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If you want to try a larger paper in your 1270, Photoalley.com has
Konica QP Photo Glossy Heavyweight 11x17 in stock for $12.95 for 10
sheets. Do not know if this is a good deal or not.
Tony S.
The revolting thing in my subject line is after printing, I checked
email and costco canceled my order for Konica QP 13x19. I ordered
on Jan. 3, and they had sent me two confirming emails, but now they
say it is no longer available and cancelled the order.
Office depot only had 8.5x11 and I think my local CompUSA only had
Epson, maybe Kodak or HP. What large format paper should I buy to
try out my new 1270?
By the way Paul, when you posted that you had been setting the cyan
and magenta to -5 with the Konica QP, were you setting the papaer
type to premium glossy, glossy, or glossy film as the instructions
in the office depot paper said might be necessary with Epson
printers?
Your input is much appreciated.
Jim
Danny
No Orange Shift in my preliminary tests. Epson PG faded noticablyHas anyone who had orange shift problems with the original Epson
glossy seen an improvement with the Konica paper???
in the same test....Paul Pavlik
Danny
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
Referring to the Office Depot "Premium High Gloss Photo Paper" that
is on sale until 1/13...
For those of you using this paper on the Epson 1270, what paper
selection do you use? I tried the premium glossy and regular photo
paper settings and got horrible blotching and running of the ink.
The best setting I could find was to use the "Photo Quality Inkjet
Paper" setting which looked pretty good but unfortunately had
visible dots... possibly due to putting down less ink.
After trying this paper, I put in an old sheet of the Epson Premium
Glossy paper and the difference was quite noticable. IMO, the
Epson paper does a much better job if you set aside the orange
shift issue which has never been a problem for me for some reason.
Would some paper or other settings that I haven't tried give better
results? Is there something I'm missing in the equation? If not,
I'm not very impressed with this paper.
I even profiled the paper using both WiziWYG and Monaco EZ Color
under several different paper type settings with all color
corrections off and although overall color and contrast was pretty
good, the dynamic range of the image appeared less with the Office
Depot paper (compared to Epson paper). Of course, I could be
overcomplicating things by profiling the paper myself; maybe the
paper doesn't respond well to the Epson "No color adjustments"
setting and is therefore not well suited for profiling.
If that's the case, maybe someone could recommend both: (1) driver
settings including what paper type to use and (2) which ICC profile
to use. I don't print without an ICC profile so I need a
combination that works for this paper.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike: On my 870 I use the Epson factory profile and the Premium Glossy Paper setting. I use Custom, Advanced, Color Controls, Automatic, Gamma (1.5), 720 or 1440 dpi, High Speed OFF, Magenta (-5), Cyan (-5), High Quality Halftoning. In Photoshop 5.5, I use RGB Print space, PCM CHECKED. These are the same settings that I use for Epson Premium Glossy, except for the Magenta (-5) and Cyan (-5). The resulting prints are essentially identical to the ones I get on Epson Premium Glossy. I have not observed anything like the ink running that you discribe. I have, however, noticed that the QP paper does show some mottling and cracking in the high density areas if you use High Speed.......Paul Pavlik
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
Well, after 3 trips to my 3 closest Office Depot locations, andDave: I just bought another 4 25 sheet packs for $24. They also
have the 100 sheet packs (not on sale) for $40. I live in
Milwaukee, WI. I asked the salesman why the paper is not listed on
the websight and he said that it is brand new. Presumably it will
appear on the officedepot.com websight, but probably not at the
sale price. If so, the Konica QP at costco.com will be cheaper,
aside from their absurd shipping charges.....Paul Pavlik
Dave: What can I say. The last semi truck just dropped another 50000 packs at my doorstep. Actually, you should be able to get them to honor the sale price on a 100 pack, as others have done. Good luck.....PaulWell, after 3 trips to my 3 closest Office Depot locations, andDave: I just bought another 4 25 sheet packs for $24. They also
have the 100 sheet packs (not on sale) for $40. I live in
Milwaukee, WI. I asked the salesman why the paper is not listed on
the websight and he said that it is brand new. Presumably it will
appear on the officedepot.com websight, but probably not at the
sale price. If so, the Konica QP at costco.com will be cheaper,
aside from their absurd shipping charges.....Paul Pavlik
after Biff's tip about the cardboard display, I managed to find
space where the 25-sheet packs had been (before they were
all sold out). There were plenty of 100-sheet packs for $39.95
at each store.
