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Alternative for TC-E3 or TC-E2?
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Don Schultz14603
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Hi Bill:
I've tried a tiffen 2X and a wide angle and sent the wide angle back for a Nikon E-24 and bought a Nikon 2x because I couldn't send the Tiffen 2X back.You won't be happy with a cheaper lens! Nikon lenses are not expensive ther'e good and good costs more usually.
Don.
I've tried a tiffen 2X and a wide angle and sent the wide angle back for a Nikon E-24 and bought a Nikon 2x because I couldn't send the Tiffen 2X back.You won't be happy with a cheaper lens! Nikon lenses are not expensive ther'e good and good costs more usually.
Don.
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Peter iNova
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There are plenty of "alternative" lenses made by various manufacturers for digital cameras. Not one single one, of all the versions sold, can hold a candle to the Nikon wide and tele converters.
Sorry, truth is truth and your money spent on some other optic will deliver soft-edged images to your camera.
Save your pennies an extra month and get the ones that actually do the job you wanted them to do.
Of course, I realize that this sounds like an ad for the Nikon Converters but if you decide I simply don't know what I'm talking about or am pressing some hidden agenda, you will find out for yourself over time.
Just to lock in the value of what I'm claiming and to potentially head off a costly mistake on your part, here is an image taken through the TC-E2 Nikon Converter with the zoom lens pullled all the way back to full wide. This isn't how you would normally use the tele converter, but it shows an interesting feature you will NOT find with any of the non-Nikon tele-optics: Sharpness right out to the edge, limited only by the vignette.
Be aware.
-iNova
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Bill
I have 2 Nikon lens converters. They take wonderful pictures. In my opinion they are worth the money.
I have 2 Nikon lens converters. They take wonderful pictures. In my opinion they are worth the money.
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gene
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Peter is right. You know the adage, "You get what you pay for" holds true in this case. You can always get a step up ring to 37MM and try a wide variety of lenses. But I don't think you wil be as happy with the results...
There are plenty of "alternative" lenses made by various
manufacturers for digital cameras. Not one single one, of all the
versions sold, can hold a candle to the Nikon wide and tele
converters.
Sorry, truth is truth and your money spent on some other optic will
deliver soft-edged images to your camera.
Save your pennies an extra month and get the ones that actually do
the job you wanted them to do.
Of course, I realize that this sounds like an ad for the Nikon
Converters but if you decide I simply don't know what I'm talking
about or am pressing some hidden agenda, you will find out for
yourself over time.
Just to lock in the value of what I'm claiming and to potentially
head off a costly mistake on your part, here is an image taken
through the TC-E2 Nikon Converter with the zoom lens pullled all
the way back to full wide. This isn't how you would normally use
the tele converter, but it shows an interesting feature you will
NOT find with any of the non-Nikon tele-optics: Sharpness right out
to the edge, limited only by the vignette.
Be aware.
-iNova
YES. Tiffen is releasing a brand new 2x teleconverter called "Megaplus." It cost me $69 at dcprodirect.com. I had the old Tiffen 2x, and it was terrible. I was very pleasantly surprised by this new version. I have compared it to the Nikon 2x and it performs JUST AS WELL IF NOT BETTER. You do have to buy Tiffen's mounting ring, but you still are saving a lot of money versus the Nikon converter.
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Don Krauss
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If you want both 2X and 3X in your bag, the TCON-14B is a 1.45 teleconverter that simply screws onto the TC-E2. Its made by Olympus for their E10. Its a huge piece of glass (86mm) but is a no compromise combo, the pictures still stay sharp to the edge. The combo gives you a shade less than 3x, but the zoom range is better than the TC-E3. Set the CP990 to tele X2 and it zooms per the TC-E2 specification. Both lens should be purchased for around $300, which is a bargain to me. I am totally impressed with the pictures taken through the TCON.
Don K
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Any idea where I can buy the TCON 14B for a good price? I already have the TC-E2 & it's excellent.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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Don Krauss
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I got mine from http://www.bhphotovideo.com but it may not have been the lowest price available. Sometimes getting it overnight is more important than waiting for days to save a few bucks. Photography is not exactly a cheap hobby, "ask my wife", so I am kind of conditioned to spending whatever it takes.
Don K
Don K
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mike
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Also consider the Olympus B-300 1.7x telconverter to combine with the TC-E2. I have only used this combo for a few days but so far it is great. Very sharp and I am satisfied with the magnification for my uses (3.4x combined).
