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Hey everyone,

Just wanted to post my reasons for choosing the EOS-300D over the the 10D.

In a perfect world, I wanted:

-Full Frame
-more than 10 megapixel
-metal body
-light weight
-C$2000 price point
-I'm thinking 4 years before this will happen

So, while I'm waiting, which camera do I want to be "stuck" with using?

-metal-bodied 10D - great feel, better features, more $$$

-plastic-bodied 300D - lacks pro feel, but nice and light, less features, less $$$

Bottom line for me: The 300D had enough of the good stuff going for it to use in the mean time, waiting for my dream camera to drop. I'm hoping when I do switch to the other camera in serveral years I will have spend less overall (after selling Rebel) to purchase my new camera.

Signa
 
Agree with that thinking completely. Am learning a ton using the Rebel, and it sure can take better photos that I can...

a great way to start collecting the lenses that will be used in that dream camera in 2006...

Don
 
My decision was based on price as well, and also to learn the camera operations of a DSLR, my plans are to get a 10D eventually and use my 300D as a backup, I couldnt imagine not keeping it, it has been so good. How many times have you missed a shot because you had the wrong lens mounted, If I have 2, those chances decrease.

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True. For me, I can't count the times I missed my shot because my digital point and shoot was not ready! Got a renewed interest in photography since I picked up this baby!
Dan Merz said:
My decision was based on price as well, and also to learn the
camera operations of a DSLR, my plans are to get a 10D eventually
and use my 300D as a backup, I couldnt imagine not keeping it, it
has been so good. How many times have you missed a shot because you
had the wrong lens mounted, If I have 2, those chances decrease.

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There are no rules for good photographs,
there are only good photographs.
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http://www.pbase.com/dmerz
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SignaC said:
-metal-bodied 10D - great feel, better features, more $$$
-plastic-bodied 300D - lacks pro feel, but nice and light, less
features, less $$$
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I made the same choice. But my reasons were different:

o Did not like the feel of the 10D (seemed to big in my hand)
o 300D is 8 oz lighter (no big deal, but ...)

I decided against the 10D before I knew there would be a 300D. When the DR was released I jumped on it and have no regrets -- though, so far, I've not come close to using even all of its (vs. 10D) capabilities.

Re full frame dSLR: That is likely to be bigger and heavier and, though operation at higher ISO should be possible and there will be no cropping factor, I will hve to think on it. With the 300D and my lenses I can go from (35 mm equiv) 28 mm to 480 mm [Kit lens, 28-135 IS, Sigma 70-30 APO + 50 mm f/1.8 II].

But perhaps by then my dSLR skills and appetites will have developed, thanks to the 300D, to the point I want more and am willing to carry it.

Of course, if I get TOO avid, I may be driven into "L-glass land" -- an expensive region indeed :-)

Phil
 
I obviously concur with your choices - in my profile you will find the exact same glass in my bag. Options w/o breaking the bank, and good quality to boot! ~ m²
Phil Wheeler said:
Re full frame dSLR: That is likely to be bigger and heavier and,
though operation at higher ISO should be possible and there will be
no cropping factor, I will hve to think on it. With the 300D and
my lenses I can go from (35 mm equiv) 28 mm to 480 mm [Kit lens,
28-135 IS, Sigma 70-30 APO + 50 mm f/1.8 II].
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'Brothers and sisters, we've learned that there's some bad bokeh going around out there. So like, just be careful man, alright?' (If Wavy Gravy emceed PMA) http://rhodeymark.instantlogic.com

 
based on your needs and the cameras feature set. I suppose price and weight are included within the needs set as well.
SignaC said:
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to post my reasons for choosing the EOS-300D over the
the 10D.

In a perfect world, I wanted:

-Full Frame
-more than 10 megapixel
-metal body
-light weight
-C$2000 price point
-I'm thinking 4 years before this will happen

So, while I'm waiting, which camera do I want to be "stuck" with
using?

