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Wonder of wonders ! It actually wasn't raining today , so a quick dash out to grab a few shots to add to my present paltry collection. Parked on a farm-yard used by a nearby Inn and was right in front of a glassless window opening looking into a store-shed..confronted by this ... No explanation..it just took my eye ..and yet another punishing test I thought ???!!

1/125th , f5, ISO 400 - just cropped and downsized for a finish ...this camera just never yet ceases to amaze me !! Believe it or not , it looked just like this ..



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EJN
 
Very stunning exposure!
Wonder of wonders ! It actually wasn't raining today , so a quick
dash out to grab a few shots to add to my present paltry
collection. Parked on a farm-yard used by a nearby Inn and was
right in front of a glassless window opening looking into a
store-shed..confronted by this ... No explanation..it just took my
eye ..and yet another punishing test I thought ???!!
1/125th , f5, ISO 400 - just cropped and downsized for a finish
...this camera just never yet ceases to amaze me !! Believe it or
not , it looked just like this ..



--
EJN
 
EJN, I for one truly appreciate the fact that you post your pictures on this forum, plus the fact that they're mostly good pictures. I would just appreciate if you could either resize them or "save for web" so that the whole 2MB or so of the photo didn't have to load everytime I opened one of your posts. This will make the picture-viewing a more pleasant experience for me and all others with a slow connection via modem.

Thanks, and nice pic!
Wonder of wonders ! It actually wasn't raining today , so a quick
dash out to grab a few shots to add to my present paltry
collection. Parked on a farm-yard used by a nearby Inn and was
right in front of a glassless window opening looking into a
store-shed..confronted by this ... No explanation..it just took my
eye ..and yet another punishing test I thought ???!!
1/125th , f5, ISO 400 - just cropped and downsized for a finish
...this camera just never yet ceases to amaze me !! Believe it or
not , it looked just like this ..
--
Listen
Tin soldiers
Playing our tune

http://www.pbase.com/parham
 
EJN, I for one truly appreciate the fact that you post your
pictures on this forum, plus the fact that they're mostly good
pictures. I would just appreciate if you could either resize them
or "save for web" so that the whole 2MB or so of the photo didn't
have to load everytime I opened one of your posts. This will make
the picture-viewing a more pleasant experience for me and all
others with a slow connection via modem.

Thanks, and nice pic!
P. -

Well, you well know that I've said it before...there's just too much talk and too few pics on here. SO much about the *ist and even I would love to see others efforts ..if only to see some comparison and if I'm getting anywhere. I should add that I sympathise with you ..believe it or not but I have a modem dial-up too !! .. so I know what you mean , but I have a "thing" about this. Whilst appreciating the big pic problem I feel really seriously that a small pic does NOTHING to show any sort of reflection of the result of that one. Personally I run a mile from a lot of these photo sites that put up TINY pics (as I see them) Crikey , if you start with the size of a dSLR pic, it's not much use to look at it as a 6x4. I DON'T believe in keeping HUGE pics - my 'Edits' folder is based generally on around 1000 pix biggest dimension, added to occasionally (on one I like) by the size of a Cherry frame or similar...I wouldn't put THOSE on here..any I do I usually downsize a bit more , but a small one I still baulk at. To be honest, maybe right now I'm so pleased with this thing that I just want to see a good size !!! but I do appreciate your comments ... and YES...I wish more folk would post here. There surelyare enough now with the *ist ...so where are the pics ???

Eric
 
I'm not talking about posting "tiny" pictures, just pics with less volume, but of the same size in terms of dimension. I'm not sure what software you are using, but if you are using PS Elements or just any PS, there should be a "save for web" option which reduces the volume of your pictures without reducing the dimensions. Rest assured, I don't like small-size pictures either.

On the other hand, I'm surprised that you are reducing to around 1000 pixels, because when I open your posts the time your pictures take to download make them seem like they're close to full-size (full-volume if you prefer).

As for putting my money where my mouth is as far as posting pictures (see, I caught your drift!), here's the latest one I posted on my PBase galleries. Not much of a pic, but my style. It's one I took a few days ago of some of the people I work with.

