I have the Rebel and an epson printer and photoshop CS

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fredyr I asked this on the other forums but didn't get an answer.As I have the Rebel I thought I would try here. I have PSCS and an Epson 1290/1280 with the proper colour files for each Epson paper. I have something incorrectly set up as when I print the photos are darker than my monitor. Would someone have the time to just write down the Photoshop Colour Settings before I go crazy. I followed computer darkroom instructions and got even darker. Followed Luminous Landscape and got even darker. PLEASE. Thanks in advance.

Look for settings like this in the print manager. This is for my HP printer but I would expect your Epson has something similar.

Fredy Ross said:

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fredyr I asked this on the other forums but didn't get an answer.As
I have the Rebel I thought I would try here. I have PSCS and an
Epson 1290/1280 with the proper colour files for each Epson paper.
I have something incorrectly set up as when I print the photos are
darker than my monitor. Would someone have the time to just write
down the Photoshop Colour Settings before I go crazy. I followed
computer darkroom instructions and got even darker. Followed
Luminous Landscape and got even darker. PLEASE. Thanks in advance.

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Daniel
http://www.pbase.com/dvogel11

DannyV said:

Fredy Ross said:

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fredyr I asked this on the other forums but didn't get an answer.As
I have the Rebel I thought I would try here. I have PSCS and an
Epson 1290/1280 with the proper colour files for each Epson paper.
I have something incorrectly set up as when I print the photos are
darker than my monitor. Would someone have the time to just write
down the Photoshop Colour Settings before I go crazy. I followed
computer darkroom instructions and got even darker. Followed
Luminous Landscape and got even darker. PLEASE. Thanks in advance.

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Daniel
http://www.pbase.com/dvogel11

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fredyr I wish it were but epson is totally different. Have you photoshop CS? That would be the same except I can't work out how I had it set before to set it back as that may be the problem. I have the printer set to same as source.

I have the Epsom 1270 and have the same problem. my monitor came with a utility that allows me to adjust gamma and color. I just use this utility to adjust the monitor so that it matches the print.

Jim

Fredy Ross said:

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fredyr I asked this on the other forums but didn't get an answer.As
I have the Rebel I thought I would try here. I have PSCS and an
Epson 1290/1280 with the proper colour files for each Epson paper.
I have something incorrectly set up as when I print the photos are
darker than my monitor. Would someone have the time to just write
down the Photoshop Colour Settings before I go crazy. I followed
computer darkroom instructions and got even darker. Followed
Luminous Landscape and got even darker. PLEASE. Thanks in advance.

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Fredy,

This four-step tutorial by Russell Brown did it for me.
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/pdf/epsonprinting.pdf

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Roger

Roger Circle said:

Fredy,

This four-step tutorial by Russell Brown did it for me.
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/pdf/epsonprinting.pdf

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Roger

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fredyr Thanks that is closer to what I am looking for. However when he writes RB's settings. What do I put? I have callibrated my monitor with Adobe Gamma and the colours are right when I print only darker. I am using no colour adjustment in my printer settings. I guess I am asking where he has his settings to put it in the colour settings in PS colour settings.

I have a new Dell digital monitor so perhaps that is where my problem arises. I have a NVidia card but disabled it as suggested by the adobe forum as apparently Adobe Gamma cannot work if that is enabled.
I am going nuts over this.

Fredy Ross said:

Roger Circle said:

Fredy,

This four-step tutorial by Russell Brown did it for me.
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/pdf/epsonprinting.pdf

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Roger

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fredyr Thanks that is closer to what I am looking for. However
when he writes RB's settings. What do I put? I have callibrated my
monitor with Adobe Gamma and the colours are right when I print
only darker. I am using no colour adjustment in my printer
settings. I guess I am asking where he has his settings to put it
in the colour settings in PS colour settings.
I have a new Dell digital monitor so perhaps that is where my
problem arises. I have a NVidia card but disabled it as suggested
by the adobe forum as apparently Adobe Gamma cannot work if that is
enabled.
I am going nuts over this.

