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Haejun said:
Henry Goh said:
Here is a jpg from D70. Shot on Auto WB, f/5.6 70mm with the
18~70mm lens. I like the dynamic range and the accuracy of the
meter. I think this camera produces better out-of-box jpg than my
D100. I cannot comment yet on RAW files because without NC 4.1 I
cannot compare.



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So a 1GB card will only hold about 92 NEF's in D70? Maybe I'm not remembering right that 1GB in my D100 held 102 (or so) in uncompressed RAW. Where is the advantage? Am I missing something :)

Thanks.
Harvey Elmore said:
Carl Snyder said:
I thought D70's compressed NEF's is aprox. 1/2 size of D100's
uncompressed NEF. If I remember right, D100 NEF is around 9MB, so
I'm guessing D70 is 5MB or so - that would make close to 100 shots
per 512 card. Is this not right?

So you find the viewfinder ok? That's good to hear. I'm surprised
you find it brighter than D100. Does it look smaller with it's
.75x magnification vs. D100's .80x?

I see the 18-70mm lens has 3 ED elements and 1 aspherical lens
element - that's a lot of expensive elements, right? I'd like to
know how the 18-70mm compares to the 28-105mm (which I always
thought was a great, sharp lens for the price) and the 24-85mm
which has good reviews. Still don't know about investing in DX
lenses...

Thanks again for your input.
Henry Goh said:
Someone asked this earlier...

When you shoot RAW and the buffer fills up after 4 frames, the
write time to the next shot is about 1 sec. This is using a
Transcend 40x CF card.

When shooting RAW you get 48 photos on a 512Mb CF and when shooting
RAW + JPG basic, you get 44 photos. Pretty good is you asked me.

Henry Goh
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Carl Snyder said:
Thanks Henry.

I thought D70's compressed NEF's is aprox. 1/2 size of D100's
uncompressed NEF. If I remember right, D100 NEF is around 9MB, so
I'm guessing D70 is 5MB or so - that would make close to 100 shots
per 512 card. Is this not right?
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Nope RAW: 48 RAW + JPG: 44
Carl Snyder said:
So you find the viewfinder ok? That's good to hear. I'm surprised
you find it brighter than D100. Does it look smaller with it's
.75x magnification vs. D100's .80x?
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Slightly smaller but it's OK.
Carl Snyder said:
I see the 18-70mm lens has 3 ED elements and 1 aspherical lens
element - that's a lot of expensive elements, right? I'd like to
know how the 18-70mm compares to the 28-105mm (which I always
thought was a great, sharp lens for the price) and the 24-85mm
which has good reviews. Still don't know about investing in DX
lenses...
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Don't have the 28-105 or 24-85 but find 18-70 to be good overall.
Carl Snyder said:
Thanks again for your input.
Henry Goh said:
Someone asked this earlier...

When you shoot RAW and the buffer fills up after 4 frames, the
write time to the next shot is about 1 sec. This is using a
Transcend 40x CF card.

When shooting RAW you get 48 photos on a 512Mb CF and when shooting
RAW + JPG basic, you get 44 photos. Pretty good is you asked me.

Henry Goh
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Just put in my 1GB microdrive into D70. RAW: 99 RAW+JPG: 91
Carl Snyder said:
Thanks.
Harvey Elmore said:
Carl Snyder said:
I thought D70's compressed NEF's is aprox. 1/2 size of D100's
uncompressed NEF. If I remember right, D100 NEF is around 9MB, so
I'm guessing D70 is 5MB or so - that would make close to 100 shots
per 512 card. Is this not right?

So you find the viewfinder ok? That's good to hear. I'm surprised
you find it brighter than D100. Does it look smaller with it's
.75x magnification vs. D100's .80x?

I see the 18-70mm lens has 3 ED elements and 1 aspherical lens
element - that's a lot of expensive elements, right? I'd like to
know how the 18-70mm compares to the 28-105mm (which I always
thought was a great, sharp lens for the price) and the 24-85mm
which has good reviews. Still don't know about investing in DX
lenses...