-metal-bodied 10D - great feel, better features, more $$$
-plastic-bodied 300D - lacks pro feel, but nice and light, less
features, less $$$

Bottom line for me: The 300D had enough of the good stuff going for
it to use in the mean time, waiting for my dream camera to drop.
I'm hoping when I do switch to the other camera in serveral years I
will have spend less overall (after selling Rebel) to purchase my
new camera.

Signa
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..per Popular Photography's tests. They found that in low light the Rebel required less time to achieve a lock and that when it got dim the 10D would lose the ability to focus while the cheaper camera kept going.

Stan
 
Stan said:
..per Popular Photography's tests.
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Good thing their chart did take a step towards them ;-)
Stan said:
..per Popular Photography's tests. They found that in low light
the Rebel required less time to achieve a lock and that when it got
dim the 10D would lose the ability to focus while the cheaper
camera kept going.

Stan
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Povl H. Pedersen said:
Povl H. Pedersen said:
With the 300D and
my lenses I can go from (35 mm equiv) 28 mm to 480 mm [Kit lens,
28-135 IS, Sigma 70-30 APO + 50 mm f/1.8 II].
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I have them as well (but Canon 75-300 instead of Sigma 70-300) + a
Tamron 28-200mm XR I am trying to sell. The 28-135mm will then be
primary lens.
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I have the Tamron 28-200 XR, too, and the 28-135 IS has made it a spare. The XR is a good lens but the IS is better - and has IS!

If I want to sell, I think I have a market: A friend with the original Tamron 28-200 (current one is version 4 and a huge improvement).

Phil
 
With the 10D, the cheapest Canon WA zoom lens similar in range to the kit lens is the 17-40L, which is $700. Great lens, but Ouch!.
SignaC said:
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to post my reasons for choosing the EOS-300D over the
the 10D.

In a perfect world, I wanted:

-Full Frame
-more than 10 megapixel
-metal body
-light weight
-C$2000 price point
-I'm thinking 4 years before this will happen

So, while I'm waiting, which camera do I want to be "stuck" with
using?

-metal-bodied 10D - great feel, better features, more $$$
-plastic-bodied 300D - lacks pro feel, but nice and light, less
features, less $$$

Bottom line for me: The 300D had enough of the good stuff going for
it to use in the mean time, waiting for my dream camera to drop.
I'm hoping when I do switch to the other camera in serveral years I
will have spend less overall (after selling Rebel) to purchase my
new camera.

Signa
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Exactly. That's really the only feature I miss on the 300D. I wish I would have known how much I'd miss it. I just couldn't bring myself to spend about 1500 rather than about 800 (when you account for the lens) for a camera with questionable focus that's nearer to being replaced. I figured if I bought the 300D and then replaced it with a 10Ds in a year I'd be much happier than if I'd bought the 10D and then had to replace that in a year.

I just didn't know how much I'd miss that selectable, reliable servo of the 10D.
Paul Chaplo said:
pchaplo said:
..per Popular Photography's tests.
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Good thing their chart did take a step towards them ;-)
Stan said:
..per Popular Photography's tests. They found that in low light
the Rebel required less time to achieve a lock and that when it got
dim the 10D would lose the ability to focus while the cheaper
camera kept going.

Stan
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'... they need no candle, neither the light of the sun ...'
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I dont really think you have to justify your choice cos In terms of the 2 Cameras , your options were/are : $900 and change , ready to go same image quality as 10D OR $2000+ for the 10D + lens. Thats a pretty big leap i n $ for a starter DSLR system unless you already have quality glass and need what the 10D has to offer.

The price of the 300D hooked me and it lit the fire , some nice Glass and a 10d fed it:)
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Rodney Gold

The nicest thing about smacking your head against the the wall is.......The feeling you get when you stop
 
I agree with your logic, and made my decision for the same reasons. But I feel the comment about not having a 'pro feel' is nonsense. I'm a pro and I am absolutely loving the feel of this camera. Spot welded polycarbonate. They make stealth fighters out of this stuff. Fabulous ergonomics - infinitely better than any of the F-body Nikons I've ever owned or used. And the metal-lam finish is the perfect metaphor for a new age in photography. =o)
SignaC said:
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to post my reasons for choosing the EOS-300D over the
the 10D.

