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Lajos Hajdu said:
Can anyone explain to me what the "vignetting" is that the reviewer
complains about? Is it the bad blurriness of the vertical cables in
the bridge picture? Because that sure seems unacceptable to me...
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Vignetting s the gradual fading on the edges, best noticed on sky at top left and right corners of the pictures.

Blurriness of the cables is most likely caused by air humidity.
 
The review seems like a mixed bag. Most of the issues that have had people concerned seem to be justified. These are low light focusing, noise at > iso 100, and the EVF. The vignetting is very surprising. The review did aleviate some of my concern about the electronic zoom. I really wished that IS was included.

Am looking forward to the A2 review. Not sure if it will test better in that the cameras are readily available but none have been thoroughly reviewed. Is that intentional?

Still pondering.....A2, Pro1, D Rebel, 10d..................
 
Lajos Hajdu said:
Can anyone explain to me what the "vignetting" is that the reviewer
complains about? Is it the bad blurriness of the vertical cables in
the bridge picture? Because that sure seems unacceptable to me...
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Vignetting means darkening of the corners of an image. You can see it best on the test picture with the grid and the big red dot in the center. It's visible on the right hand image edge, especially in the corners. It can be seen in real-life examples on DCResource too, look at the blue sky in the upper right corners.. But it's not much, though..

The problem is in the marketing value of the "L type lens". You don't expect vignetting at all from the L lenses.

Greetings, Aleksandar
 
I will use only the iso 50 maybe 100. In iso 50 the noise is not that bad IMHO. Why would i use iso 400 for, the nightshot in iso 50 is good enough for me

herman Boer
 
Judging from the images I am not so sure that the PSP1 is any better than F828 when it comes to noise! PF sure is better though. For me the Sony is still slightly in the lead but it has probably more to do with the handling and feel of the camera than the image quality, which to all practical ends are quite comparable.

At least in my opinion!
 
jomabu said:
Anyone know how well Neat Image will correct the ISO 200 night
shot? The ISO 400 shot looks hopeless..
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I just downloaded and NeatImaged the iso200 shot. That software is a gem, especially considering that it's free for home use. It took away the noise beautifully, and I noticed no decrease in the sharpness/detail level, even when watching the pic in the original size on my screen.

However, I'm quite sure that even NeatImage would have to make the iso400 shot less detailed to take away all that noise.

And the fact is that these cameras are supposed to take very very good pictures. Post-processing with NeatImage still feels a little like cheating to me.
 
Hmm, so far I like the Pro1... but am reserving my final decision until I can see more on the Olympus 8080 (which has some additional shooting features I'd like to have).
 
AMomcil said:
Jeff just posted Pro1 final review:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_pro1-review/index.shtml

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Greetings, Aleksandar
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Reading some reactions here, and seeing some real noise and vignetting, I wonder which way to go? The question is what I am really liking about the photography. Thru truth is, I can't express myself exactly, so here is how I feel about my needs:

currently I own Canon G2, but I think I a little bit outgrown my camera, or I ust can't handle it. From our last party, from some 40 photos, I would mark as usable only less than 10. On average I get less than 5% of out-of focus images, but this time it was simply way too much for my liking. Some photos were unusable, because I start to have certain requirements for image composition.

Next thing - we visit mountains from time to time and sharp sun was sometimes a problem for my G2.

The thing I liked about my G2 was swivelling LCD

What I missed from time to time was a bit more of a zoom than 3x available.

Now as my friend is willing to buy G2 from me, I wonder what should I get. Is that Pro1? (better zoom, better LCD, much better macro). Or should it be 300D? 6MPx is enough for me, but it is also probably much bulkier to carry around and I am used to compose images using LCD currently, so I am not sure I would not miss the feature with 300D. The price of both seems to be nearly the same.

Any advice? Which one will provides me with more creativity? 300D has only 3x zoom, unless I buy additional lenses ...

Sometimes the decision is not all that easy :-)

-pekr-
 
I just forgot to say, the the third way to go might be buying G5 as an interim solution - it has G3 internals, so more accurate focusing, ND filter etc. ....

-pekr-
 
Jeff did a better (more critical/accurate) review on Pro-1 than S1 imo. i'm not qualified to comment much on such an advanced camera, but like others will be interested to see how coming 8 mps compare.

low-level observations:

Pro-1 is a beautiful cam. course we don't buy cameras to look At them ;)

as a photog simpleton, it's nice that Canon kept menu functions familiar and easy to understand/navigate.

that being said, the image quality is nothing to write home about. course folks who use this level of cam prolly do a lot of pp, and the RAW image may be much better than i appreciate.

Karen
 
So that's the famous "L" lens quality. Like I said numerous times before but apparently nobody wanted to believe me: the "L"-blabla on the Pro1 was an excellent sample about how a good marketing team can mislead everybody. Come on.. vignetting on a fixed lens... go back to the drawing board Canon!

The vignetting, the poor low-light-focussing, the poor EVF visibility in low-light (so manual focussing is also not possible), no live histogram, ancient movie-mode, zoom by wire are things that don't make me very happy.

I hope the Minolta A2 will be better, if not then I'll just skip this batch of 8MP's and wait for half a year or so. But I doubt it will be worse then the Pro1. It has way more features like the Anti-Shake, a descent movie-mode, mechanical zoom, live histogram, focus tracking, ....

And the body is proven (on the A1), the AS system is proven (on the A1), the lens is proven (on the D7* and A1)... and image quality will not be far apart from one of the other 8MP's.
AMomcil said:
Jeff just posted Pro1 final review:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_pro1-review/index.shtml
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I was really suprised by the compact size of the camera. I'm not hot on the idea of spending $900+ with the noise levels shown.

I don't see the benefit of these new 8MP cams yet. Give me a cleaner 5MP image than I have now and I'll be happier.
Karen 5 said:
Jeff did a better (more critical/accurate) review on Pro-1 than S1
imo. i'm not qualified to comment much on such an advanced
camera, but like others will be interested to see how coming 8 mps
compare.

low-level observations:

Pro-1 is a beautiful cam. course we don't buy cameras to look At
them ;)
as a photog simpleton, it's nice that Canon kept menu functions
familiar and easy to understand/navigate.

that being said, the image quality is nothing to write home about.
course folks who use this level of cam prolly do a lot of pp, and
the RAW image may be much better than i appreciate.

Karen
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