my own 828 - g5 comparison

joecorey said:

oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

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I also work at Best Buy in the digital imaging dept. I am able to
test many cameras before buying, I've spent lots of time testing
and comparing the 300D, 828, FujiS7000, and the G5. I printed
samples on an HP 7760 from all the cameras. The 828 was my most
recent purchase. I didn't buy it for it's 8mp. I bought it for the
mech. zoom, cf slot+memory stick, and the excellent detail it was
able to capture. I have to say that of all the non-slr digitals,
the g-5 was probably the best performer overall until the 828
showed up. I absolutely love the canon images, don't know if it's
the digic processor or what but they looked great even when
enlarged several times. I liked the 828 because of the mechanical
zoom, I will never go back to the electric zoom after using it. The
build quality is awesome, it feels like a real camera. The power up
time is very fast (main complaint with the 300D) and shutter lag is
almost not there. As far as noise is concerned, I'm coming from
35mm where I shoot 800 speed quite often so the 828 grain at 400 or
even 800 doesn't really bother me. I also use neat image if it gets
to bad. Much better to capture the shot and have noise then to not
capture the shot at all. My only complaints with the 828 are of
course the pf. It's easily dealt with and I remind myself that any
camera to include my Nikon N80 are capable of producing some kind
of chromatic abberation. With the g-5 it seemed to be blue fringing
instead of purple. ANyway, both are great cameras more than capable
of pro quality images however the 828 definitely has the g-5 beat
as far as image quality is concerned.

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Bill Palumbo said:

joecorey said:

oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

Click to expand...

I also work at Best Buy in the digital imaging dept. I am able to
test many cameras before buying, I've spent lots of time testing
and comparing the 300D, 828, FujiS7000, and the G5. I printed
samples on an HP 7760 from all the cameras. The 828 was my most
recent purchase. I didn't buy it for it's 8mp. I bought it for the
mech. zoom, cf slot+memory stick, and the excellent detail it was
able to capture. I have to say that of all the non-slr digitals,
the g-5 was probably the best performer overall until the 828
showed up. I absolutely love the canon images, don't know if it's
the digic processor or what but they looked great even when
enlarged several times. I liked the 828 because of the mechanical
zoom, I will never go back to the electric zoom after using it. The
build quality is awesome, it feels like a real camera. The power up
time is very fast (main complaint with the 300D) and shutter lag is
almost not there. As far as noise is concerned, I'm coming from
35mm where I shoot 800 speed quite often so the 828 grain at 400 or
even 800 doesn't really bother me. I also use neat image if it gets
to bad. Much better to capture the shot and have noise then to not
capture the shot at all. My only complaints with the 828 are of
course the pf. It's easily dealt with and I remind myself that any
camera to include my Nikon N80 are capable of producing some kind
of chromatic abberation. With the g-5 it seemed to be blue fringing
instead of purple. ANyway, both are great cameras more than capable
of pro quality images however the 828 definitely has the g-5 beat
as far as image quality is concerned.

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I should hope so! The 828 is NEW and the G5 is essentially 'last
years' model. I have to say that this thread is really trying to
compare apples and oranges. The 828 SHOULD be compared to the new
Canon models like the Pro1.

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mike bustad said:

oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

Click to expand...

--
Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.

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joecorey said:

oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

Click to expand...

I also work at Best Buy in the digital imaging dept. I am able to
test many cameras before buying, I've spent lots of time testing
and comparing the 300D, 828, FujiS7000, and the G5. I printed
samples on an HP 7760 from all the cameras. The 828 was my most
recent purchase. I didn't buy it for it's 8mp. I bought it for the
mech. zoom, cf slot+memory stick, and the excellent detail it was
able to capture. I have to say that of all the non-slr digitals,
the g-5 was probably the best performer overall until the 828
showed up. I absolutely love the canon images, don't know if it's
the digic processor or what but they looked great even when
enlarged several times. I liked the 828 because of the mechanical
zoom, I will never go back to the electric zoom after using it. The
build quality is awesome, it feels like a real camera. The power up
time is very fast (main complaint with the 300D) and shutter lag is
almost not there. As far as noise is concerned, I'm coming from
35mm where I shoot 800 speed quite often so the 828 grain at 400 or
even 800 doesn't really bother me. I also use neat image if it gets
to bad. Much better to capture the shot and have noise then to not
capture the shot at all. My only complaints with the 828 are of
course the pf. It's easily dealt with and I remind myself that any
camera to include my Nikon N80 are capable of producing some kind
of chromatic abberation. With the g-5 it seemed to be blue fringing
instead of purple. ANyway, both are great cameras more than capable
of pro quality images however the 828 definitely has the g-5 beat
as far as image quality is concerned.

