with you, CraigH.

I too think that totally noise free images looks a bit artificial. Like too much Neat Image. If the noise bugs you think about this. Viewing the pictures at 100% is not a real world senario. It's like looking on a photo under the magnifier, I sure don't look at photos that way. If I want to see my pictures on screen I would resize them at least under 50% to fit on my screen. That will greatly reduce the noise. And when printing the images for a standard album (not huge blowups) the skynoise will not be visble. So I really don't understand the fuzz about the noise but hey...maybe I'm just weird. :)

Kay
 
About 20m down off the west end of Rottnest and underneath Busselton Jetty :-) You do have a housing for the D70 don't you? LOL

Paul
Daniel.
Paul
Hi,

I posted this in the clubsnap forum, but thought some people here
might like to see;







Note that the last two were shot in "medium" by accident.

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Amazing ! Also, it is about as good as an 8 megapixel digicam at iiso 400

Stuart
This is a shot I took the night I got it, the bus came by, and I
just mashed the shutter... 3 fps is usefull, and ISO 1600 makes
night come to light.... the photo looks brighter than it was with
my eyes, it was night time!

One thing with this photo, I accidently ran 2 lots of sharpening on
it in PictureProject, but then I'm learning. Personally, I love the
noise characteristics of this camera.

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I've never had a DSLR, so didn't know where to look. Thinking about
it, when my Cannonite friend came over he did take the lens off to
see whether it was a Pentaprism or Pentamirror. Anyways, not sure
if we turned the Camera off first...

If I turn it off, will compressed air just be ok ? Like the stuff
you use to clean slides before scanning.
Dont use comp air. I had a spec on my D70 also (first digi SLR) and used the standard blow brush BUT with the BRUSH TAKEN OFF no contact, just turn the camera upside down and a couple of quick puffs and all is well.

Andy Z
 

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