Cheers.


EJN, I for one truly appreciate the fact that you post your
pictures on this forum, plus the fact that they're mostly good
pictures. I would just appreciate if you could either resize them
or "save for web" so that the whole 2MB or so of the photo didn't
have to load everytime I opened one of your posts. This will make
the picture-viewing a more pleasant experience for me and all
others with a slow connection via modem.

Thanks, and nice pic!
P. -
Well, you well know that I've said it before...there's just too
much talk and too few pics on here. SO much about the *ist and even
I would love to see others efforts ..if only to see some comparison
and if I'm getting anywhere. I should add that I sympathise with
you ..believe it or not but I have a modem dial-up too !! .. so
I know what you mean , but I have a "thing" about this. Whilst
appreciating the big pic problem I feel really seriously that a
small pic does NOTHING to show any sort of reflection of the result
of that one. Personally I run a mile from a lot of these photo
sites that put up TINY pics (as I see them) Crikey , if you start
with the size of a dSLR pic, it's not much use to look at it as a
6x4. I DON'T believe in keeping HUGE pics - my 'Edits' folder is
based generally on around 1000 pix biggest dimension, added to
occasionally (on one I like) by the size of a Cherry frame or
similar...I wouldn't put THOSE on here..any I do I usually downsize
a bit more , but a small one I still baulk at. To be honest, maybe
right now I'm so pleased with this thing that I just want to see a
good size !!! but I do appreciate your comments ... and YES...I
wish more folk would post here. There surelyare enough now with the
*ist ...so where are the pics ???

Eric
--
Listen
Tin soldiers
Playing our tune

http://www.pbase.com/parham
 
I'm not talking about posting "tiny" pictures, just pics with less
volume, but of the same size in terms of dimension. I'm not sure
what software you are using, but if you are using PS Elements or
just any PS, there should be a "save for web" option which reduces
the volume of your pictures without reducing the dimensions. Rest
assured, I don't like small-size pictures either.

On the other hand, I'm surprised that you are reducing to around
1000 pixels, because when I open your posts the time your pictures
take to download make them seem like they're close to full-size
(full-volume if you prefer).

As for putting my money where my mouth is as far as posting
pictures (see, I caught your drift!), here's the latest one I
posted on my PBase galleries. Not much of a pic, but my style. It's
one I took a few days ago of some of the people I work with.

Cheers.

Yes, know what you mean ...maybe ought to look into that. I use PS nearly all the time. Got several progs on but this always seems to do all I want so why bother with more. Never thought much of the sizing as I do it in PS and it just comes out that way..OK for general use as naturally I keep the originals, but virtually ALL my downsizes are "give-or-take" ...500K and a bit on average, which is maybe why I don't think them 'big' !!

So you're a B&W are you ... tell you what though...these dSLRs really are different in DOF aren't they. Look at that of yours..the 'right' eyes surely seem to be the focus point yet only a modest amount 'behind' (the other person) is 'out' . Still trying to get used to this ...very useful much of the time but after about 5 or 6 years with prosumers it IS different. Keep 'em coming...somebody's got to get the ball rolling.

E
 
I'm not talking about posting "tiny" pictures, just pics with less
volume, but of the same size in terms of dimension. I'm not sure
what software you are using, but if you are using PS Elements or
just any PS, there should be a "save for web" option which reduces
the volume of your pictures without reducing the dimensions. Rest
assured, I don't like small-size pictures either.

On the other hand, I'm surprised that you are reducing to around
1000 pixels, because when I open your posts the time your pictures
take to download make them seem like they're close to full-size
(full-volume if you prefer).

As for putting my money where my mouth is as far as posting
pictures (see, I caught your drift!), here's the latest one I
posted on my PBase galleries. Not much of a pic, but my style. It's
one I took a few days ago of some of the people I work with.

Cheers.

