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Here I disagree you. I belive have to look at lenses as long term
investments, the body as a short term one. In another four years
full frame sensors will be in the prosumer market and the 1.6 crop
will be a joke, so why buy glass that won't take the leap with you?
I thiink the kit lense is an amazing value, but if Canon makes good
on the notion of a line of lenses tailored for the 300d, I for one
will give them a pass in favor of full frame glass
It's important to remember, that the FF sensors are not subject to the same decline in price as most other mass manufacturered electronics. The price on them is kept high not by the technology itself being expensive, but by the low yield of usable chips. FF sensors will become cheaper not then CMOS technology gets cheaper, but when the manufacturing of them makes a significant advancement that has far defective chips. Thus, I think even in 4 years we will not be seeing FF cameras for under $2,000.

Even if they are available in that amount of time, I'm not so sure I find it reasonable to foresake wide angle photography for the next four years just because Canon does not wish to make one or two UWA lenses to fill in the gap. I agree with you that glass is more of a long term investment, but keep in mind if I decided to buy Nikon now and sell my lenses in your predicted 4-years later, I probably wouldn't lose much money on the deal.

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I see your schwartz is as big as mine.
 
Do I understand this to mean what you see in the viewfinder is not what camera shoots? I'm confused... (don't own one yet).
thanks

Hej wrote:
Also, I was pretty irritated to find
that the viewfinder is aligned with the bottom of the frame, rather
than being vertically centered (horizontally it's not 100% even
either). Neither of these things are apparently defects, as they
seem to be the case with all of the Digirebels.
 
This should explain it:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=7307803

Cassandra
Hej wrote:
Also, I was pretty irritated to find
that the viewfinder is aligned with the bottom of the frame, rather
than being vertically centered (horizontally it's not 100% even
either). Neither of these things are apparently defects, as they
seem to be the case with all of the Digirebels.
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http://www.pbase.com/cassandra
 
, there hasn't been very much at
all to accomodate the 1.6x sensor (in terms of focal length),
particularly if I want something equivalent to a 15-20mm UWA,
fisheyes, or a nice bright 50mm "normal" lens.
35mm f2 or 28mm f2.8 are pretty close.

And although the
Rebel was DSLR I can afford, every zoom that is brighter than a
not-so-fast f/3.5 is relegated to the not so affordable L lens club.
There are third party zooms, like the Tamron 28-75 and Sigma 28-70 at 2.8
All in all, although I've found it fun and novel to play with an
SLR that has an optical TTL viewfinder, I haven't really found the
Digital Rebel enabling me to do much that I can't do with my S45.
Although I honestly feel Canon makes a better camera body,
especially in terms of digital, I'm starting to think that
something like Nikon will be more appropriate for the lenses I'd
like to get.
You mentioned the not very affordable L lenses - the prices of Nikon's DX offerings for 1.5 crop cameras are close - $1000 for 12-24, $500 for 17-70 (if sold separately), $650 for the fisheye lens. Hardly an easy solution.
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Misha
 
With "10" being the most satisfied, how would you rate
I would rank it at 10 if they provide FEC and metering flaxibility.

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Bakul Vyas
 
Coming from a poor mans camera -- Sony 717 owner-- to Rebel

Pros:
Color
Speed
RAW
Higher ISO's

Like sports mode ( don't like the limit of 400 iso but I don't shoot much sports) and the ability to shoot the burst at 2.5 frames per

The mode to check for in focus on large groups also may come in handy. layout of controls and feel is very nice --- heavier the what I'm used too but lighter then 10D

Con's
More$$$$$$$$$$ (even had to upgrade my tripod)
Miss low light lens --More $$ needed for 1.8 or 1.4 50

Still find I miss lcd very nice when shooting kids vs viewfinder--but in all fairness it isn't getting too hard to get use to the Rebel but in some cases the lcd is nice in getting what you want in composing a shot.

Also don't like the focus points either--again-- Sorry-- miss the Sony focus system.

Overall -- REALLY like RAW and the better -- I feel real life colors. It also hasn't been as big of learning curve as I thought in the upgrade.
I miss being able to choose type of focus--partial spot etc...

But able to do work arounds fairly easy and fixed the ettl issue by getting sunpak 5000 flash. Have and like 28-135 so far
Cant wait to get 1.8 50 for portraits and have 80-200 4.5 on order.

Overall an 8 -- which is all I would give any camera until they can make one for me called cameras for dumb.

For the money--(if you have it)-- and entry level DSLR so far its the best.

Wont upgrade for a while and will go to 10d replacement in a couple years or so for the missing features unless they upgrade the Rebel instead.

Yippee ya hay! (sorry I'm from IOWA)

Ken
 
Ken thanks for the info. And no need to apologize -- I'm from Cowtown (KC). :)

Cassandra
Coming from a poor mans camera -- Sony 717 owner-- to Rebel

Pros:
Color
Speed
RAW
Higher ISO's
Like sports mode ( don't like the limit of 400 iso but I don't
shoot much sports) and the ability to shoot the burst at 2.5 frames
per
The mode to check for in focus on large groups also may come in
handy. layout of controls and feel is very nice --- heavier the
what I'm used too but lighter then 10D

Con's
More$$$$$$$$$$ (even had to upgrade my tripod)
Miss low light lens --More $$ needed for 1.8 or 1.4 50
Still find I miss lcd very nice when shooting kids vs
viewfinder--but in all fairness it isn't getting too hard to get
use to the Rebel but in some cases the lcd is nice in getting what
you want in composing a shot.
Also don't like the focus points either--again-- Sorry-- miss the
Sony focus system.

Overall -- REALLY like RAW and the better -- I feel real life
colors. It also hasn't been as big of learning curve as I thought
in the upgrade.
I miss being able to choose type of focus--partial spot etc...
But able to do work arounds fairly easy and fixed the ettl issue by
getting sunpak 5000 flash. Have and like 28-135 so far
Cant wait to get 1.8 50 for portraits and have 80-200 4.5 on order.

Overall an 8 -- which is all I would give any camera until they can
make one for me called cameras for dumb.

For the money--(if you have it)-- and entry level DSLR so far its
the best.

Wont upgrade for a while and will go to 10d replacement in a couple
years or so for the missing features unless they upgrade the Rebel
instead.

Yippee ya hay! (sorry I'm from IOWA)

Ken
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http://www.pbase.com/cassandra
 

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