Very Large Array

Michael Worley · Mar 4, 2004

. . . just happened to coincide with how long we were able to shoot. I learned a couple of lessons there:

1) Don't dink around with preliminary compositions; head right to the good parts; and

2) Head to the good parts right off because you might get kicked out.

Mike
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gho · Mar 4, 2004

I really like how you composed those shots.

You really manage to move the eyes in and out of the picture with that first one.

I really like the second one where all the dishes converge at the bottom right.

I also like how the three "human array" matches the VLA. So is that Mr. Worley with the tripod stuck betwen his legs?

I wish I could go on a shoot with you, I know that I would learn much from you. But alas, I can't afford it (yet).

Thanks for posting these for me. I really enjoyed them.

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RecalcitrantRon · Mar 4, 2004

I am always amazed with how sharp your photos are Ron. Mine always look like mud.

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Michael Worley · Mar 4, 2004

. . . with that big unit dangling there.

I was kinda rushed, and using my tripod in "unsupported, collapsed monopod mode," a rare maneouver usually limited to the high, cold plains of New Mexico. Unfortunately, the EXIF data fails to record this effort, so I can't report how it came out.

Regards,

Mike

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gho · Mar 4, 2004

That's pretty funny. You look pretty bundled up there with your gloves n hood n all

Glad to finally see ya! I guess you've already seen me.

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Ozzy13 · Mar 4, 2004

15 minutes. Ouch. Don't you hate rushing in freezing weather. Yeah, too bad EXIF data doesn't include the ambient temperature at the time the image was captured! I would love to see temperature data on a lot of Yves Winter shots...

Rob

Michael Worley said:
. . . with that big unit dangling there.

I was kinda rushed, and using my tripod in "unsupported, collapsed
monopod mode," a rare maneouver usually limited to the high, cold
plains of New Mexico. Unfortunately, the EXIF data fails to record
this effort, so I can't report how it came out.

Regards,

Mike

Mike
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Michael Worley · Mar 4, 2004

EXIF recording temperature would at least be a conversation starter.

My wife's family lives about 6 miles from Yves' neighborhood, and I've frequently asked them over the last months what the temperature is. Older people tend to still talk in Fahrenheit, and younger ones in Celsius, but I don't know where my all my in-laws fit. Anyhow, the answer was invariably "30 below" or "35 below." As Yves said once, it doesn't matter how you translate that, that's f#cking cold.

There at the VLA, the thermometer was reporting 12 degrees Fahrenheit, and hands started hurting fast. That was also freaking cold.

Mike
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Michael Worley · Mar 4, 2004

. . . not exactly an exceptional picture of me, but Paul Fry posted one of me this morning taken from much closer. As for you, I've seen images of some of your lovely children and your amazing aquariums, but so far your ugly mug has eluded me.

Kind regards,

Mike
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gho · Mar 4, 2004

Michael Worley said:
. . . not exactly an exceptional picture of me, but Paul Fry posted
one of me this morning taken from much closer.

I'll have to look for that.

Michael Worley said:
As for you, I've seen images of some of your lovely children

Thank you

Michael Worley said:
and your amazing aquariums...

Thank you again, they are a lot of effort, but I really enjoy them.

Michael Worley said:
but so far your ugly mug has eluded me.

My ugly mug - self portrait in my digital darkroom:

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James Rulison · Mar 4, 2004

Michael Worley said:
. . . just happened to coincide with how long we were able to
shoot. I learned a couple of lessons there:

1) Don't dink around with preliminary compositions; head right to
the good parts; and

2) Head to the good parts right off because you might get kicked out.

Mike
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'Always act with deliberation' - Bat Masterson

This begs the question did you guys get booted out?

Ron Reznick · Mar 4, 2004

Yes, we did. The good perspectives were not from where they allow tourists to hang out. We showed up before most folks would be out there, and it took a while for someone to go get us. The fellow was quite pleasant... but it certainly helped that we had gotten our shots before he drove up there though.

Most of us got several more shots while we were moving back to the "tourist zone". See Mike's evaluation of the technique :^)

Ron

James Rulison said:
Michael Worley said:

. . . just happened to coincide with how long we were able to
shoot. I learned a couple of lessons there:

1) Don't dink around with preliminary compositions; head right to
the good parts; and

2) Head to the good parts right off because you might get kicked out.

Mike
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'Always act with deliberation' - Bat Masterson

Click to expand...

This begs the question did you guys get booted out?