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Peter iNova
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Can anybody in this thread post an image zoomed back so we can all appreciate the edge sharpness of the combinations mentioned? See the image below for the TC-E2 zoom back shot to which we can all compare. If, as you guys say, the combo gives great results and permits the TC-E2's greater zoom range, I know a bunch of people who would benefit from this...
-iNova
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mike
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It's a gray day here and pouring rain. I'd rather get an example of the lens in full daylight. Let me dig around and see if I have something.
Can anybody in this thread post an image zoomed back so we can all
appreciate the edge sharpness of the combinations mentioned? See
the image below for the TC-E2 zoom back shot to which we can all
compare. If, as you guys say, the combo gives great results and
permits the TC-E2's greater zoom range, I know a bunch of people
who would benefit from this...
-iNova
I appreciate all the comments from everyone this really helps. I have a few more questions
1. The pic below has a circular portion blanked out by the adapter ring, I guess. I take it that part of the inner works of the teleconverter come into view at the wide angle end of the zoom. Does this limit a lot of the zoom range? I really dont want a round mask on my shots.
2. Is there an adapter ring that would let me mount the camera to lenses for my old (20 old but still great) "fully manual" Nikormat?
1. The pic below has a circular portion blanked out by the adapter ring, I guess. I take it that part of the inner works of the teleconverter come into view at the wide angle end of the zoom. Does this limit a lot of the zoom range? I really dont want a round mask on my shots.
2. Is there an adapter ring that would let me mount the camera to lenses for my old (20 old but still great) "fully manual" Nikormat?
There are plenty of "alternative" lenses made by various
manufacturers for digital cameras. Not one single one, of all the
versions sold, can hold a candle to the Nikon wide and tele
converters.
Sorry, truth is truth and your money spent on some other optic will
deliver soft-edged images to your camera.
Save your pennies an extra month and get the ones that actually do
the job you wanted them to do.
Of course, I realize that this sounds like an ad for the Nikon
Converters but if you decide I simply don't know what I'm talking
about or am pressing some hidden agenda, you will find out for
yourself over time.
Just to lock in the value of what I'm claiming and to potentially
head off a costly mistake on your part, here is an image taken
through the TC-E2 Nikon Converter with the zoom lens pullled all
the way back to full wide. This isn't how you would normally use
the tele converter, but it shows an interesting feature you will
NOT find with any of the non-Nikon tele-optics: Sharpness right out
to the edge, limited only by the vignette.
Be aware.
-iNova
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Bryan Biggers
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As Peter said, you would not normally use the lens that way, he just wants to show you that the edges are sharp.
For the TC-E2, the vignetting starts zoomed out to about 1/2 way. That corresponds to about 100mm focal length, so that gives you a continuous range with the TC-E2, 35 to 110 without the lens, about 100-220 with the lens. If you are worried that you will accidently zoom out too far, you can set the "2X" lens setting for the camera, which will not let you. In practice it is not a problem, because you can't use the optical viewfinder anway, and you have to use the LCD. If you zoom out too far you will see it on the LCD. Bryan
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Lin Evans
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This is the TC-E2 with the Olympus B-300 pulled back all the way. It's slightly fuzzier in the extremes than the TC-E2 alone, but not much, and equal, I believe, to the TC-E3. Sorry I don't have the TC-E3 with me to compare today. This combination gives slightly longer reach than the TC-E3 alone and provides good versatility at a significant savings if you already own the TC-E2.
Lin
Can anybody in this thread post an image zoomed back so we can all
appreciate the edge sharpness of the combinations mentioned? See
the image below for the TC-E2 zoom back shot to which we can all
compare. If, as you guys say, the combo gives great results and
permits the TC-E2's greater zoom range, I know a bunch of people
who would benefit from this...
-iNova
This is the TC-E2 with the Olympus B-300 pulled back all the way. It's slightly fuzzier in the extremes than the TC-E2 alone, but not much, and equal, I believe, to the TC-E3. Sorry I don't have the TC-E3 with me to compare today. This combination gives slightly longer reach than the TC-E3 alone and provides good versatility at a significant savings if you already own the TC-E2.
Lin
Bill, That circular portion comes from NOT set the camera to tele lens mode. When you choose tele lense in the camera menu this vignetting will not occur with the Nikon teleconverters.
