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This is my first post, I have been reading the posts for months.

I have a D-100 and two Lexar 512MB WA/40x CF's. My question is: the CF/reader documentation says that in XP, I must click on the 'safely remove hardware' icon, select the device, click on stop, and close the window. Is everyone doing this? I don't want to damage the card but just waiting until the light goes and pulling the card works much quicker.
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Steve
 
"is everyone doing it" and "should i do it" are two different questions.

yes, you should do it. if the file system isn't properly closed, you can cause loss of data. its unliikelly but does happen. ...dav
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Steve919 said:
This is my first post, I have been reading the posts for months.

I have a D-100 and two Lexar 512MB WA/40x CF's. My question is: the
CF/reader documentation says that in XP, I must click on the
'safely remove hardware' icon, select the device, click on stop,
and close the window. Is everyone doing this? I don't want to
damage the card but just waiting until the light goes and pulling
the card works much quicker.
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Steve
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Steve S
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Steven S said:
Steve919 said:
This is my first post, I have been reading the posts for months.

I have a D-100 and two Lexar 512MB WA/40x CF's. My question is: the
CF/reader documentation says that in XP, I must click on the
'safely remove hardware' icon, select the device, click on stop,
and close the window. Is everyone doing this? I don't want to
damage the card but just waiting until the light goes and pulling
the card works much quicker.
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Steve
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Steve S
http://www.pbase.com/sshyone
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Steve S
http://www.pbase.com/sshyone
 
True, I should exercise three days a week too, but I don't. I am not worried about data loss. The only thing XP is doing is reading my data then deleting the files. I was more worried about physical damage to the CF.

Steve
dannv said:
"is everyone doing it" and "should i do it" are two different
questions.
yes, you should do it. if the file system isn't properly closed,
you can cause loss of data. its unliikelly but does happen. ...dav
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don't wait for technology -- it won't wait for you
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Steve
D100 and N80
 
Steven S said:
Steven S said:
Steve919 said:
This is my first post, I have been reading the posts for months.

I have a D-100 and two Lexar 512MB WA/40x CF's. My question is: the
CF/reader documentation says that in XP, I must click on the
'safely remove hardware' icon, select the device, click on stop,
and close the window. Is everyone doing this? I don't want to
damage the card but just waiting until the light goes and pulling
the card works much quicker.
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Steve
Click to expand...
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Steve S
http://www.pbase.com/sshyone
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Steve S
http://www.pbase.com/sshyone
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Steve
D100 and N80
 
that's a great analogy.

i hope your luck never runs out on either score.

but if it does, here's to hoping its the CF file system that dies first and you take the lesson to heart. ;) ...dav

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Steve919 wrote:
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Steve919 said:
CF/reader documentation says that in XP, I must click on the
'safely remove hardware' icon, select the device, click on stop,
and close the window. Is everyone doing this? I don't want to
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You won't damage your hardware. And if the data transfer is complete, you won't risk data.

What you may do is confuse Windows, and increase the odds of one of its instabilities waking up. At a minimum, you'll get a pop-up warning you that you've done something Windows disapproves of. Slippery slope - next thing you know you'll be tearing the tag off your mattress.

Ken Plotkin
 
more often than anyone here;-). Whether you lose data or not is really dependent on your reader/writer device. For example, if you read the cards thru a PDA slot, you will never need to click the eject icon. If you read/write thru a reader device, then good luck. The less severe problem is to loss data. The worse case is total damage of the card. I had one card that was damaged and was sent back to the manufacturer for replacement.

Be careful.
dannv said:
"is everyone doing it" and "should i do it" are two different
questions.
yes, you should do it. if the file system isn't properly closed,
you can cause loss of data. its unliikelly but does happen. ...dav
--
don't wait for technology -- it won't wait for you
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yea, many people assume "loss of data" only works one direction in time -- i.e. "if i don't eject my card properly the only data i'll lose is what's on the card. i just deleted it all anyway so, who cares?".

the problem is it works forward in time also. the errors linger and can cause one to lose data that hasn't yet been written. YMMV...dav

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i don't know where this attitude that "Bill just wrote this into Windows to annoy me" comes from. (i understand you're not the only one who seems to have it.) the warning is there due to a real possibility of data loss -- and as i noted in my previous post, its not only the data you just transferred.

with all respect Ken, this blanket statement is simply wrong.

just in case people are beginning to think i'm a "proper ejection evangelist", let me restate what i said earlier: it is unlikely. one may go for years without a problem. i'm just trying to correct the mistaken impression that there isn't a real risk -- understand it and then make your own decisions...dav
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don't wait for technology -- it won't wait for you
 
dannv wrote:
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dannv said:
just in case people are beginning to think i'm a "proper ejection
evangelist", let me restate what i said earlier: it is unlikely.
one may go for years without a problem. i'm just trying to correct
the mistaken impression that there isn't a real risk -- understand
it and then make your own decisions...dav
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You're correct. I probably should have left off the quip about the mattress tag.

I always click the ejection icon, and sometimes annoy people around me when I interrupt them if it looks like they're going to just yank something out. As long as data is not still transferring, I do not believe you'd lose data right then. But the risk of confusing Windows is real. You might get a GPF later on. It may decide to not shut down properly. IE might crash, sending an error report to Microsoft. These are all things that Windows does, and sometimes there's no telling why.

No point provoking it. And no point in giving it an excuse to display one of its scold pop-ups.

Ken Plotkin
 
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