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Sherwood M. said:
Daniella,

This is getting 'so off 300D topic' and old, but
I think you are confusing the 2 animals. They are different beasts.

The Lynx has virtually NO tail.
A stub at best.

Lynx have gigantic paws. Much bigger than a Bobcat.
Designed for walking on the snow. Basically grey-toned overall
all year round. Bobcats are more slender, spotted and colourful
in general compared to a Lynx. Like your photo clearly shows.
Shorter "ear tufts" and less-full "cheek tufts".

A Lynx will eat a Bobcat for lunch. A Cougar will eat a Lynx for
lunch...
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I'll make sure to never invite a Lynx, bobcat and cougar to lunch at the same time with me. There will be too much eating going on and I'm sure I would end up in the food chain somewhere in there :)
 
Here is an example of the differences between Lynx and Cougar ...

http://www.pbase.com/image/25296237

http://www.pbase.com/image/25296267
Sherwood M. said:
This is getting 'so off 300D topic' and old, but
I think you are confusing the 2 animals. They are different beasts.

The Lynx has virtually NO tail.
A stub at best.

Lynx have gigantic paws. Much bigger than a Bobcat.
Designed for walking on the snow. Basically grey-toned overall
all year round. Bobcats are more slender, spotted and colourful
in general compared to a Lynx. Like your photo clearly shows.
Shorter "ear tufts" and less-full "cheek tufts".

A Lynx will eat a Bobcat for lunch. A Cougar will eat a Lynx for
lunch...

You are very lucky to have photographed that cat.

Years ago I watched 2 beautiful wolves shot dead on my property
while watching them through my spotting scope run across my field
and ambushed by hunters hiding behind some pine trees. They were
being chased by hound dogs. The hunters hound dogs. By the time
the police arrived, they had dragged the dead wolves across 1/4
mile of
deep snow fields. They got away. I couldn't identify the @!%&$'s.

Sherwood.
===================
Daniella said:
I think they can be shot like 2 inches but that one had a longer
tail than 2 inches for sure. On the web site they say as little as
1 to 2 inches, but this is how short they can get. They are usualy
longer I think.
Sherwood M. said:
Daniella,

I was wondering since you know so much about N/A animals (I've only
painted "a few hundred" for the last 25 years), how long is the
tail of a Lynx?

Sherwood.
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Daniella said:
Justme said:
A stun gun? They're outlawed up here though. I wonder how
effective a stun gun would be against a big animal.
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not outlaw in California yet :) I think it if is efficient against
a 200 lbs man, it would be quite efficient against a 60 lbs animal,
but I could be wrong.
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I'm sure a stun gun will work most of the time. Not wanting this thread to go down another road but I remember from a police incident from many years ago (caught on videptape and broadcast on TV) which sparked a lot of rioting. I think the police hit him with a stun gun but it didn't seem to have worked as well on him as they'd wished. I think he may have been high on drugs at the time though. Still, better to have something than nothing.
Daniella68313 said:
There is also the risk that if the animal
has its jaw on you, this electric input might just tighten the bite
and the animal would have no control on releasing you and runing
away.
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If it has it's teeth on you and you hit it with the stun gun, wouldn't part of that charge go into you as well just through contact with the animal? I don't really know.
Daniella68313 said:
not sure what would hapen. I feel confident that it would
startle the animal enough so that it would let go and run away.
Electric color in big dogs have been used to train them. Beleive
me, once a dog receive one of these electric shock, it will never
cross the mark again. this is cruel I think and I condemn it, but
I can see it is efficient.
Daniella68313 said:
Daniella68313 said:
where do you live?
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Eastern Ontario, Canada. We have the Gatineaus and a longer drive
west takes you to places like Algonquin Park (never been there). I
grew up in Montreal but never saw any wildlife there (obviously)
except at some local parks and Granby Zoo which is a few hours
drive out of the city.
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I have been hiking in quebec woods all my chilhood and only living
thing that I saw there was a deer's white tail getting away from me
as fast as possible. Too many hunters there.
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It must be mainly in the Fall? Or do they hunt year round?
Daniella68313 said:
The only time that I
was really afraid in the woods when when I encountered hunters. I
was then hiding from them in the bushes until they left. Here in
California there is not much hunting and so many state and national
parks. Animals are not hunted anymore and they become less afraid
of humans.
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I know what you mean. The most dangerous "animal" can be humans.
Daniella68313 said:
There's also Parc Safari (Ontario?) where
Daniella68313 said:
the chimpanzees get on your car roof and jump up and down. What's
a good place near Montreal for wildlife? Laurentians?
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How about nowhere? I never heard of a place near Montreal where
you can see wildlife like this. I would think that you must go
pretty much north and in the wilderness far away from civilization
in order to see some bobcats in Quebec. I have been to the Safari
park. It is interesting to see this type of zoo, especialy the
part where you can get out of the car and see the zebras and other
antilope from close.
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Or they come to you. I think a few camels or llamas may have stuck their head (or tried to) inside the car. Big wet sloppy tongues.
Daniella68313 said:
This
Daniella68313 said:
spring/summer I hope to go back to Cape Breton for a more indepth
visit. I hope to see more of the wildlife this time. The last
trip was more of a drive through.
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Cap Breton? that is near the ocean. Probably you can see some
marine birds like the Puffin, not sure.
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Cape Breton is surrounded by water on many sides (Gulf of St. Lawrence on the west and Atlantic Ocean on the east). Yes, there are Puffins (I think) and lots of other birds and wildlife. They have a national park in the northern part of the island, Highlands National Park. There is plenty of wildlife there from what I've read. In Cape Breton there is a place called Bird Island where you see eagles among other types of birds. This should be very interesting with a long zoom lens.
 