In a perfect world, I wanted:

-Full Frame
-more than 10 megapixel
-metal body
-light weight
-C$2000 price point
-I'm thinking 4 years before this will happen

So, while I'm waiting, which camera do I want to be "stuck" with
using?

-metal-bodied 10D - great feel, better features, more $$$
-plastic-bodied 300D - lacks pro feel, but nice and light, less
features, less $$$

Bottom line for me: The 300D had enough of the good stuff going for
it to use in the mean time, waiting for my dream camera to drop.
I'm hoping when I do switch to the other camera in serveral years I
will have spend less overall (after selling Rebel) to purchase my
new camera.

Signa
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Feel is subjective Star.

I do see the point you are making. I.E. a lot of high tech stuff is now made of plastic. Does it make it better? Hmmm, well, it does make it cheaper! I much prefer solid products machined or cast in metal. I've got a couple of plastic Casio watches, and a stainless Tag Heuer. Which is better? I prefer the Tag because of the feel, yet the Casio keeps perfectly good time.

I much preferred my F90 "feel" over the Rebel, but hey, I'm not going back to film! Also, I'm crazy about the silver paint on the 300D. It reminds me of a consumer product. A high quality product, but doesn't (to me) look as professional as the black 10D.

As far as being a Pro and using the Rebel, I have no doubt the cam will do everything you want it to do.

That said, I cannot see a Photojournalist knocking this digicam around on a daily basis and have it survive. The CF seems like it'd be the first thing to go...

We are lucky to have the choice of the Rebel, the 10D, or the full frame 1Ds, and to nick-pick a little. We are living in some good times my friend.
star target said:
SignaC said:
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to post my reasons for choosing the EOS-300D over the
the 10D.

In a perfect world, I wanted:

-Full Frame
-more than 10 megapixel
-metal body
-light weight
-C$2000 price point
-I'm thinking 4 years before this will happen

So, while I'm waiting, which camera do I want to be "stuck" with
using?

-metal-bodied 10D - great feel, better features, more $$$
-plastic-bodied 300D - lacks pro feel, but nice and light, less
features, less $$$

Bottom line for me: The 300D had enough of the good stuff going for
it to use in the mean time, waiting for my dream camera to drop.
I'm hoping when I do switch to the other camera in serveral years I
will have spend less overall (after selling Rebel) to purchase my
new camera.

Signa
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RapidPix said:
I just didn't know how much I'd miss that selectable, reliable
servo of the 10D.
Paul Chaplo said:
RapidPix said:
..per Popular Photography's tests.
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Good thing their chart did take a step towards them ;-)
Stan said:
..per Popular Photography's tests. They found that in low light
the Rebel required less time to achieve a lock and that when it got
dim the 10D would lose the ability to focus while the cheaper
camera kept going.

Stan
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'... they need no candle, neither the light of the sun ...'
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Got a question.

Click responsiveness and write time.

If I want to shoot - smaller pics , say not 'hi' or not 'raw' but something like
'basic' or 'normal' or 'fine', which camera is the fastest ?

1D is suppose to be great, I suspect 300D takes a bit longer to write.

I'm not looking for race track bufferring but something smart that will not slow down a fashion shoot. Shoot and re-aim and shoot again.

Is there a difference between the 10D and 300D ?
SignaC said:
I do see the point you are making. I.E. a lot of high tech stuff
is now made of plastic. Does it make it better? Hmmm, well, it
does make it cheaper! I much prefer solid products machined or
cast in metal. I've got a couple of plastic Casio watches, and a
stainless Tag Heuer. Which is better? I prefer the Tag because of
the feel, yet the Casio keeps perfectly good time.

I much preferred my F90 "feel" over the Rebel, but hey, I'm not
going back to film! Also, I'm crazy about the silver paint on the
300D. It reminds me of a consumer product. A high quality
product, but doesn't (to me) look as professional as the black 10D.

