My definition of Democracy is One Man One Vote. The present
situation in Iraq is that the shiite majority wants to hold direct
elections, and the US forces are dragging their feet, cause they
know that under democratic elections a pro-iranian fundamentalist
regime would easily be elected. Instead it is trying to set up a
confusing system of council appointments so that the US can have
some more docile government to deal with. So, where's the
democracy? Does democracy work only when it suits your particular
taste? BTW, did you know that until 1990 the US was Saddam's most
ardent supporter while Saddam waged war on Iran?
1) Why would the world (let alone the US) want a pro-Iranian
fundamentalist regime? Has your liberalism so robbed you of common
sense that you would sit idly by while a country organized itself
into such a system? A system that would neatly quash any of your
grand ideas on free expression and would be simulateously the first
time and the last time that One Man One Vote ever occurred there?
Wait! What am I thinking, european countries
did sit idly by
while their neighbors assembled into fundamentalist systems (former
USSR, **** Germany,...)
2) Let me get this straight: you would rather
not have a "docile"
goverment in the mid-east?
3) Did you forget that while the US openly supported Saddam during
the Iran-Iraq war, the US had an arms deal with Iran? The US was
never really buddies with Iraq. The US was playing Saddam while
arming his enemies. Oh, yeah, and France and Britain sold arms to
Iraq during that time, too.
No, we are not upset. Europe started fighting the Talibans long
before the US,
Uh, yeah, and really effectively, too (
cough )...you guys really
had ol' bin Laden and Mullah Omar on the run there....hyeah. Saw
lots of girls going to school before the US came in, too (NOT). Of
course, we know how you europeans love soccer, too...so did the
taliban...nice shiny stadium for executions, throat slittings,
amputations....yep, don't know how we coulda done it withoutcha.
and presently Europe has more forces in Afghanistan
than the US. The US, on the other hand, provided much of the
original funding for the Taliban, when the Mujahedin were fighting
the soviet presence in the region. Most of what came to be the
Taliban got their first military training from american military
advisers in Pakistan in the late 80's early 90's. Memory is a
curious thing, isn't it? I guess you have a talent for picking up
strange bed partners that you don't like when you wake up the next
day.
Yes, you're right, the Soviet Union would have been
MUCH better
dominating the middle east. Then freedom would truly have
flourished, prosperity would have reigned much as it did throughout
the soviet empire. Oh wait, that's the soviet union in bizarro
world! In the
real world, its usually best to side with the
weaker of two evils, together finish off the bigger evil, and then
wipe out the lesser evil you had partnered with if they turn on
you. In the US, we try to live in the real world.
Did you know that women in Saudia Arabia are not allowed to have a
drivers license and drive a car?
Yes, I know. And I also know that the US is Saudi Arabia's most
traditional ally, and that the women's condition never seemed to
bother you when you buy their oil, of which you are their main
client.
It
does bother us. Would you like us to wipe out Saudi Arabia and
annex it as part of the US? We could rename it Exxon Pumping
Station 29. It's certainly well within the realm of our military's
power. (It must bother you no end that the US has this awesome
capability...good thing for you that it's ONLY the US that has this
awesome capability).
Believe me, my friend, democracy will not spread unless we remove
the dictators by force. They will not leave under any other
scenario.
Correct, Neil B., peace is never achieved at a peace conference.
Throughout history peace has only come when one country completely
and utterly defeats the other. It isn't pretty, and I wish it
weren't that way. But thems the facts, Jack.
BTW, Jose, I see you average 90 posts a week on this forum (that's
13 a day, 7 days a week)!?!?! Perhaps we need a new "Jose forum"
since the 300D forum's getting a bit choked with all of your posts.