As I was leaving the 3rd store in disappointment, I think I heard
the clerk mumble something about having to ship all the $6.00
packs up to Milwaukee where some guy was buying up all he could
get his hands on.
:-(
Dave
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
My printer is the older PhotoSmart by HP, 6 colors dumping a pool
of ink that takes a couple of minutes to dry. I originally used HP
paper, then switched to Kodak Paper and have been printing for
about three years very realistic and stable photos. I pretty well
only print 8x10's on kodak paper, recent pictures are from a
CoolPix990.
Printing pictures identically on Office Depot versus Kodak paper
show differences that are alarming. The Office Depot paper has a
slight washout in contrast and the fleshtones are yellowish, it
looks like some RED sensitivity problem.The Office Depot paper is
also very brilliant white, probably accounting for the difficulty
with contrast. My test pictures used are rich in earthtones, and
tanned flesh. They are taken from 35mm slides, so I have the
original images to compare. The slides, computer monitor and Kodak
prints are identical, colors and tones are excellent reproductions.
It's the new paper that is different. Trying to compensate the
colors is not worth the effort, I rather have my pictures printed
exactly on target colorwise.
Please beware, I would suggest doing test printouts before stocking
up on this paper, another printer may not be as sensitive as mine,
but the Photosmart does what I need and I am not ready to plunk
down more $$$ for a good printer. It is sad that my paper cost
will remain higher but who said photography was cheap.
Don K
Don: I'm begining to wonder if all of the Office Depot paper (#652-021) is comming from the same supplier. The paper that I bought accepts ink very well with nothing that approaches "pooling". I feel confident that the paper that I bought is the same as Konica QP since the appearance (under a magnifying glass) is identical to QP. Also, the prints are exactly identical to the QP prints. It would be a shame if the suppliers varied and the characteristcs were changable.....Paul Pavlik
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
My printer is the older PhotoSmart by HP, 6 colors dumping a pool
of ink that takes a couple of minutes to dry. I originally used HP
paper, then switched to Kodak Paper and have been printing for
about three years very realistic and stable photos. I pretty well
only print 8x10's on kodak paper, recent pictures are from a
CoolPix990.
Printing pictures identically on Office Depot versus Kodak paper
show differences that are alarming. The Office Depot paper has a
slight washout in contrast and the fleshtones are yellowish, it
looks like some RED sensitivity problem.The Office Depot paper is
also very brilliant white, probably accounting for the difficulty
with contrast. My test pictures used are rich in earthtones, and
tanned flesh. They are taken from 35mm slides, so I have the
original images to compare. The slides, computer monitor and Kodak
prints are identical, colors and tones are excellent reproductions.
It's the new paper that is different. Trying to compensate the
colors is not worth the effort, I rather have my pictures printed
exactly on target colorwise.
Please beware, I would suggest doing test printouts before stocking
up on this paper, another printer may not be as sensitive as mine,
but the Photosmart does what I need and I am not ready to plunk
down more $$$ for a good printer. It is sad that my paper cost
will remain higher but who said photography was cheap.
Don K
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
My printer is the older PhotoSmart by HP, 6 colors dumping a pool
of ink that takes a couple of minutes to dry. I originally used HP
paper, then switched to Kodak Paper and have been printing for
about three years very realistic and stable photos. I pretty well
only print 8x10's on kodak paper, recent pictures are from a
CoolPix990.