Yes, know what you mean ...maybe ought to look into that. I use PS
nearly all the time. Got several progs on but this always seems to
do all I want so why bother with more. Never thought much of the
sizing as I do it in PS and it just comes out that way..OK for
general use as naturally I keep the originals, but virtually ALL my
downsizes are "give-or-take" ...500K and a bit on average, which is
maybe why I don't think them 'big' !!
So you're a B&W are you ... tell you what though...these dSLRs
really are different in DOF aren't they. Look at that of yours..the
'right' eyes surely seem to be the focus point yet only a modest
amount 'behind' (the other person) is 'out' . Still trying to get
used to this ...very useful much of the time but after about 5 or 6
years with prosumers it IS different. Keep 'em
coming...somebody's got to get the ball rolling.
He's "out" for a reason though, and it's exactly that you mentioned: To give a feeling of DOF. While he actually still is in, he is less so than the others.

Regards.
--
Listen
Tin soldiers
Playing our tune

http://www.pbase.com/parham
 
OK, while we're on the subject of down sizing photos to post I have a burning question. What program does the best job at dowsizing? For the sake of those without the budget, let's exclude the high-dollar Photoshops.

I have used the free IRFANVIEW and Qimage. I also have PaintShop Pro, PS Elements, and others that I can't remember right now.

What would be the preferable size, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x758 all at 100%?

--Steve
EJN, I for one truly appreciate the fact that you post your
pictures on this forum, plus the fact that they're mostly good
pictures. I would just appreciate if you could either resize them
or "save for web" so that the whole 2MB or so of the photo didn't
have to load everytime I opened one of your posts. This will make
the picture-viewing a more pleasant experience for me and all
others with a slow connection via modem.

Thanks, and nice pic!
P. -
Well, you well know that I've said it before...there's just too
much talk and too few pics on here. SO much about the *ist and even
I would love to see others efforts ..if only to see some comparison
and if I'm getting anywhere. I should add that I sympathise with
you ..believe it or not but I have a modem dial-up too !! .. so
I know what you mean , but I have a "thing" about this. Whilst
appreciating the big pic problem I feel really seriously that a
small pic does NOTHING to show any sort of reflection of the result
of that one. Personally I run a mile from a lot of these photo
sites that put up TINY pics (as I see them) Crikey , if you start
with the size of a dSLR pic, it's not much use to look at it as a
6x4. I DON'T believe in keeping HUGE pics - my 'Edits' folder is
based generally on around 1000 pix biggest dimension, added to
occasionally (on one I like) by the size of a Cherry frame or
similar...I wouldn't put THOSE on here..any I do I usually downsize
a bit more , but a small one I still baulk at. To be honest, maybe
right now I'm so pleased with this thing that I just want to see a
good size !!! but I do appreciate your comments ... and YES...I
wish more folk would post here. There surelyare enough now with the
*ist ...so where are the pics ???

Eric
 
...this camera just never yet ceases to amaze me !! Believe it or
not , it looked just like this ..
With the strange Halo and that soft? Other Cameras got heavy bashing for this kind of halo around blowouts...

--
Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
 
There surelyare enough now with the
*ist ...so where are the pics ???

Eric
Right, where are the fullsize pics that show the inherent softness?
--
Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
 
Volume??
On the other hand, I'm surprised that you are reducing to around
1000 pixels, because when I open your posts the time your pictures
take to download make them seem like they're close to full-size
(full-volume if you prefer).

As for putting my money where my mouth is as far as posting
pictures (see, I caught your drift!), here's the latest one I
posted on my PBase galleries. Not much of a pic, but my style. It's
one I took a few days ago of some of the people I work with.

Cheers.


EJN, I for one truly appreciate the fact that you post your
pictures on this forum, plus the fact that they're mostly good
pictures. I would just appreciate if you could either resize them
or "save for web" so that the whole 2MB or so of the photo didn't
have to load everytime I opened one of your posts. This will make
the picture-viewing a more pleasant experience for me and all
others with a slow connection via modem.