Thanks again for your input.
Henry Goh said:
Someone asked this earlier...

When you shoot RAW and the buffer fills up after 4 frames, the
write time to the next shot is about 1 sec. This is using a
Transcend 40x CF card.

When shooting RAW you get 48 photos on a 512Mb CF and when shooting
RAW + JPG basic, you get 44 photos. Pretty good is you asked me.

Henry Goh
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The image rotation feature is nice but I find that because it is rotated during shooting, the image on the already small LCD becomes difficult to review. Image how it looks when you fit the portrait height into your current LCD height and you will know what I mean.

Henry Goh
 
Hmm...that works out to a 10MB RAW file. A quote one of Nikon's press releases states "In fact, nearly twice as many compressed NEF files can be written to a CompactFlash™ card, when compared to uncompressed NEF files".
Henry Goh said:
Carl Snyder said:
Thanks.
Harvey Elmore said:
Carl Snyder said:
I thought D70's compressed NEF's is aprox. 1/2 size of D100's
uncompressed NEF. If I remember right, D100 NEF is around 9MB, so
I'm guessing D70 is 5MB or so - that would make close to 100 shots
per 512 card. Is this not right?

So you find the viewfinder ok? That's good to hear. I'm surprised
you find it brighter than D100. Does it look smaller with it's
.75x magnification vs. D100's .80x?

I see the 18-70mm lens has 3 ED elements and 1 aspherical lens
element - that's a lot of expensive elements, right? I'd like to
know how the 18-70mm compares to the 28-105mm (which I always
thought was a great, sharp lens for the price) and the 24-85mm
which has good reviews. Still don't know about investing in DX
lenses...

Thanks again for your input.
Henry Goh said:
Someone asked this earlier...

When you shoot RAW and the buffer fills up after 4 frames, the
write time to the next shot is about 1 sec. This is using a
Transcend 40x CF card.

When shooting RAW you get 48 photos on a 512Mb CF and when shooting
RAW + JPG basic, you get 44 photos. Pretty good is you asked me.

Henry Goh
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Thanks for the education,
Harvey
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Henry Goh said:
Carl Snyder said:
Thanks Henry.

I thought D70's compressed NEF's is aprox. 1/2 size of D100's
uncompressed NEF. If I remember right, D100 NEF is around 9MB, so
I'm guessing D70 is 5MB or so - that would make close to 100 shots
per 512 card. Is this not right?
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Nope RAW: 48 RAW + JPG: 44
Henry Goh193503 said:
So you find the viewfinder ok? That's good to hear. I'm surprised
you find it brighter than D100. Does it look smaller with it's
.75x magnification vs. D100's .80x?
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Slightly smaller but it's OK.
Henry Goh193503 said:
I see the 18-70mm lens has 3 ED elements and 1 aspherical lens
element - that's a lot of expensive elements, right? I'd like to
know how the 18-70mm compares to the 28-105mm (which I always
thought was a great, sharp lens for the price) and the 24-85mm
which has good reviews. Still don't know about investing in DX
lenses...
Click to expand...
Don't have the 28-105 or 24-85 but find 18-70 to be good overall.
Henry Goh193503 said:
Thanks again for your input.
Henry Goh said:
Someone asked this earlier...

When you shoot RAW and the buffer fills up after 4 frames, the
write time to the next shot is about 1 sec. This is using a
Transcend 40x CF card.

When shooting RAW you get 48 photos on a 512Mb CF and when shooting
RAW + JPG basic, you get 44 photos. Pretty good is you asked me.

Henry Goh
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Hi Henry,

I know for many this is now a small issue, but for me with my D1x it has remained a MAJOR issue. Phil- when he reviewed the Canon budget SLR noted it had greatly improved Dust issues over previous Canon models....Can you speak about the new Nikon yet. Do you know if they did ANYTHING to improve upon this problem now that so many people will be using their cameras at this price point?
Thanks for your thoughts....Geat job with this post by the way......Howie
Henry Goh said:
Here is a jpg from D70. Shot on Auto WB, f/5.6 70mm with the
18~70mm lens. I like the dynamic range and the accuracy of the
meter. I think this camera produces better out-of-box jpg than my
D100. I cannot comment yet on RAW files because without NC 4.1 I
cannot compare.