I think we all know the difference between the lynx and cougar or mountain lion, but it is the difference between the lynx and bobcat that is not so obvious. Also your pictures although very nice, don't show any idea of the scale to compare both animals for size. I am guessing that the cougard is bigger than the lynx, which is bigger than the bobcat.
thenderaaa said:
http://www.pbase.com/image/25296237

http://www.pbase.com/image/25296267
Sherwood M. said:
This is getting 'so off 300D topic' and old, but
I think you are confusing the 2 animals. They are different beasts.

The Lynx has virtually NO tail.
A stub at best.

Lynx have gigantic paws. Much bigger than a Bobcat.
Designed for walking on the snow. Basically grey-toned overall
all year round. Bobcats are more slender, spotted and colourful
in general compared to a Lynx. Like your photo clearly shows.
Shorter "ear tufts" and less-full "cheek tufts".

A Lynx will eat a Bobcat for lunch. A Cougar will eat a Lynx for
lunch...

You are very lucky to have photographed that cat.

Years ago I watched 2 beautiful wolves shot dead on my property
while watching them through my spotting scope run across my field
and ambushed by hunters hiding behind some pine trees. They were
being chased by hound dogs. The hunters hound dogs. By the time
the police arrived, they had dragged the dead wolves across 1/4
mile of
deep snow fields. They got away. I couldn't identify the @!%&$'s.

Sherwood.
===================
Daniella said:
I think they can be shot like 2 inches but that one had a longer
tail than 2 inches for sure. On the web site they say as little as
1 to 2 inches, but this is how short they can get. They are usualy
longer I think.
Sherwood M. said:
Daniella,

I was wondering since you know so much about N/A animals (I've only
painted "a few hundred" for the last 25 years), how long is the
tail of a Lynx?

Sherwood.
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Yes, hard to get them to pose together !!

The Lynx is more massive than the bobcat, probably a good 10LBS heavier and much stronger. The Cougar is the obvious giant cat of the 3 ... no contest. I have seen the Bobcat in the wild, but not the Lynx or Cougar.
Daniella said:
thenderaaa said:
http://www.pbase.com/image/25296237

http://www.pbase.com/image/25296267
Sherwood M. said:
This is getting 'so off 300D topic' and old, but
I think you are confusing the 2 animals. They are different beasts.

The Lynx has virtually NO tail.
A stub at best.

Lynx have gigantic paws. Much bigger than a Bobcat.
Designed for walking on the snow. Basically grey-toned overall
all year round. Bobcats are more slender, spotted and colourful
in general compared to a Lynx. Like your photo clearly shows.
Shorter "ear tufts" and less-full "cheek tufts".

A Lynx will eat a Bobcat for lunch. A Cougar will eat a Lynx for
lunch...

You are very lucky to have photographed that cat.

Years ago I watched 2 beautiful wolves shot dead on my property
while watching them through my spotting scope run across my field
and ambushed by hunters hiding behind some pine trees. They were
being chased by hound dogs. The hunters hound dogs. By the time
the police arrived, they had dragged the dead wolves across 1/4
mile of
deep snow fields. They got away. I couldn't identify the @!%&$'s.

