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USB 1.1, SD Card - Pointless on a 1D Mark II ?

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Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to you.

Apart from that it's got what I want.. (not need....)

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Stephen Westwood pointed out that the USB is for direct printing from camera. Not for downloding images per se. He indicated that there are times when clients want soft proofs on the spot. The Sd I have no Idea would like to have seen two cf slots but they must have a reason.
Scott Fleming said:
anymore? I wouldn't care if it had no USB. SD? What's secure
digital. Maybe it will be important in the future. Everything
else I like however. Thinking I want FF but ......

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and then have a usefull interface as well.......

firewire is still not all that available.......

both would've been great......
Mark D said:
Scott Fleming said:
anymore? I wouldn't care if it had no USB. SD? What's secure
digital. Maybe it will be important in the future. Everything
else I like however. Thinking I want FF but ......

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Scott Fleming said:
anymore? I wouldn't care if it had no USB. SD? What's secure
digital.
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Secure Digital is used a lot in potrable organisers and mp3 players. SD cards contain the security system necessary to stop you from copying music from your CDs more than the music industry allows you to.

I do not know if using them in the 1D2 is something to do with this:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04012903canondvke2.asp

"The SM cards used with the kit are the same size as an SD card."

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yeah but from what I understand the usb input on the printers for cameras are usb. More or less it is just there in case. I don't know what the logistics are in putting in usb 2 maybe more than what canon wanted invest. Kinda like t*ts on a bull useless but there none the less. Always kills me when people use USB 1.1 to rate a camera I don't know a single photographer that uses it, but if you must maybe a nice piont and shoot style camera is for you.
Lecter said:
firewire is still not all that available.......

both would've been great......
Mark D said:
Scott Fleming said:
anymore? I wouldn't care if it had no USB. SD? What's secure
digital. Maybe it will be important in the future. Everything
else I like however. Thinking I want FF but ......

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should read usb1.1
Mark D said:
Lecter said:
firewire is still not all that available.......

both would've been great......
Mark D said:
Scott Fleming said:
anymore? I wouldn't care if it had no USB. SD? What's secure
digital. Maybe it will be important in the future. Everything
else I like however. Thinking I want FF but ......

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http://www.pbase.com/sfleming

Too many cameras ... not nearly enough photography.
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Lecter said:
Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to
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One advantage they have in common is to maximize your ability to work with what's available. For example, if you're out somewhere and the only computer around doesn't have firewire or a card reader. With the SD slot you could borrow someone's SD card, shoot some pictures for them, and hand the card back to them.

The SD slot also gives you the increased capacity to shoot uninterrupted, the ability to mirror files to both cards, the ability to swap cards with less interruption, the ability to categorize your pictures by flipping back and forth between the cards (e.g. pictures for the client on the CF card and personal shots on the SD card).

Two CF slots would be better but I'm sure there's no room for that.

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if ya gonna stick it in, stick in the latest...

USB1.1 is the equivilent technology of, say, a horse and cart vs a truck

Cannot for the life of me understand why 1.1 and not 2.0

it'd be more usefull

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Have you thought about the number of Macintosh computers with USB 2.0 implemented? Since the ratio of professional photographers using MAC is much higher than for more consumer focussed products, some say 45% mac, 55% windows, the interface of highest speed and most compatibility for PC and MAC is firewire. USB 1.1 is there for direct print, though it may work as a "get you out of trouble port" in case the firewire is not usable for you.

Others have already commented that SD cards fit PDA's and such, and with the applications like Pocket Phojo, this makes using the PDA with SD cards simpler. Maybe it's part of a longer strategy in the industry to switch to SD cards??

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kanefsky said:
Lecter said:
Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to
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One advantage they have in common is to maximize your ability to
work with what's available. For example, if you're out somewhere
and the only computer around doesn't have firewire or a card
reader. With the SD slot you could borrow someone's SD card, shoot
some pictures for them, and hand the card back to them.