Thanks, and nice pic!
P. -
Well, you well know that I've said it before...there's just too
much talk and too few pics on here. SO much about the *ist and even
I would love to see others efforts ..if only to see some comparison
and if I'm getting anywhere. I should add that I sympathise with
you ..believe it or not but I have a modem dial-up too !! .. so
I know what you mean , but I have a "thing" about this. Whilst
appreciating the big pic problem I feel really seriously that a
small pic does NOTHING to show any sort of reflection of the result
of that one. Personally I run a mile from a lot of these photo
sites that put up TINY pics (as I see them) Crikey , if you start
with the size of a dSLR pic, it's not much use to look at it as a
6x4. I DON'T believe in keeping HUGE pics - my 'Edits' folder is
based generally on around 1000 pix biggest dimension, added to
occasionally (on one I like) by the size of a Cherry frame or
similar...I wouldn't put THOSE on here..any I do I usually downsize
a bit more , but a small one I still baulk at. To be honest, maybe
right now I'm so pleased with this thing that I just want to see a
good size !!! but I do appreciate your comments ... and YES...I
wish more folk would post here. There surelyare enough now with the
*ist ...so where are the pics ???

Eric
--
Listen
Tin soldiers
Playing our tune

http://www.pbase.com/parham
--
Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
 
Yah volume.
On the other hand, I'm surprised that you are reducing to around
1000 pixels, because when I open your posts the time your pictures
take to download make them seem like they're close to full-size
(full-volume if you prefer).

As for putting my money where my mouth is as far as posting
pictures (see, I caught your drift!), here's the latest one I
posted on my PBase galleries. Not much of a pic, but my style. It's
one I took a few days ago of some of the people I work with.

Cheers.


EJN, I for one truly appreciate the fact that you post your
pictures on this forum, plus the fact that they're mostly good
pictures. I would just appreciate if you could either resize them
or "save for web" so that the whole 2MB or so of the photo didn't
have to load everytime I opened one of your posts. This will make
the picture-viewing a more pleasant experience for me and all
others with a slow connection via modem.

Thanks, and nice pic!
P. -
Well, you well know that I've said it before...there's just too
much talk and too few pics on here. SO much about the *ist and even
I would love to see others efforts ..if only to see some comparison
and if I'm getting anywhere. I should add that I sympathise with
you ..believe it or not but I have a modem dial-up too !! .. so
I know what you mean , but I have a "thing" about this. Whilst
appreciating the big pic problem I feel really seriously that a
small pic does NOTHING to show any sort of reflection of the result
of that one. Personally I run a mile from a lot of these photo
sites that put up TINY pics (as I see them) Crikey , if you start
with the size of a dSLR pic, it's not much use to look at it as a
6x4. I DON'T believe in keeping HUGE pics - my 'Edits' folder is
based generally on around 1000 pix biggest dimension, added to
occasionally (on one I like) by the size of a Cherry frame or
similar...I wouldn't put THOSE on here..any I do I usually downsize
a bit more , but a small one I still baulk at. To be honest, maybe
right now I'm so pleased with this thing that I just want to see a
good size !!! but I do appreciate your comments ... and YES...I
wish more folk would post here. There surelyare enough now with the
*ist ...so where are the pics ???

Eric
--
Listen
Tin soldiers
Playing our tune

http://www.pbase.com/parham
--
Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
--
Listen
Tin soldiers
Playing our tune

http://www.pbase.com/parham
 
OK, while we're on the subject of down sizing photos to post I have
a burning question. What program does the best job at dowsizing?
For the sake of those without the budget, let's exclude the
high-dollar Photoshops.

I have used the free IRFANVIEW and Qimage. I also have PaintShop
Pro, PS Elements, and others that I can't remember right now.

What would be the preferable size, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x758 all
at 100%?