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http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/root

I have the same printer and a dell 17 inch flat panel monitor, right out of the box my dell monitor was way to bright, i used my canon s820 and printed several pics then used adobe gamma to adjust the monitor to match the prints, this worked good for me. I noticed that in the printer settings under advanced it has a gamma option that is set at 1.8, not sure if that has anything to do with your problem, my prints don't look to dark per se, but my greens on my monitor don't show up well in the prints, the greens in my prints have more yellow in them.

I just got the printer, wish i could help more.

PaulyOly said:

Fredy Ross said:

Roger Circle said:

Fredy,

This four-step tutorial by Russell Brown did it for me.
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/pdf/epsonprinting.pdf

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Roger

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fredyr Thanks that is closer to what I am looking for. However
when he writes RB's settings. What do I put? I have callibrated my
monitor with Adobe Gamma and the colours are right when I print
only darker. I am using no colour adjustment in my printer
settings. I guess I am asking where he has his settings to put it
in the colour settings in PS colour settings.
I have a new Dell digital monitor so perhaps that is where my
problem arises. I have a NVidia card but disabled it as suggested
by the adobe forum as apparently Adobe Gamma cannot work if that is
enabled.
I am going nuts over this.

Click to expand...

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http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/root

I have the same printer and a dell 17 inch flat panel monitor,
right out of the box my dell monitor was way to bright, i used my
canon s820 and printed several pics then used adobe gamma to adjust
the monitor to match the prints, this worked good for me. I
noticed that in the printer settings under advanced it has a gamma
option that is set at 1.8, not sure if that has anything to do with
your problem, my prints don't look to dark per se, but my greens on
my monitor don't show up well in the prints, the greens in my
prints have more yellow in them.

I just got the printer, wish i could help more.

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fredyr Have you got an NVidia card too? I disabled it as recommended. I too had the greens with too much yellow but that seems to be okay now. I had my last computer printing exactly WYSIWYG but this has me stumped. My printer doesn't show gamma settings so I don't know if it is set rightly or wrongly. I have the Dell 18" so about the same. Perhaps the problem stems from the digital monitor and it just can't be exactly the same. I am glad I am not in advertising or I would be broke.

Fredy Ross said:

PaulyOly said:

Fredy Ross said:

Roger Circle said:

Fredy,

This four-step tutorial by Russell Brown did it for me.
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips/pdf/epsonprinting.pdf

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Roger

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fredyr Thanks that is closer to what I am looking for. However
when he writes RB's settings. What do I put? I have callibrated my
monitor with Adobe Gamma and the colours are right when I print
only darker. I am using no colour adjustment in my printer
settings. I guess I am asking where he has his settings to put it
in the colour settings in PS colour settings.
I have a new Dell digital monitor so perhaps that is where my
problem arises. I have a NVidia card but disabled it as suggested
by the adobe forum as apparently Adobe Gamma cannot work if that is
enabled.
I am going nuts over this.

Click to expand...

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http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/root

I have the same printer and a dell 17 inch flat panel monitor,
right out of the box my dell monitor was way to bright, i used my
canon s820 and printed several pics then used adobe gamma to adjust
the monitor to match the prints, this worked good for me. I
noticed that in the printer settings under advanced it has a gamma
option that is set at 1.8, not sure if that has anything to do with
your problem, my prints don't look to dark per se, but my greens on
my monitor don't show up well in the prints, the greens in my
prints have more yellow in them.

I just got the printer, wish i could help more.

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fredyr Have you got an NVidia card too? I disabled it as
recommended. I too had the greens with too much yellow but that
seems to be okay now. I had my last computer printing exactly
WYSIWYG but this has me stumped. My printer doesn't show gamma
settings so I don't know if it is set rightly or wrongly. I have
the Dell 18" so about the same. Perhaps the problem stems from the
digital monitor and it just can't be exactly the same. I am glad I
am not in advertising or I would be broke.