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Lucem said:

In all honesty if f-828 have any bragging rights is certainly not
in the image quality department.
Is in speed.
This is was Dave from Imaging Resource said in his f-828 review
conclusion.
"The fastest prosumer digicam on the planet? - Maybe so..."
http://www.veer.com/Pix/SILL/DVI/DVI0614049_

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joe corey said:

The comparison here is between the g-5 and the 828. Apples to
oranges of course. Both are capable of superb images. The G-5 is in
a different class than the 828, not to mention it's half the price.
No one is bragging but the 828's image quality to me is better than
the G5's. I have both, use both, I know so I can say it.

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joecorey said:

oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

Click to expand...

I also work at Best Buy in the digital imaging dept. I am able to
test many cameras before buying, I've spent lots of time testing
and comparing the 300D, 828, FujiS7000, and the G5. I printed
samples on an HP 7760 from all the cameras. The 828 was my most
recent purchase. I didn't buy it for it's 8mp. I bought it for the
mech. zoom, cf slot+memory stick, and the excellent detail it was
able to capture. I have to say that of all the non-slr digitals,
the g-5 was probably the best performer overall until the 828
showed up. I absolutely love the canon images, don't know if it's
the digic processor or what but they looked great even when
enlarged several times. I liked the 828 because of the mechanical
zoom, I will never go back to the electric zoom after using it. The
build quality is awesome, it feels like a real camera. The power up
time is very fast (main complaint with the 300D) and shutter lag is
almost not there. As far as noise is concerned, I'm coming from
35mm where I shoot 800 speed quite often so the 828 grain at 400 or
even 800 doesn't really bother me. I also use neat image if it gets
to bad. Much better to capture the shot and have noise then to not
capture the shot at all. My only complaints with the 828 are of
course the pf. It's easily dealt with and I remind myself that any
camera to include my Nikon N80 are capable of producing some kind
of chromatic abberation. With the g-5 it seemed to be blue fringing
instead of purple. ANyway, both are great cameras more than capable
of pro quality images however the 828 definitely has the g-5 beat
as far as image quality is concerned.

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b-rock said:

I'm afraid Marla hit it on the button when she said "BTW, you can't
imagine how much that f2.0 one stop difference means in low light,
and even helps with camera shake. They are amazing cameras IMO."

I'm re-thinking my almost-decision to go with the Pro1 or 8080
because all the G5 contenders seem to be pretenders, and the G5 is
$420 now.

joecorey said:

oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

Click to expand...

I also work at Best Buy in the digital imaging dept. I am able to
test many cameras before buying, I've spent lots of time testing
and comparing the 300D, 828, FujiS7000, and the G5. I printed
samples on an HP 7760 from all the cameras. The 828 was my most
recent purchase. I didn't buy it for it's 8mp. I bought it for the
mech. zoom, cf slot+memory stick, and the excellent detail it was
able to capture. I have to say that of all the non-slr digitals,
the g-5 was probably the best performer overall until the 828
showed up. I absolutely love the canon images, don't know if it's
the digic processor or what but they looked great even when
enlarged several times. I liked the 828 because of the mechanical
zoom, I will never go back to the electric zoom after using it. The
build quality is awesome, it feels like a real camera. The power up
time is very fast (main complaint with the 300D) and shutter lag is
almost not there. As far as noise is concerned, I'm coming from
35mm where I shoot 800 speed quite often so the 828 grain at 400 or
even 800 doesn't really bother me. I also use neat image if it gets
to bad. Much better to capture the shot and have noise then to not
capture the shot at all. My only complaints with the 828 are of
course the pf. It's easily dealt with and I remind myself that any
camera to include my Nikon N80 are capable of producing some kind
of chromatic abberation. With the g-5 it seemed to be blue fringing
instead of purple. ANyway, both are great cameras more than capable
of pro quality images however the 828 definitely has the g-5 beat
as far as image quality is concerned.

