Here's My Flag Picture - Do you have one?

I insist! You must tell me. I always keep a bottle of Stoli's in my
freezer. If there is a better Russian vodka, I must have it
imported into the US! :D

'Fess up. Give me brands names...

-Neil
Here's just a few:

Gzhelka
Smirnov (not good old American Smirnoff)
Russian Standard
Flagman

But better still, come visit us. We are not that bad as it may seem at first glance. I'll arrange some real cool tasting.
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CSB (Moscow, Russia)
 
Please don't take this as an anti-american attack, because I think the same applies to any flag of any country.

I think that the thing about showing the flag all over the place just shows some form of insecurity.

Italy is one of the countries I have seen where people are more secure of themselves, and what they have achieved throughout history. Yet, you hardly see any flags around

Personally, I don't think I am any different for holding a EU passport than I would be holding a US passport.

I find the same percentage of bright people and dumb as* s on both sides of the pond.

Historically, nationalities have been used as a form for dictatorial governmnts to rule over their people. In the age of democracy, I don't think that there is any need for this sort of tribalism residue. Eventually, democracy will advance to the point that there is a single world citizenship and national flags will become a historical curiosity.

From a pure photographic standpoint, however, I think that some of the pictures in this thread are awesome.
I was at Sears a few weeks ago and decided to take a picture of the
Flag in their parking lot, I liked the way it came out as I always
like flag pictures because they are so colorful...what do you think
of this perspective?

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there is HUGE difference in cultural relation to national flag between US and for example in scandinavia where I live. It is "illegal" to raise a flag without a good reason , mostly national holidays. It is not sanctioned in practise though. The US way of flag use would send a very dubious message.
check. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=7628941
it is a cultural differnce, nothing more I´d say

juuso

juuso
I was at Sears a few weeks ago and decided to take a picture of the
Flag in their parking lot, I liked the way it came out as I always
like flag pictures because they are so colorful...what do you think
of this perspective?

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http://www.pbase.com/juuso
 
Correct me if I am wrong but I went to San Antonio a few years ago
and one of the tour guides on a tour we went on said that Texas was
the only state in the Union that made an agreement with Washington
when they joined that they could fly the Texas flag at the same
height as the American flag next to each other.
That's correct.

Tim
 
See, that's something I don't understand about Europeans. Why do some view flag flying as a negative things. Most people fly the flag to show their respect to their country, only very few do it for overt political reasons.

Similarly, taking pictures of the flag doesn't always mean the photographer is sending a political message. Sometimes, it's just about aethetics. Whatever people may think of the US, our flag is very colorful and I think very attractively designed.
 
I stand corrected. Me and my Big Ego will be the end of me, I guess... ;-)
It's nice to know the Ol'Man agrees with me on that one ;-)
It's probably the other way around, since he was first and then you
came.
Eventually, democracy will advance to the point
that there is a single world citizenship
according to the book of Revelation of the Bible you are right;)

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http://www.pbase.com/natalia
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http://www.malaquias.net/en/joseluis/
 
Historically, nationalities have been used as a form for
dictatorial governmnts to rule over their people. In the age of
democracy, I don't think that there is any need for this sort of
tribalism residue. Eventually, democracy will advance to the point
that there is a single world citizenship and national flags will
become a historical curiosity.
Europe is up in arms over the US spreading democracy to the Middle East. Please, don't give me this 'one world' nonsense. We are in a struggle between the Free World and the world of darkness, oppression (of women, freedom of thought, etc.) and terrorism. Europe in general, is upset that we have removed evil regimes like the Taliban. People there (especially women) are free from the bondage of these evil-doers.

Did you know that women in Saudia Arabia are not allowed to have a drivers license and drive a car?

Believe me, my friend, democracy will not spread unless we remove the dictators by force. They will not leave under any other scenario.

-Neil
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http://www.pbase.com/nrbonner
 
You do have your history and world politics really screwed up.

This was not the point of my post, but since you brought it up, let me set some facts straight.
Europe is up in arms over the US spreading democracy to the Middle
East. Please, don't give me this 'one world' nonsense.
My definition of Democracy is One Man One Vote. The present situation in Iraq is that the shiite majority wants to hold direct elections, and the US forces are dragging their feet, cause they know that under democratic elections a pro-iranian fundamentalist regime would easily be elected. Instead it is trying to set up a confusing system of council appointments so that the US can have some more docile government to deal with. So, where's the democracy? Does democracy work only when it suits your particular taste? BTW, did you know that until 1990 the US was Saddam's most ardent supporter while Saddam waged war on Iran?
We are in a
struggle between the Free World and the world of darkness,
oppression (of women, freedom of thought, etc.) and terrorism.
Europe in general, is upset that we have removed evil regimes like
the Taliban.
No, we are not upset. Europe started fighting the Talibans long before the US, and presently Europe has more forces in Afghanistan than the US. The US, on the other hand, provided much of the original funding for the Taliban, when the Mujahedin were fighting the soviet presence in the region. Most of what came to be the Taliban got their first military training from american military advisers in Pakistan in the late 80's early 90's. Memory is a curious thing, isn't it? I guess you have a talent for picking up strange bed partners that you don't like when you wake up the next day.
People there (especially women) are free from the
bondage of these evil-doers.
Actually, they're not. The women's living conditions have improved next to none. It is the whole cultural framework of that country that needs to change to improve women's condition. You do that by funding education, not military intervention. But the US hasn't paid UNESCo for that in many many years. In fact, most of the aid money that really makes a difference for Afghan women comes from Europe. Did you know that Emma Bonino, the EU commisioner actually spoke in Kabul for women's rights DURING the taliban, and she was even arrested for that?
Did you know that women in Saudia Arabia are not allowed to have a
drivers license and drive a car?
Yes, I know. And I also know that the US is Saudi Arabia's most traditional ally, and that the women's condition never seemed to bother you when you buy their oil, of which you are their main client.
Believe me, my friend, democracy will not spread unless we remove
the dictators by force. They will not leave under any other
scenario.
All experiences of imposing "democracy" by force ended up in huge catastrophes. And the US alone has a very poor record in that area. Here's a short list:

-Iran's Reza Phalevi
-Indonesia's Suharto
-Chile's Pinochet.
-South Vietnam
-Mobutu's Zaire

-Angola where you tried FNLA, then UNITA, and now even the former marxist MPLA, and they all murdered and maimed their populations in corrupt governments.
-Cuba's Battista.
-Guatemala

I guess I could not go on, because there's a size limit for these posts.

By the way, I didn't get these examples from a communist manual, as you may think. I got them from Foreign Affairs, which is published by your own State Department. You should read it sometimes.

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http://www.malaquias.net/en/joseluis/
 


comment and suggestions always welcome :-D

It's a 100% crop of a much larger frame (notice slight CA)
Kit lens @ 18mm
f: 1/125
stop: 7.1
ISO: 100

after crop, USM 200%, 0.2, 0 applied
 
Did you straighten that up in post-processing, or were you able to frame it that milimetrically?

I am a disgrace doing architecture photos, and I always have to correct distortion in PS in the end.


comment and suggestions always welcome :-D

It's a 100% crop of a much larger frame (notice slight CA)
Kit lens @ 18mm
f: 1/125
stop: 7.1
ISO: 100

after crop, USM 200%, 0.2, 0 applied
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You do have your history and world politics really screwed up.
This was not the point of my post, but since you brought it up, let
me set some facts straight.
Right. It was the leftist liberal thinking in Euorpe that led to the appeasment policy of Hitler and the ****'s. My knowledge of World and European history goes a lot deeper than yours, pal. You leftists really never do learn from history do you?

You're just afraid to make the tough choices that have to be made in the 21st century. Tough choices require strong leadership, not so-called intellectual sniping from the sidelines.

-Neil
 
Right. It was the leftist liberal thinking in Euorpe that led to
the appeasment policy of Hitler and the ****'s. My knowledge of
World and European history goes a lot deeper than yours, pal.
Well, if you again look at your history, it was Europe that rose up to challenge Hitler and Japan. The US only joined later, when their backyard was attacked. So, Europe has a long way of fighting for its own freedom since the French Revolution or even before that, from the Magna Carta, and we don't need you to teach us how to live in democracy, especially when your political choices vary between right and ultra-right. We have parties that are further right than your GOP, and parties that are further left than the former USSR. Thank God neither has any political clout, but it is nice to know that you actually have a choice.
You
leftists really never do learn from history do you?
I am afraid that it is you that don't learn from history. You have mixed facts, and not just opinions, that happened even in the last decade.

Somalia was a complete disaster, from which you cowered away leaving the country in shambles. What made you think that Iraq will be any different? Democracy can't be imposed by force. It has to be imposed by massive investments in education and aid. Think Marshall plan (you see that I also admire the US for what it did well), don't think Chile.
You're just afraid to make the tough choices that have to be made
in the 21st century. Tough choices require strong leadership, not
so-called intellectual sniping from the sidelines.
I gave you a lot of historical examples of what your tough choices ended up in. You didn't give me a single example of a democracy imposed by force that has survived in the long run.

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Did you straighten that up in post-processing, or were you able to
frame it that milimetrically?
I am a disgrace doing architecture photos, and I always have to
correct distortion in PS in the end.
José, it's a straight crop from the full-size... take a closer look and your notice that there is a small perspective problem, but I guess it's my eye through the viewfinder that balanced it when framing...

years of burning pro Fuji film taught me to get good at framing -- only now do we have the joys of digital !!!! I am finally breaking my habits of being shutter-commit-shy... that used to be a $2-$3 sound to here the mirror slap up... now it's free !!!

I love it.

Thanks for the compliment -- best advice I can give in architectural framing: use triangulation with yourself as one point, two AF points and a horizontal (such as the row of dentils in this pic)... center with the center-line of AF points on a known center line of the building, align two AF points on a horizontal, carefully reframe, and snap...

do all of that while worrying about metering and stuff... hehehehe that's why it takes me over 16 seconds to frame one of these shots ;-)

Thanks again for the compliment -- I'm glad the pic is enjoyable!

JBM
 

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