Sherwood.
===================
Daniella said:
I think they can be shot like 2 inches but that one had a longer
tail than 2 inches for sure. On the web site they say as little as
1 to 2 inches, but this is how short they can get. They are usualy
longer I think.
Sherwood M. said:
Daniella,

I was wondering since you know so much about N/A animals (I've only
painted "a few hundred" for the last 25 years), how long is the
tail of a Lynx?

Sherwood.
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--
I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
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This is inreresting:

"Despite its smaller size, the bobcat is also thought to be more aggressive than the lynx and in areas where their ranges meet, such as on the Cape Breton Island of Nova Scotia, the Bobcat has displaced the lynx from much of the island."

So if you go to Cape Breton, you might see some bobcats :) I hope you do.

Seems it is the bobcat who eats the lynx for lunch?

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/plaza/abf90/bobcat.htm
Justme said:
If it has it's teeth on you and you hit it with the stun gun,
wouldn't part of that charge go into you as well just through
contact with the animal? I don't really know.
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I don't think it can be transfered. As of you stun a man and you touch him at the same time, you will not get a shock. That is because the electricity is discharged into the person muscles I think, not acorss the person. That is a good question though.
 
Here is more of a Lynx body shot ....

http://www.pbase.com/image/25297328
Daniella said:
thenderaaa said:
http://www.pbase.com/image/25296237

http://www.pbase.com/image/25296267
Sherwood M. said:
This is getting 'so off 300D topic' and old, but
I think you are confusing the 2 animals. They are different beasts.

The Lynx has virtually NO tail.
A stub at best.

Lynx have gigantic paws. Much bigger than a Bobcat.
Designed for walking on the snow. Basically grey-toned overall
all year round. Bobcats are more slender, spotted and colourful
in general compared to a Lynx. Like your photo clearly shows.
Shorter "ear tufts" and less-full "cheek tufts".

A Lynx will eat a Bobcat for lunch. A Cougar will eat a Lynx for
lunch...

You are very lucky to have photographed that cat.

Years ago I watched 2 beautiful wolves shot dead on my property
while watching them through my spotting scope run across my field
and ambushed by hunters hiding behind some pine trees. They were
being chased by hound dogs. The hunters hound dogs. By the time
the police arrived, they had dragged the dead wolves across 1/4
mile of
deep snow fields. They got away. I couldn't identify the @!%&$'s.

Sherwood.
===================
Daniella said:
I think they can be shot like 2 inches but that one had a longer
tail than 2 inches for sure. On the web site they say as little as
1 to 2 inches, but this is how short they can get. They are usualy
longer I think.
Sherwood M. said:
Daniella,

I was wondering since you know so much about N/A animals (I've only
painted "a few hundred" for the last 25 years), how long is the
tail of a Lynx?

Sherwood.
==================
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--
I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
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Daniella said:
You mentioned the name Felis Rufus..how do you explain this?

http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/accounts/lynx/l._rufus $media.html
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How do I reply?

Simple,
The webpage is wrong. They goofed.
I use actual published data from the 'Audubon Society Field
Guide to North American Mammals', madamn. You like cut and paste
data from webpages like it's gospel. I'm not perfect, but don't throw
a bogus webpage at me created by who-knows-who.

Sherwood.
 
Daniella said:
This is inreresting:

"Despite its smaller size, the bobcat is also thought to be more
aggressive than the lynx and in areas where their ranges meet, such
as on the Cape Breton Island of Nova Scotia, the Bobcat has
displaced the lynx from much of the island."

So if you go to Cape Breton, you might see some bobcats :) I hope
you do.
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I hope so too. Just not a bobcat, cougar and lynx at the same time. See other post.
Daniella68313 said:
Seems it is the bobcat who eats the lynx for lunch?

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/plaza/abf90/bobcat.htm
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Thanks for the link. Interesting page. It also answered another question I had about it hunting during the day:

"Generally they hunt both by night and day, although there is evidence to suggest that most hunting takes place at dawn and dusk, corresponding to peak periods of activity of the hare and rabbit, their main prey species. Bobcat tend to be more diurnal during the winter months...".
Daniella68313 said:
Justme said:
If it has it's teeth on you and you hit it with the stun gun,
wouldn't part of that charge go into you as well just through
contact with the animal? I don't really know.
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I don't think it can be transfered. As of you stun a man and you
touch him at the same time, you will not get a shock.
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How do you know that? :-)
Daniella68313 said:
That is
because the electricity is discharged into the person muscles I
think, not acorss the person. That is a good question though.
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that's a good photo to see the fur. I can see it has almost no spotting and it is more gray than the bobcat. It seems more massive too.
thenderaaa said:
http://www.pbase.com/image/25297328
Daniella said:
thenderaaa said:
http://www.pbase.com/image/25296237

http://www.pbase.com/image/25296267
Sherwood M. said:
This is getting 'so off 300D topic' and old, but
I think you are confusing the 2 animals. They are different beasts.