Printing pictures identically on Office Depot versus Kodak paper
show differences that are alarming. The Office Depot paper has a
slight washout in contrast and the fleshtones are yellowish, it
looks like some RED sensitivity problem.The Office Depot paper is
also very brilliant white, probably accounting for the difficulty
with contrast. My test pictures used are rich in earthtones, and
tanned flesh. They are taken from 35mm slides, so I have the
original images to compare. The slides, computer monitor and Kodak
prints are identical, colors and tones are excellent reproductions.
It's the new paper that is different. Trying to compensate the
colors is not worth the effort, I rather have my pictures printed
exactly on target colorwise.
Please beware, I would suggest doing test printouts before stocking
up on this paper, another printer may not be as sensitive as mine,
but the Photosmart does what I need and I am not ready to plunk
down more $$$ for a good printer. It is sad that my paper cost
will remain higher but who said photography was cheap.
Don K
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
I wouldn't be surprised if the paper is supplied by multiple vendors,Paul Pavlik wrote:
Don: I'm begining to wonder if all of the Office Depot paper (#652-021)
is comming from the same supplier. The paper that I bought accepts ink
very well with nothing that approaches "pooling". I feel confident that
the paper that I bought is the same as Konica QP since the appearance
(under a magnifying glass) is identical to QP. Also, the prints are exactly
identical to the QP prints. It would be a shame if the suppliers varied and > the characteristcs were changable.....Paul Pavlik
Sorry, I should have verified the other posts, I was carried away
by the thought of cheaper paper. I suppose that is another reason
to start saving up for a new printer. Older technologies reach
their point of supportability.
Thanks for the wakeup...
Don K
Don & JimmeD: Thanks for the posts. In addition to my Epson 870, I have tried the Office Depot paper on a friend's HP970cse with excellent results. I guess this is newer HP technology.....Paul Pavlik
My printer is the older PhotoSmart by HP, 6 colors dumping a pool
of ink that takes a couple of minutes to dry. I originally used HP
paper, then switched to Kodak Paper and have been printing for
about three years very realistic and stable photos. I pretty well
only print 8x10's on kodak paper, recent pictures are from a
CoolPix990.
Printing pictures identically on Office Depot versus Kodak paper
show differences that are alarming. The Office Depot paper has a
slight washout in contrast and the fleshtones are yellowish, it
looks like some RED sensitivity problem.The Office Depot paper is
also very brilliant white, probably accounting for the difficulty
with contrast. My test pictures used are rich in earthtones, and
tanned flesh. They are taken from 35mm slides, so I have the
original images to compare. The slides, computer monitor and Kodak
prints are identical, colors and tones are excellent reproductions.
It's the new paper that is different. Trying to compensate the
colors is not worth the effort, I rather have my pictures printed
exactly on target colorwise.
Please beware, I would suggest doing test printouts before stocking
up on this paper, another printer may not be as sensitive as mine,
but the Photosmart does what I need and I am not ready to plunk
down more $$$ for a good printer. It is sad that my paper cost
will remain higher but who said photography was cheap.
Don K
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
I wouldn't be surprised if the paper is supplied by multiple vendors,Paul Pavlik wrote:
Don: I'm begining to wonder if all of the Office Depot paper (#652-021)
is comming from the same supplier. The paper that I bought accepts ink
very well with nothing that approaches "pooling". I feel confident that
the paper that I bought is the same as Konica QP since the appearance
(under a magnifying glass) is identical to QP. Also, the prints are exactly
identical to the QP prints. It would be a shame if the suppliers varied and > the characteristcs were changable.....Paul Pavlik
especially over the long term. I can say for sure that the Office
Depot
brand copier paper and pin-feed printer paper that I use in bulk at
my office have changed characteristics many times over the years,
indicating that they were supplied by different vendors at various
times.
Dave
Maybe it's those Scratch & Sniff pictures you've been printing?My wife noticed that the Office Depot paper has strong smell, like
ammonia even hours after the printing. I checked the Kodak paper,
it simply smells like paper, so it can't be the ink unless there is
some reaction going on. As long as it smells, there must be
chemical process continuing, so I will monitor them for a few days
to see what happens.