As far as being a Pro and using the Rebel, I have no doubt the cam
will do everything you want it to do.

That said, I cannot see a Photojournalist knocking this digicam
around on a daily basis and have it survive. The CF seems like
it'd be the first thing to go...

We are lucky to have the choice of the Rebel, the 10D, or the full
frame 1Ds, and to nick-pick a little. We are living in some good
times my friend.
star target said:
SignaC said:
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to post my reasons for choosing the EOS-300D over the
the 10D.

In a perfect world, I wanted:

-Full Frame
-more than 10 megapixel
-metal body
-light weight
-C$2000 price point
-I'm thinking 4 years before this will happen

So, while I'm waiting, which camera do I want to be "stuck" with
using?

-metal-bodied 10D - great feel, better features, more $$$
-plastic-bodied 300D - lacks pro feel, but nice and light, less
features, less $$$

Bottom line for me: The 300D had enough of the good stuff going for
it to use in the mean time, waiting for my dream camera to drop.
I'm hoping when I do switch to the other camera in serveral years I
will have spend less overall (after selling Rebel) to purchase my
new camera.

Signa
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I have owned the DR for a couple of months and I wish I had read more details about the DR before I bought it. Not because of the looks but, because of what I plan on using the camera for. I wish the salemen would have asked me more question on how I was going to use the camera.

I will primarily be using the camera for indoor sports and night high school (American) football games. I would have been willing to spend the extra $700 for the much better AI servo and AI Focus control! The DR has a very temperamental AI Servo and in "Sport" mode, the ISO is only 400 making it useless for indoor sports games with poor lighting! I use a 50mm 1.8 lens to get the shutter speed I need but I really need a realible AI Servo! I hear that the 10D has better AI Servo modes.

In general, if I had realized that the sports mode was useless for me, I would have returned it if I had discovered this in the first 30 days and bought the 10D. I may still be selling my DR and buying the 10D if with practice, the DR doesn't get better results with indoor sports. Looks like the DR are still selling good on eBay.

I agree, the 10D is much more of a professional looking camera and I regret not buying it over the DR.

Just my thought after using the DR for a couple of months. But it looks like most of the users of this camera don't use it primarily for sports. Lucky all of you. It is a great camera otherwards!

Brian
SignaC said:
I do see the point you are making. I.E. a lot of high tech stuff
is now made of plastic. Does it make it better? Hmmm, well, it
does make it cheaper! I much prefer solid products machined or
cast in metal. I've got a couple of plastic Casio watches, and a
stainless Tag Heuer. Which is better? I prefer the Tag because of
the feel, yet the Casio keeps perfectly good time.

I much preferred my F90 "feel" over the Rebel, but hey, I'm not
going back to film! Also, I'm crazy about the silver paint on the
300D. It reminds me of a consumer product. A high quality
product, but doesn't (to me) look as professional as the black 10D.

As far as being a Pro and using the Rebel, I have no doubt the cam
will do everything you want it to do.

That said, I cannot see a Photojournalist knocking this digicam
around on a daily basis and have it survive. The CF seems like
it'd be the first thing to go...

We are lucky to have the choice of the Rebel, the 10D, or the full
frame 1Ds, and to nick-pick a little. We are living in some good
times my friend.
star target said:
SignaC said:
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to post my reasons for choosing the EOS-300D over the
the 10D.

In a perfect world, I wanted:

-Full Frame
-more than 10 megapixel
-metal body
-light weight
-C$2000 price point
-I'm thinking 4 years before this will happen

So, while I'm waiting, which camera do I want to be "stuck" with
using?

-metal-bodied 10D - great feel, better features, more $$$
-plastic-bodied 300D - lacks pro feel, but nice and light, less
features, less $$$

Bottom line for me: The 300D had enough of the good stuff going for
it to use in the mean time, waiting for my dream camera to drop.
I'm hoping when I do switch to the other camera in serveral years I
will have spend less overall (after selling Rebel) to purchase my
new camera.

Signa
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