The Lynx has virtually NO tail.
A stub at best.

Lynx have gigantic paws. Much bigger than a Bobcat.
Designed for walking on the snow. Basically grey-toned overall
all year round. Bobcats are more slender, spotted and colourful
in general compared to a Lynx. Like your photo clearly shows.
Shorter "ear tufts" and less-full "cheek tufts".

A Lynx will eat a Bobcat for lunch. A Cougar will eat a Lynx for
lunch...

You are very lucky to have photographed that cat.

Years ago I watched 2 beautiful wolves shot dead on my property
while watching them through my spotting scope run across my field
and ambushed by hunters hiding behind some pine trees. They were
being chased by hound dogs. The hunters hound dogs. By the time
the police arrived, they had dragged the dead wolves across 1/4
mile of
deep snow fields. They got away. I couldn't identify the @!%&$'s.

Sherwood.
===================
Daniella said:
I think they can be shot like 2 inches but that one had a longer
tail than 2 inches for sure. On the web site they say as little as
1 to 2 inches, but this is how short they can get. They are usualy
longer I think.
Sherwood M. said:
Daniella,

I was wondering since you know so much about N/A animals (I've only
painted "a few hundred" for the last 25 years), how long is the
tail of a Lynx?

Sherwood.
==================
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Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
 
 
Very nice! Seems to me that he/she was aware you were on his/her tail and was prepared to do some more running ;)
 
Actually,

The site Daniella linked to is at the U of Michigan. It is also confirmed by the Iowa Dept of Natural Resources list of endangered species as Lynx rufus (As a former Bio teacher i need to interject Genus is always capitalized species name is always lowercase for animals; IE Canis lupis is the wolf. The entire Scientific name should either be underlined or be in italics), as well as a number of zoo websites.

Now as far as the disparrity in names, genetic testing over the past 15 -20 years has brought about many changes in classifications. The bobcat and the Lynx have been reclassified as far as the genus is concerned (from Felis to Lynx). Long known as a member of the genus Felis, the most recent review of cat taxonomy emphasises the separate status of the lynxes (Wozencraft 1993).

I believe the proper taxonomic (Linnaen) classification is:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Carnivora
Family: Felidae
Genus: Lynx
Species: rufus
Sherwood M. said:
Daniella said:
You mentioned the name Felis Rufus..how do you explain this?

http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/accounts/lynx/l._rufus $media.html
Click to expand...
How do I reply?

Simple,
The webpage is wrong. They goofed.
I use actual published data from the 'Audubon Society Field
Guide to North American Mammals', madamn. You like cut and paste
data from webpages like it's gospel. I'm not perfect, but don't throw
a bogus webpage at me created by who-knows-who.

Sherwood.
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'What? Me fail English, that's unpossible!'
-Ralph Wiggums
 
and here is the Audubon society which he refered to:

http://www.audubon.org/local/sanctuary/sabal/bobcatht.html

same thing, lynx rufus.
theeaterofshades said:
Actually,

The site Daniella linked to is at the U of Michigan. It is also
confirmed by the Iowa Dept of Natural Resources list of endangered
species as Lynx rufus (As a former Bio teacher i need to interject
Genus is always capitalized species name is always lowercase for
animals; IE Canis lupis is the wolf. The entire Scientific name
should either be underlined or be in italics), as well as a number
of zoo websites.

Now as far as the disparrity in names, genetic testing over the
past 15 -20 years has brought about many changes in
classifications. The bobcat and the Lynx have been reclassified as
far as the genus is concerned (from Felis to Lynx). Long known as a
member of the genus Felis, the most recent review of cat taxonomy
emphasises the separate status of the lynxes (Wozencraft 1993).