The SD slot also gives you the increased capacity to shoot
uninterrupted, the ability to mirror files to both cards, the
ability to swap cards with less interruption, the ability to
categorize your pictures by flipping back and forth between the
cards (e.g. pictures for the client on the CF card and personal
shots on the SD card).

Two CF slots would be better but I'm sure there's no room for that.

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it is connected to the Data Verification Kit that uses a SD size card.

Jim
kanefsky said:
Lecter said:
Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to
Click to expand...
One advantage they have in common is to maximize your ability to
work with what's available. For example, if you're out somewhere
and the only computer around doesn't have firewire or a card
reader. With the SD slot you could borrow someone's SD card, shoot
some pictures for them, and hand the card back to them.

The SD slot also gives you the increased capacity to shoot
uninterrupted, the ability to mirror files to both cards, the
ability to swap cards with less interruption, the ability to
categorize your pictures by flipping back and forth between the
cards (e.g. pictures for the client on the CF card and personal
shots on the SD card).

Two CF slots would be better but I'm sure there's no room for that.

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Lecter said:
Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to
you.

Apart from that it's got what I want.. (not need....)

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I dealt with these issues in another thread a couple of days ago.
Paul
 
Lecter said:
firewire is still not all that available.......

both would've been great......
Mark D said:
Scott Fleming said:
anymore? I wouldn't care if it had no USB. SD? What's secure
digital. Maybe it will be important in the future. Everything
else I like however. Thinking I want FF but ......

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http://www.pbase.com/sfleming

Too many cameras ... not nearly enough photography.
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I agree that USB 1.1 is pointless. But, I kind of like the idea of having an SD card. You can make mirrored copies of your photos on two different media. I'm sure that this will provide some relief to professionals who can not afford to lose a shot.

Joo
Lecter said:
Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to
you.

Apart from that it's got what I want.. (not need....)

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I feel the exact opposite. Firewire is great for data transfer but I think USB1.1 still has a place as a "shoot by wire" approach, and for use in the field where firewire isn't available. And if I had a camera with two slots, I'd make them BOTH CFtII slots, and none of this SD junk. SD is slow and SD is far behind CF on the storage capacity front. Why would I want two kinds of media in my bag?
Joo said:
I agree that USB 1.1 is pointless. But, I kind of like the idea of
having an SD card. You can make mirrored copies of your photos on
two different media. I'm sure that this will provide some relief to
professionals who can not afford to lose a shot.
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Think out of the box. SD format allows for many possibilities besides memory/stroage. Several companies already make SD WiFi cards for instance. So it looks like you are wrong again.
Lecter said:
Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to
you.

Apart from that it's got what I want.. (not need....)

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Also - maybe an SD GPS card?
Lecter said:
Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to
you.

Apart from that it's got what I want.. (not need....)

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Get a life!
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Have that once in a life time event. Auto mirror. Also SD is rather fast.

Steven
Lecter said:
Thoughts?

To me they're worthless additions.....

I could be wrong, I was once...... when I remember I'll get back to
you.

Apart from that it's got what I want.. (not need....)

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Lecter said:
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More than likely, the USB 1.1 core is what Canon have available to integrate into their DIGIC II ASIC. Buying in a USB 2.0 core would cost money, and if the USB 1.1 core had already been integrated into the design, upgrading it would be an unnecessary cost and resource drain. I very much doubt there's room inside the camera for it to be a separate chip that could have been easliy swapped for a USB 2.0 device instead. FWIW I'd have preferred it to be USB 2.0 too, but Firewire cards are just so cheap these days (I paid about £15 for mine including a cable), it's not worth worrying about.

As to the SD card slot, people seem to have missed the fact that Canon's lower end cameras are starting to drop CF and use SD cards instead. If you already had an IXUS II and a nice big SD card, you'd be cursing having to buy a big CF card as well when you upgrade your camera. It's just there for backward (and maybe forward) compatibility with other cameras.
 
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