--Steve
Steve -

Well - you put the question up ....so here we go . I've got as many (and lots more) progs as you seem to have, although I rarely use much other than PS (it's actually ver6 on this 'worker' I use most although I've got PS7 and CS on other laptops .. but I think I'm a bit blase on this for maybe a couple of reasons. First, as I've already said, I do NOT like downsizing , especially to show a pic, as it's obvious that it can be no 'show' as such if it's little more than a holiday postcard. Also, I've got very disgruntled that many sites (dpreview do seem a good exception to this I think) make a right hash very often in reproducing a pic , so I'm sure many are nothing like as good as they really start. The result is that I use very few to show a pic. But since you ask...if you do want to show a SMALLER pic yet one that still retains a great deal of the original quality , I've just this minute done a 'test' on this and would you believe (you ought to!) Genuine Fractals makes a super job of producing an 800x533 pic from one of my this W/E originals ...in fact the smaller one I've just done this way, really does look BETTER on screen than the ORIGINAL as the latter shows with the usual natural reduction via PS ! (as a % of the original when it opens) Never done this before and was quite honestly a bit taken aback but at the risk of taking up bandwidth again I feel I MUST show you - see what you think. Of course you'll have to use a bit of judgment but this is totally untouched, just the original saved in GF as an .stn file then re-opened and in the process reduced to 800x533 and then re-saved as a jpg...at 511K size !!!



Otherwise, odd as it may seem, 'Easy Thumbnails' is a favourite program as it IS intended to make 'thumbnails' (which of course can be any size ..more of a downsizer in fact) AND auto retains EXIF AND you can if you wish make minor 'edits' ...a +1 Sharpen can sometimes give an excellent downsizer .. try it ..it's free

EJN
 
...this camera just never yet ceases to amaze me !! Believe it or
not , it looked just like this ..
With the strange Halo and that soft? Other Cameras got heavy
bashing for this kind of halo around blowouts...
I'm no scientist but if you pointed any glass lens directly at a lit bulb in an otherwise totally near black environmrent I'd think you are bound to get a halo - aren't you ?? Do you know any secret way otherwise ?? .. to get at least a sniff of detail to show the 'location' at least a little bit. If by chance you have a 3,000 £/$ Nikon ..would you care to show us what that does ??
 
OK, while we're on the subject of down sizing photos to post I have
a burning question. What program does the best job at dowsizing?
For the sake of those without the budget, let's exclude the
high-dollar Photoshops.

I have used the free IRFANVIEW and Qimage. I also have PaintShop
Pro, PS Elements, and others that I can't remember right now.

What would be the preferable size, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x758 all
at 100%?

--Steve
Steve -
Well - you put the question up ....so here we go . I've got as
many (and lots more) progs as you seem to have, although I rarely
use much other than PS (it's actually ver6 on this 'worker' I use
most although I've got PS7 and CS on other laptops .. but I think
I'm a bit blase on this for maybe a couple of reasons. First, as
I've already said, I do NOT like downsizing , especially to show a
pic, as it's obvious that it can be no 'show' as such if it's
little more than a holiday postcard. Also, I've got very
disgruntled that many sites (dpreview do seem a good exception to
this I think) make a right hash very often in reproducing a pic ,
so I'm sure many are nothing like as good as they really start. The
result is that I use very few to show a pic. But since you ask...if
you do want to show a SMALLER pic yet one that still retains a
great deal of the original quality , I've just this minute done a
'test' on this and would you believe (you ought to!) Genuine
Fractals makes a super job of producing an 800x533 pic from one of
my this W/E originals ...in fact the smaller one I've just done
this way, really does look BETTER on screen than the ORIGINAL as
the latter shows with the usual natural reduction via PS ! (as a %
of the original when it opens) Never done this before and was
quite honestly a bit taken aback but at the risk of taking up
bandwidth again I feel I MUST show you - see what you think. Of
course you'll have to use a bit of judgment but this is totally
untouched, just the original saved in GF as an .stn file then
re-opened and in the process reduced to 800x533 and then re-saved
as a jpg...at 511K size !!!



Otherwise, odd as it may seem, 'Easy Thumbnails' is a favourite
program as it IS intended to make 'thumbnails' (which of course can
be any size ..more of a downsizer in fact) AND auto retains EXIF
AND you can if you wish make minor 'edits' ...a +1 Sharpen can
sometimes give an excellent downsizer .. try it ..it's free

EJN
I feel your pain...