A reason why you would not want to use the tele setting in the camera is when you want to use the flash. The flash is disabled if you choose an accessory lens. The vignetting disappear when you're half zoomed.
This is an example of the TC-E2 I just took.
Petra
A reason why you would not want to use the tele setting in the camera is when you want to use the flash. The flash is disabled if you choose an accessory lens. The vignetting disappear when you're half zoomed.
This is an example of the TC-E2 I just took.
Petra
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mike
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http://members.home.net/michaelfamiglietti/DSCN0089.bmp
Can anybody in this thread post an image zoomed back so we can all
appreciate the edge sharpness of the combinations mentioned? See
the image below for the TC-E2 zoom back shot to which we can all
compare. If, as you guys say, the combo gives great results and
permits the TC-E2's greater zoom range, I know a bunch of people
who would benefit from this...
-iNova
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mike
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Here's a good example. It is a photo that I took the first day that I got the new lens.
Can anybody in this thread post an image zoomed back so we can all
appreciate the edge sharpness of the combinations mentioned? See
the image below for the TC-E2 zoom back shot to which we can all
compare. If, as you guys say, the combo gives great results and
permits the TC-E2's greater zoom range, I know a bunch of people
who would benefit from this...
-iNova
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Don Krauss
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It is a pretty day, 80F, partly cloudy, so I went over by a Hotel "MarkV" which is just down the road. These are all XGA - NORMAL to keep file sizes reasonable. I show the CP990 using the TC-E2 then with the TCON-14B tele on the TC-E2
Here's the CP990 at X1 showing the actual hotel.
Heres the TC-E2 wide with its vignetting
Here's the TCON-14B mounted on the TC-E2 full wide
Here I moved the TCON-14B Vignetting larger for a better comparison with the TC-E2
Now here are examples of the full magnification
First CP990 internal 3X
Second, the TC-E2 ... 6X
Third and last, the TCON-14B plus the TC-E2, about 8.7X
Excuse my horizontal angles, these were all handheld shots.
With the CP990 set to TELE X2 as for the TC-E2, the TCON-14B shows not vignetting at full wide.
Don K
Here's the CP990 at X1 showing the actual hotel.
Heres the TC-E2 wide with its vignetting
Here's the TCON-14B mounted on the TC-E2 full wide
Here I moved the TCON-14B Vignetting larger for a better comparison with the TC-E2
Now here are examples of the full magnification
First CP990 internal 3X
Second, the TC-E2 ... 6X
Third and last, the TCON-14B plus the TC-E2, about 8.7X
Excuse my horizontal angles, these were all handheld shots.
With the CP990 set to TELE X2 as for the TC-E2, the TCON-14B shows not vignetting at full wide.
Don K
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Peter iNova
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It's not the adapter ring. There is none. It's just the design of the converter. The 950's "tele" and 990's "2x" settings accomodate this and won't let you zoom outside the vignette by accident. In practice, I simply shoot without using the converter settings and that allows you to get these "porthole" shots. But you can use the converter setting and never see the mask. With the 2X you still get a 2:1 zoom at the tele end of things.
Sorry, those won't work at all. These lenses aren't prime lenses like your older Nikkors. These are converters that work with the prime lens in your camera. They're like huge aperture monoculars of relatively small magnification. You can't hold your Nikkors up to your eye and see a picture, but with these, you can use them as low power telescopes for your eye.
-iNova
There are plenty of "alternative" lenses made by various
manufacturers for digital cameras. Not one single one, of all the
versions sold, can hold a candle to the Nikon wide and tele
converters.
Sorry, truth is truth and your money spent on some other optic will
deliver soft-edged images to your camera.
Save your pennies an extra month and get the ones that actually do
the job you wanted them to do.
Of course, I realize that this sounds like an ad for the Nikon
Converters but if you decide I simply don't know what I'm talking
about or am pressing some hidden agenda, you will find out for
yourself over time.
Just to lock in the value of what I'm claiming and to potentially
head off a costly mistake on your part, here is an image taken
through the TC-E2 Nikon Converter with the zoom lens pullled all
the way back to full wide. This isn't how you would normally use
the tele converter, but it shows an interesting feature you will
NOT find with any of the non-Nikon tele-optics: Sharpness right out
to the edge, limited only by the vignette.
Be aware.
-iNova
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