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http://www.pbase.com/paulyoly/root

not sure what nvidia card is, is that a graphics card? I've been doing some test with the printer, you said you select no color adjustment selected right, i assume you select that in the advanced options, i get terrible results when i check no color adjustment, i leave it on color controls and to the right of that i have a box with gamma(D) next to it where i can select 1.5/1.8/2.2

I'm printing directly from elements, cliking print preview, i select color management and check more options, my print space profile is epson stylus photo 1280 and the intent is perceptual. I'm still playing with the setting doing test on some epson 8.5x11 matte paper, i've printed a couple of 13x19's on redrivers polar satin that look awesome except for the slightly yellow in the greens. My suggestion to you is adjust your monitor to match the printer and to hell with everything else, that's what i did using adobe gamma. If i can figure out how to do a screen grab i will show the printer settings i'm talking about.

what paper are you using? Are you trying to use a custom profile? Have you tried printing with the automatic setting? My prints don't really look darker than they do in photoshop, but like i said i've set the monitor to match the prints and from what your saying your monitor is not calibrated using a hardware device so i would say that's your problem. When i select no color adjustment in the advanced settings i get a picture that looks very dull compared to my screen, almost grey looking, i'm assuming that's because my document source space is srgb, but i'm still learning so i don't really know what i'm doing. I always do a low res 8x10 test before i print big!

. If i can figure out how to do a screen grab i will

PaulyOly said:

show the printer settings i'm talking about.

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Hit print screen> start> accessories> wordpad, right click mouse then paste. File save as.
Carl

Hi Freddy,

This sounds like a gamma mismatch between the printe and the colour management system within your OS. Windows generally use a gamma of 2.2, which is the sRGB standard. The Mac OS has a default gamma of 1.8 (confusing, isn't it?)

This is what I did for my Epson Stylus Photo EX and my WinXP box: I adjust the colours to my satisfaction within Photoshop 5.5, and before I print, I change the gamma to 1.8 (which is apparently the Epson default). File > Colour Settings > RGB Setup. I just plug in the gamma setting of 1.8. With the 1.8 gamma setting, the picture looks a lot lighter, but IT WILL print correctly in the Epson. Just remember to change it back to the original values after printing.

The newer Epson printers have user selectable gamma settings within the driver. For PC users, try the 2.2 gamma setting. My old Epson does not allow me to adjust the gamma so I have to do it within Photoshop. My friend has the newer Epson Stylus Photo 830....it prints beautifully from Photoshop at gamma 2.2.

If you're doing scanning, selecting the correct gamma setting is important as well. When I got my Epson Photo 3200 scanner, I was puzzled as to why my raw scans were way darker and more muddy looking than my old Canon. Digging around the scanner driver, I discovered the gamma settings buried several levels deep inside some menus. I set it to 2.2, and voila.....beautiful scans straight from the platen! (The 3200 is a great scanner btw)

Hope this helps some

Dennis said:

Hi Freddy,

This sounds like a gamma mismatch between the printe and the colour
management system within your OS. Windows generally use a gamma of
2.2, which is the sRGB standard. The Mac OS has a default gamma of
1.8 (confusing, isn't it?)

This is what I did for my Epson Stylus Photo EX and my WinXP box: I
adjust the colours to my satisfaction within Photoshop 5.5, and
before I print, I change the gamma to 1.8 (which is apparently the
Epson default). File > Colour Settings > RGB Setup. I just plug in
the gamma setting of 1.8. With the 1.8 gamma setting, the picture
looks a lot lighter, but IT WILL print correctly in the Epson. Just
remember to change it back to the original values after printing.

The newer Epson printers have user selectable gamma settings within
the driver. For PC users, try the 2.2 gamma setting. My old Epson
does not allow me to adjust the gamma so I have to do it within
Photoshop. My friend has the newer Epson Stylus Photo 830....it
prints beautifully from Photoshop at gamma 2.2.

If you're doing scanning, selecting the correct gamma setting is
important as well. When I got my Epson Photo 3200 scanner, I was
puzzled as to why my raw scans were way darker and more muddy
looking than my old Canon. Digging around the scanner driver, I
discovered the gamma settings buried several levels deep inside
some menus. I set it to 2.2, and voila.....beautiful scans straight
from the platen! (The 3200 is a great scanner btw)

Hope this helps some

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fredyr Thanks as I hadn't even noticed that the Gamma was something to be changed in photoshop. I have now changed it to 2.2. It is late but tomorrow I will see if that is the answer to my problem and if so thanks a lot.