The picture sure looks good. GF is one program I don't have. Do you have Qimage? I'm curious as to how those two would compare. I know Qimage sure makes a good print and the two or three photos I resized with it sure looked good. I really haven't played with that much as I'm not much of a picture-poster. But, maybe now with the *ist D and this great forum that might change. I've just got to get out and take more pictures - Darned RAIN!

--Steve
 
...this camera just never yet ceases to amaze me !! Believe it or
not , it looked just like this ..
With the strange Halo and that soft? Other Cameras got heavy
bashing for this kind of halo around blowouts...
I'm no scientist but if you pointed any glass lens directly at a
lit bulb in an otherwise totally near black environmrent I'd think
you are bound to get a halo - aren't you ??
Sorry for the confusion, I am not talking about the halo around it that gives it the shiny look but the
black border on the inside border of the bulb that looks like a sharpening halo.

--
Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
 
OK, while we're on the subject of down sizing photos to post I have
a burning question. What program does the best job at dowsizing?
For the sake of those without the budget, let's exclude the
high-dollar Photoshops.

I have used the free IRFANVIEW and Qimage. I also have PaintShop
Pro, PS Elements, and others that I can't remember right now.

What would be the preferable size, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x758 all
at 100%?

--Steve
Steve -
Well - you put the question up ....so here we go . I've got as
many (and lots more) progs as you seem to have, although I rarely
use much other than PS (it's actually ver6 on this 'worker' I use
most although I've got PS7 and CS on other laptops .. but I think
I'm a bit blase on this for maybe a couple of reasons. First, as
I've already said, I do NOT like downsizing , especially to show a
pic, as it's obvious that it can be no 'show' as such if it's
little more than a holiday postcard. Also, I've got very
disgruntled that many sites (dpreview do seem a good exception to
this I think) make a right hash very often in reproducing a pic ,
so I'm sure many are nothing like as good as they really start. The
result is that I use very few to show a pic. But since you ask...if
you do want to show a SMALLER pic yet one that still retains a
great deal of the original quality , I've just this minute done a
'test' on this and would you believe (you ought to!) Genuine
Fractals makes a super job of producing an 800x533 pic from one of
my this W/E originals ...in fact the smaller one I've just done
this way, really does look BETTER on screen than the ORIGINAL as
the latter shows with the usual natural reduction via PS ! (as a %
of the original when it opens) Never done this before and was
quite honestly a bit taken aback but at the risk of taking up
bandwidth again I feel I MUST show you - see what you think. Of
course you'll have to use a bit of judgment but this is totally
untouched, just the original saved in GF as an .stn file then
re-opened and in the process reduced to 800x533 and then re-saved
as a jpg...at 511K size !!!



Otherwise, odd as it may seem, 'Easy Thumbnails' is a favourite
program as it IS intended to make 'thumbnails' (which of course can
be any size ..more of a downsizer in fact) AND auto retains EXIF
AND you can if you wish make minor 'edits' ...a +1 Sharpen can
sometimes give an excellent downsizer .. try it ..it's free

EJN
Thanks for the tip on Easy Thumbnails. I tried it and it works great.
--Steve
 
...this camera just never yet ceases to amaze me !! Believe it or
not , it looked just like this ..
With the strange Halo and that soft? Other Cameras got heavy
bashing for this kind of halo around blowouts...
I'm no scientist but if you pointed any glass lens directly at a
lit bulb in an otherwise totally near black environmrent I'd think
you are bound to get a halo - aren't you ??
Sorry for the confusion, I am not talking about the halo around it
that gives it the shiny look but the
black border on the inside border of the bulb that looks like a
sharpening halo.

--
Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
Apologies for that .. "guilty as charged ! " . In view of the odd nature and the fairly big downsize/crop , I did in fact give it a VERY VERY light sharpen , via Ultra Sharp Lite6 if you've used that ... VERY light (nothing like what USM does) but it does help a little...it just I guess shows it up here. I did spot it myself but as it was the METERING that I wanted to 'highlight' I passed it over

--
EJN
 

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