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Marla said:

Question: where is the G5 $420?

Comment: IMO, you might want to grab the G5......soon....as from
what I hear and see, the G5 will soon be discontinued. I got this
info at a seminar I attended 2 weeks ago.

Recently I was at B&H and asked the Canon rep (they have a full
time Canon representative working in the Canon portion of their
store with his own BIG display of cameras, etc.). He said he was
going to Canon this week and he will try to find out what the scoop
is on the G5. So, if I get back there I'll post any news he brings
back ??

Marla

b-rock said:

I'm afraid Marla hit it on the button when she said "BTW, you can't
imagine how much that f2.0 one stop difference means in low light,
and even helps with camera shake. They are amazing cameras IMO."

I'm re-thinking my almost-decision to go with the Pro1 or 8080
because all the G5 contenders seem to be pretenders, and the G5 is
$420 now.

joecorey said:

oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

Click to expand...

I also work at Best Buy in the digital imaging dept. I am able to
test many cameras before buying, I've spent lots of time testing
and comparing the 300D, 828, FujiS7000, and the G5. I printed
samples on an HP 7760 from all the cameras. The 828 was my most
recent purchase. I didn't buy it for it's 8mp. I bought it for the
mech. zoom, cf slot+memory stick, and the excellent detail it was
able to capture. I have to say that of all the non-slr digitals,
the g-5 was probably the best performer overall until the 828
showed up. I absolutely love the canon images, don't know if it's
the digic processor or what but they looked great even when
enlarged several times. I liked the 828 because of the mechanical
zoom, I will never go back to the electric zoom after using it. The
build quality is awesome, it feels like a real camera. The power up
time is very fast (main complaint with the 300D) and shutter lag is
almost not there. As far as noise is concerned, I'm coming from
35mm where I shoot 800 speed quite often so the 828 grain at 400 or
even 800 doesn't really bother me. I also use neat image if it gets
to bad. Much better to capture the shot and have noise then to not
capture the shot at all. My only complaints with the 828 are of
course the pf. It's easily dealt with and I remind myself that any
camera to include my Nikon N80 are capable of producing some kind
of chromatic abberation. With the g-5 it seemed to be blue fringing
instead of purple. ANyway, both are great cameras more than capable
of pro quality images however the 828 definitely has the g-5 beat
as far as image quality is concerned.

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Marla said:

interesting in purchasing a G3?

Mar

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oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

Click to expand...

Bill Palumbo said:

oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

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Hmmm.....A $500.00 G5 holding it's own against a $1000.00 Sony.
That makes me smile Go Canon!

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oluv said:

going home from work today i stopped at an electronic-store and
asked if i could try out their sony dcc-828 as i also had my canon
g5 with me so i could exchange my cf-card and take some shots with
both.
i couldn't take too many photos though, because the shopman seemed
a bit nerved. this way the photos i took inside all got blurred
because of handshake (probably because i was nervous too ;-)
but i was able to get out and also take one shot from the streetside.

of course the focal length was different from both cameras, so the
images are different, but as the canon has a longer focal length at
wideangle and a lower resolution the images become accidentaly
quite compareable in size...

if you are interested look at my primitive comparison:

http://www.pbase.com/oluv/828g5

Click to expand...

bauerman said:

Marla said:

interesting in purchasing a G3?

Mar

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Marla - I was interested at some point in purchasing a
G-something...G3 may be more preferrable from a picture quality
standpoint. Why?
--
Bauerman
http://www.bauerman.galleries.photoshare.co.nz

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urban75 said:

Lucem said:

Even worse is how some people are buying this 828 cr@p, like crazy.

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It's not a 'cr@p' camera. It's a well built camera capable of some
excellent results.

It's by no means perfect, but clueless, provocative comments like
yours achieve nothing.

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oluv said:

Mick Ruthven said:

What sharpening, in-camera or afterward, was applied to the images?

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Mick Ruthven said:

What were the in-camera sharpening settings?

oluv said:

Mick Ruthven said:

What sharpening, in-camera or afterward, was applied to the images?

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