Has anyone else noticed a odor on this paper? Makes me feel like
the old days of real darkrooms with jugs of processing chemicals.
Don K
Don K
My printer is the older PhotoSmart by HP, 6 colors dumping a pool
of ink that takes a couple of minutes to dry. I originally used HP
paper, then switched to Kodak Paper and have been printing for
about three years very realistic and stable photos. I pretty well
only print 8x10's on kodak paper, recent pictures are from a
CoolPix990.
Printing pictures identically on Office Depot versus Kodak paper
show differences that are alarming. The Office Depot paper has a
slight washout in contrast and the fleshtones are yellowish, it
looks like some RED sensitivity problem.The Office Depot paper is
also very brilliant white, probably accounting for the difficulty
with contrast. My test pictures used are rich in earthtones, and
tanned flesh. They are taken from 35mm slides, so I have the
original images to compare. The slides, computer monitor and Kodak
prints are identical, colors and tones are excellent reproductions.
It's the new paper that is different. Trying to compensate the
colors is not worth the effort, I rather have my pictures printed
exactly on target colorwise.
Please beware, I would suggest doing test printouts before stocking
up on this paper, another printer may not be as sensitive as mine,
but the Photosmart does what I need and I am not ready to plunk
down more $$$ for a good printer. It is sad that my paper cost
will remain higher but who said photography was cheap.
Don K
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
http://www.bardpaper.com/qstore
I bought the Kodak/Photosmart paper from this guy in bulk and got
it for about 25 cents a sheet. That was over a year ago, but you
might find a good deal there. It's a good idea to actually call
the guy up and talk to him about what you want. I got a better
price that way, plus he sent me some samples to try out.
Have fun,
JimmieD
Don K
My printer is the older PhotoSmart by HP, 6 colors dumping a pool
of ink that takes a couple of minutes to dry. I originally used HP
paper, then switched to Kodak Paper and have been printing for
about three years very realistic and stable photos. I pretty well
only print 8x10's on kodak paper, recent pictures are from a
CoolPix990.
Printing pictures identically on Office Depot versus Kodak paper
show differences that are alarming. The Office Depot paper has a
slight washout in contrast and the fleshtones are yellowish, it
looks like some RED sensitivity problem.The Office Depot paper is
also very brilliant white, probably accounting for the difficulty
with contrast. My test pictures used are rich in earthtones, and
tanned flesh. They are taken from 35mm slides, so I have the
original images to compare. The slides, computer monitor and Kodak
prints are identical, colors and tones are excellent reproductions.
It's the new paper that is different. Trying to compensate the
colors is not worth the effort, I rather have my pictures printed
exactly on target colorwise.
Please beware, I would suggest doing test printouts before stocking
up on this paper, another printer may not be as sensitive as mine,
but the Photosmart does what I need and I am not ready to plunk
down more $$$ for a good printer. It is sad that my paper cost
will remain higher but who said photography was cheap.
Don K
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
DonK
http://www.bardpaper.com/qstore
I bought the Kodak/Photosmart paper from this guy in bulk and got
it for about 25 cents a sheet. That was over a year ago, but you
might find a good deal there. It's a good idea to actually call
the guy up and talk to him about what you want. I got a better
price that way, plus he sent me some samples to try out.
Have fun,
JimmieD
Don K
My printer is the older PhotoSmart by HP, 6 colors dumping a pool
of ink that takes a couple of minutes to dry. I originally used HP
paper, then switched to Kodak Paper and have been printing for
about three years very realistic and stable photos. I pretty well
only print 8x10's on kodak paper, recent pictures are from a
CoolPix990.
Printing pictures identically on Office Depot versus Kodak paper
show differences that are alarming. The Office Depot paper has a
slight washout in contrast and the fleshtones are yellowish, it
looks like some RED sensitivity problem.The Office Depot paper is
also very brilliant white, probably accounting for the difficulty
with contrast. My test pictures used are rich in earthtones, and
tanned flesh. They are taken from 35mm slides, so I have the
original images to compare. The slides, computer monitor and Kodak
prints are identical, colors and tones are excellent reproductions.