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Howard,

I think its too new but so far I don't see any dust spots. There is also a built-in Dust off image function so that you can make the dust-off reference image to use with NC 4.1

In any case, sensor cleaning is not as big an issue nowadays. Nonetheless, it will still be a chore.

What I'm more concern is that there is no provision for using cable release. You need to buy and use a remote controller to fire if you want to avoid shake at long exposures.
Howard Mortman said:
Henry Goh said:
Here is a jpg from D70. Shot on Auto WB, f/5.6 70mm with the
18~70mm lens. I like the dynamic range and the accuracy of the
meter. I think this camera produces better out-of-box jpg than my
D100. I cannot comment yet on RAW files because without NC 4.1 I
cannot compare.



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How did the vertical image come up on the PC? Was it rotated during download, or does the D70 auto-rotation only work inside the camera?

Thanks for putting up with all these questions.

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After Carl asked me about the number of shots the CF card can hold, I too started wondering why I'm getting less photos for the same card compared to D100. So I started to shoot a sequence of 4 frames in RAW so that the buffer fills up and then watch the counter while the files were writing to card.

What a discovery!

After 4 shots, counter immediatley showed "99" down to "95". The green write light was still on so I watched. Counter went back up to "96" and then "97" and light went out showing the 4 files written. Shot another 4 photos. Counter goes down from "97" to "93" then slowly up to "94" and finally "95". That means you do get double the number of photos compared to D100 because the NEF files are smaller by about half but the counter is not displaying correctly!

Henry Goh
 
Photos come up rotated in PC.
PFR said:
How did the vertical image come up on the PC? Was it rotated during
download, or does the D70 auto-rotation only work inside the camera?

Thanks for putting up with all these questions.

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I don't think that's a bug.

Isn't D2H same? They are compressing the file in real time, so that actual file size isn't known until they are completed. That's why they show, 95, then 96, and 97, etc..

Check if you have the compression on.. Without it, you would see the better estimation..

By the way, where did you get the D70?

SHL
Henry Goh said:
After Carl asked me about the number of shots the CF card can hold,
I too started wondering why I'm getting less photos for the same
card compared to D100. So I started to shoot a sequence of 4
frames in RAW so that the buffer fills up and then watch the
counter while the files were writing to card.

What a discovery!

After 4 shots, counter immediatley showed "99" down to "95". The
green write light was still on so I watched. Counter went back up
to "96" and then "97" and light went out showing the 4 files
written. Shot another 4 photos. Counter goes down from "97" to
"93" then slowly up to "94" and finally "95". That means you do
get double the number of photos compared to D100 because the NEF
files are smaller by about half but the counter is not displaying
correctly!

Henry Goh
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Thants because your shooting in RAW compressed mode. I don't think the d70 can shoot just RAW!
Henry Goh said:
After Carl asked me about the number of shots the CF card can hold,
I too started wondering why I'm getting less photos for the same
card compared to D100. So I started to shoot a sequence of 4
frames in RAW so that the buffer fills up and then watch the
counter while the files were writing to card.

What a discovery!

After 4 shots, counter immediatley showed "99" down to "95". The
green write light was still on so I watched. Counter went back up
to "96" and then "97" and light went out showing the 4 files
written. Shot another 4 photos. Counter goes down from "97" to
"93" then slowly up to "94" and finally "95". That means you do
get double the number of photos compared to D100 because the NEF
files are smaller by about half but the counter is not displaying
correctly!

Henry Goh
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Yes it is compressed NEF but the counter is still wrong. If you have 99 shots available and you took 4 shots what should the counter show?

Henry
 
Henry

Thank you very much for all your time and patience. Good luck to you and your family..

Bill
North Carolina. USA
 
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