I believe the proper taxonomic (Linnaen) classification is:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Carnivora
Family: Felidae
Genus: Lynx
Species: rufus
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sounds about right, thanks :)
 
Daniella said:
Justme said:
It sounds like the bobcat is not an animal to be feared if people
are getting that close to it. How big are they and in this picture?
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Actualy it was quite calm and I could get about 10 to 15 feet from
it. it was walking away from me but not running.. when he first
saw me, I startled him and he started running a bit but stopped and
looked at me. this is when I took the pic. then he resumed his
walk and went up a small hill. I followed him up there but he was
gone. My boyfriend cought up with us just as the bobcat was going
down the hill, right in front of him. He was not afraid of my
boyfriend and just walked by pass him.

He was about the size of a normal rottweiler dog. Maybe 50 lbs.
Maybe the size of a medium breed dog, like golden retreiver but
more bulky and massive paws. I thought he was quite big for a
bobcat. hard to tell the weight with all that fur.
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Just curious, do they make any sounds when walking, running? I imagine the woods would muffle any noise. In the area where the bobcat was spotted, did you see any other animals? I forget how you noticed it at first. Was it a sound or you saw some movement?

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it did not made any noise that I could hear. Even when I followed it up the hill and could not find it, I stopped to look everywhere and could not hear a sound. He was going off the hill via the other side but I did not hear him at all. they are very silent from what I can tell.

I first spotted him far away as he was walking on the trail, on broad day light. I first I thought it was a coyotee, and when I looked through my lens at 300mm, I realized what it was and started jogging, camera gear and all...

Here is what I captured then, and only then I saw what it really was, because of the short tail.


Justme said:
Daniella said:
Justme said:
It sounds like the bobcat is not an animal to be feared if people
are getting that close to it. How big are they and in this picture?
Click to expand...
Actualy it was quite calm and I could get about 10 to 15 feet from
it. it was walking away from me but not running.. when he first
saw me, I startled him and he started running a bit but stopped and
looked at me. this is when I took the pic. then he resumed his
walk and went up a small hill. I followed him up there but he was
gone. My boyfriend cought up with us just as the bobcat was going
down the hill, right in front of him. He was not afraid of my
boyfriend and just walked by pass him.

He was about the size of a normal rottweiler dog. Maybe 50 lbs.
Maybe the size of a medium breed dog, like golden retreiver but
more bulky and massive paws. I thought he was quite big for a
bobcat. hard to tell the weight with all that fur.
Click to expand...
Just curious, do they make any sounds when walking, running? I
imagine the woods would muffle any noise. In the area where the
bobcat was spotted, did you see any other animals? I forget how
you noticed it at first. Was it a sound or you saw some movement?

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http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/hopewell_rocks
http://www.pbase.com/golfpic/cabot_trail__cape_breton
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Daniella said:
it did not made any noise that I could hear. Even when I followed
it up the hill and could not find it, I stopped to look everywhere
and could not hear a sound. He was going off the hill via the
other side but I did not hear him at all. they are very silent
from what I can tell.
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Chances are good if it really wanted to stalk something it can do it quite effectively without the prey being aware of its presence until the last moment. No noise and camouflage make a deadly combo.
Daniella68313 said:
I first spotted him far away as he was walking on the trail, on
broad day light. I first I thought it was a coyotee, and when I
looked through my lens at 300mm, I realized what it was and started
jogging, camera gear and all...
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Oh, that looks good. The green grass that is :) All I can see up here now is white, as in snow. Lots of it.
Daniella68313 said:
Here is what I captured then, and only then I saw what it really
was, because of the short tail.
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I see what you mean.
Daniella68313 said:

Justme said:
Daniella said:
Justme said:
It sounds like the bobcat is not an animal to be feared if people
are getting that close to it. How big are they and in this picture?
Click to expand...
Actualy it was quite calm and I could get about 10 to 15 feet from
it. it was walking away from me but not running.. when he first
saw me, I startled him and he started running a bit but stopped and
looked at me. this is when I took the pic. then he resumed his
walk and went up a small hill. I followed him up there but he was
gone. My boyfriend cought up with us just as the bobcat was going
down the hill, right in front of him. He was not afraid of my
boyfriend and just walked by pass him.

He was about the size of a normal rottweiler dog. Maybe 50 lbs.
Maybe the size of a medium breed dog, like golden retreiver but
more bulky and massive paws. I thought he was quite big for a
bobcat. hard to tell the weight with all that fur.
Click to expand...
Just curious, do they make any sounds when walking, running? I
imagine the woods would muffle any noise. In the area where the
bobcat was spotted, did you see any other animals? I forget how
you noticed it at first. Was it a sound or you saw some movement?
Click to expand...
--
I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
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