It's the new paper that is different. Trying to compensate the
colors is not worth the effort, I rather have my pictures printed
exactly on target colorwise.
Please beware, I would suggest doing test printouts before stocking
up on this paper, another printer may not be as sensitive as mine,
but the Photosmart does what I need and I am not ready to plunk
down more $$$ for a good printer. It is sad that my paper cost
will remain higher but who said photography was cheap.
Don K
I just picked up 4 25 sheet packs of Office Depot branded Premium
High Gloss Photo Paper. The sale price is $12 for 2 packs (25
sheets per pack). The normal price is listed at $10.99 per pack. It
appears to be identical to Konica QP Glossy and produces the same
quality prints. The Office Depot item# is 652-021. The sale price
is good thru 1/13/01. The package also lists a 100 sheet pack
652-001 as being available. I can't find the paper listed on the
officedepot.com website, however. This sale pricing matches
costco's Konica QP pricing, but costco's shipping charges are
insane and seem to change daily......Paul Pavlik
Well, I bought some of this Office Depot today. Since PaulMy wife noticed that the Office Depot paper has strong smell, like
ammonia even hours after the printing. I checked the Kodak paper,
it simply smells like paper, so it can't be the ink unless there is
some reaction going on. As long as it smells, there must be
chemical process continuing, so I will monitor them for a few days
to see what happens.
Has anyone else noticed a odor on this paper? Makes me feel like
the old days of real darkrooms with jugs of processing chemicals.
Don K
Well, I bought some of this Office Depot today. Since PaulMy wife noticed that the Office Depot paper has strong smell, like
ammonia even hours after the printing. I checked the Kodak paper,
it simply smells like paper, so it can't be the ink unless there is
some reaction going on. As long as it smells, there must be
chemical process continuing, so I will monitor them for a few days
to see what happens.
Has anyone else noticed a odor on this paper? Makes me feel like
the old days of real darkrooms with jugs of processing chemicals.
Don K
had already bought all the 25-sheet packs in my area (LOL),
I broke down and bought the 100-sheet pack ($39.95) to
give it a try. My observations (P1000 printer) are as follows:
1) It does have a peculiar odor, the odor was noticeable as
soon as I opened the box. It doesn't appear to me to get
any worse (or better) after printing on it. Does anyone know
if Konica QP smells the same?
2) It provides a very shiny, very sharp print that dries very
quickly (instantly).
3) The finished glossy prints seem to be much more
water resistant than those I have tested that were printed
on HP Premium Plus Glossy. I don't normally hose down my
prints, but I've seen indications from others touting this as
a concern.
4) The downside. I had never before had firsthand
experience with pizza marks on any paper other I had tried.
Now I know that my P1000 is not defective after all.
It will in fact produce pizza marks on at least one type
of paper.
5) I've only tried one sheet so far, so I may have more
comments later. (Maybe the top sheet in the box had
the pizza marks on it before I printed on it!!!)
Dave
The odor was there BEFORE printing on the paper.I have not experienced any odor from the Konica QP paper. I'll
have to put my nose closer to the printout and give another sniff.
Wonder if its a reation with certain type of ink.
I've printed a full 8x10 picture with the epson 880 and have not
noticed any odor afterwards.
Jim
Dave: No noticable odor in my (50000) packs...PaulThe odor was there BEFORE printing on the paper.I have not experienced any odor from the Konica QP paper. I'll
have to put my nose closer to the printout and give another sniff.
Wonder if its a reation with certain type of ink.
I've printed a full 8x10 picture with the epson 880 and have not
noticed any odor afterwards.
Jim
(Like as soon as I opened the box.)
I must admit, I had already seen the older message
about the odor, so I was paying close attention
when I opened the package.
To me, it smells like maybe some small furry creatures
had used this stuff for nesting material, and it was
susequently recycled into Photo paper.
Makes great prints though.
Dave