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Ron Reznick · Mar 4, 2004

Shutter speeds like some of these needed pretty much require a tripod. Some of the later ones could be done with a solid hold (and I did handhold the last two in the second post). Where you acquire the focus lock and the aperture and lens used along with getting a solid focus lock helps.

I still mess up often enough to remind me I'm not done learning, though.

Ron

RecalcitrantRon said:
I am always amazed with how sharp your photos are Ron. Mine always
look like mud.

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shudderbug2 · Mar 4, 2004

Are you finding the DR of the D2H is better then the current crop of DSLR's?

Your shots are truly amazing. If you haven't looked at Rory's post on the D2H noise characteristics you should. He did a great study. I notice how clean your images are and obviously that equates to nailing the exposure. My question is how close do you find the D2H metering in comparision with Rory's conclusions? Do you use any exposure compensation?
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Ron Reznick said:
Shot on a freezing cold morning after the Bosque session. 17-35,
25mm, 1/60 @ f/11:

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Ed Leys20479 · Mar 4, 2004

...it reminded me of this :

My best,

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Michael Worley · Mar 4, 2004

. . . that's a buncha screens 'n' CPU's and stuff that I can't even identify! The lights in the neighborhood must dim when you turn it all on!

I do see the dpreview.com screen there on the left, and what looks like to me to be a dual screen set up over on the right there. More than that I can't begin to speculate about. Heck, I get confused going from the laptop to the desktop here at home.

In any event, you certainly look the confident lord and master of your domain! And a fine picture it is, too.

Regards,

Mike

Michael Worley · Mar 4, 2004

. . . is Ron's middle name. And the fellow who came to remove us was cool, too. And everybody acted polite and things went very smoothly. And it didn't hurt that we had a genuine firefighter lieutenant with us to chat up the VLA guy.

These things CAN go wrong, however. Depends on who talks to the authority figure first and how they do it. Five of us actually got arrested once for bicycle riding in a county park! All because the deputy happened to stop the one guy in the group who just couldn't restrain himself for a few minutes.

Bob Morrison · Mar 4, 2004

Wow! What a great stock photo. You could sell that one again and again . . . or have you?
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Ed Leys said:
...it reminded me of this :

My best,

Ed

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sprockett · Mar 4, 2004

MARVELOUS composition.
i LOVE the absolute absolute horizontalness of ur shot...

the way everything is in focus makes it look like more a pattern than anything else.. one of those repeating patterns that get smaller and smaller...

excellent colors too...

care to share your workflow for this one?

Ron Reznick said:
Shot on a freezing cold morning after the Bosque session. 17-35,
25mm, 1/60 @ f/11:

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Ron Reznick · Mar 5, 2004

Great job, Rory.

David, if you expose properly you've got more headroom on the highlight end and good detail (with some noise between 30 and 90) in the shadows. Shallower-contrast scenes have less trouble than those with deep shadows. The more you have to bring up the shadows, the worse the noise. Expose as close to properly as possible for best results (as usual).

I apply EV compensation as required by the scene and the metering mode used. It all depends on what the metering mode is and what the luminosity of the subject (or scene) is... if the scene or subject averages around middle grey it will not require much if any EV adjustment. If the scene is primarily dark with bright highlights, and the average of the scene or metered area is 64, of course it will require -EV adjustment. The key is being able to evaluate luminosity, and either use your knowledge of the required EV to compensate, adjust and shoot; or test-shoot and evaluate the histogram based on your knowledge of the scene. In a hurry, it's useful to be able to do the former. It's always a good idea to check yourself after the fact until you're not making many mistakes.

Ron

shudderbug2 said:
Your shots are truly amazing. If you haven't looked at Rory's post
on the D2H noise characteristics you should. He did a great study.
I notice how clean your images are and obviously that equates to
nailing the exposure. My question is how close do you find the D2H
metering in comparision with Rory's conclusions? Do you use any
exposure compensation?
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=7879050
Kind Regards,

David Anderson
RR Ebook supporter!

Ron Reznick said:

Shot on a freezing cold morning after the Bosque session. 17-35,
25mm, 1/60 @ f/11:

Click to expand...

shudderbug2 said:

Ron
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Ed Leys20479 · Mar 6, 2004

Hey, Thank's a lot, Bob. I really appreciate your comment. Truth is though, and this is despite having gallery presentation recently, I do this photography stuff mainly for myself and a few interested friends...I have no interest in making money from it. Even in the gallery I deliberately kept my photographs off sale (not that people didn't want to buy them).

My best,

Ed

Bob Morrison said:
Ed Leys said:

...it reminded me of this :

http://www.blackmallard.com/cal_ls/cls53b.jpg

My best,

Ed

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