I think the point is that if less noise and more speed is available at close to the same cost, why shouldn't I take those tools and use them, rather than rationalizing the A1' obvious weaknesses (resolution/noise) as character-builders?
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toughluck
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I did see it tested, and in fact, it's still on sale in Europe. How much does it cost? Guess... ?1,400 - quite a little for a Contax.
And, only recently, it received quite a nice review (Christmas shopping list for digital cameras) in one of the European magazines. Sorry - I can't tell which, I usually browse through every available one in the shop, and don't buy them, so I really can't tell. So - based on that review, you would say it's a very good camera.
Based on other reviews, however... Not so. It seems its ridden by noise problems at ISO 200 and above. So 6 megapixels don't mean much noise-wise if you don't have good design.
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toughluck
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Heck, I've read Phil's review, and I really think the A1 is a formidable camera with very good features and remarkable image quality. Sure - if you use in-camera processing, what do you expect? Switch to RAW, however, and you'll have a lot more potential.
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Randy,
A camera with less noise and more speed with a 28-200 mm (@ 2.8/3.5) equivalent zoom and AS for about the same money? Please let me know which one and my A1 will get replaced ASAP.
Sorry if I misled to believe that the only things I like about my A1 are resolution and noise. Au contraire, pardon my French and this is why I stick to my Nikon F100 and the Nikkor lens kit.
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ph0t0man
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I knew his points weren't completely valid. I just don't know enough of the technical jargin to sound intelegent, so I wasn't going to flame. He wasn't distinguishing between film and digital enough to make sense.
On another, but similar note: It's amazing how many people think that DPI is a digital camera term, and has something to do with pixels. Indirectly it does, but not they way most people use it. BTW, I am refering to customers at print shops, not people using this forum, who are much more educated (in general).
Thanks for getting things straight.
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On another, but similar note: It's amazing how many people think that DPI is a digital camera term, and has something to do with pixels. Indirectly it does, but not they way most people use it. BTW, I am refering to customers at print shops, not people using this forum, who are much more educated (in general).
Thanks for getting things straight.
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chips2
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Actually I am not really resigned to accepting anything since I am satisfied with the Minolta A1. Granted that may be the result of having a number of other cameras, digital and film, that can be used if the need arises.
Darned if I know. I seem to be getting good results with the A1 at both ISO 100, which is really a bit higher if you compare it to film ISO ratings, and at ISO 200 as well. I rarely if ever shoot anything using an ISO of 800. I suppose at some time I have stuck a roll of film with an ISO 800 rating in a camera. Darned if I can recall ever doing it. But then I do not shoot sports shots so maybe that is why I do not need it. I do use film with an ISO rating of 400 when using my Minolta 7000 35 mmwith a big telephoto lens.
I guess the thing for me to do is to go out and shoot some stuff at 400 and 800 to see just how poorly my camera is performing. Boy my wife is going to kill me when I tell her the new A1 is just not up to my photographic skill level.
Chips2
Question 1: How many good pictures have you missed while swapping lenses or trying to decide which one to use?
Question 2: How many good pictures have you missed because the camera or a key lens was at home?
Question 3: If you made the sensor 6Mp full frame, would you then be under utilising the lens resolving power?
And in answer to your question, I am more than happy with my A1. When resolution is critical, I will get my medium format gear down. A DSLR solution to my photography needs would have cost me at least £1500, but would most likely have stayed at home with my 35mm gear for all the same reasons that the 35mm gear does (cumbersome, difficult to carry, slow to change lenses, a point and shoot would cover 99% of what I am likely to see today). Whatever the technical flaws of the small sensor camera, it can take great photos that go to A3+, which is just fine for me! If noise is improved and the price / weight / size do not increase, then I would say that a worthwhile improvement was made. If however, the camera gets bigger, heavier and more expensive to kill the noise, my A1 will stay.
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José B
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Hi Daniel,
I have the Tamron 19-35 and it is what I call 'plastic fantastic'. Pretty good lens at reasonable price.
I don't get hang up on this crop factor. As a matter of fact, I do prefer a crop ratio of 1.5-1.6x. Besides, I still plan to use my Maxxum SLRs and shoot film especially for landscapes.
Cheers,
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Tony SD
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I'd settle for an A1 with a 50 ISO setting - I'sure this would settle much of the noise. Couple this with the excellent AS and you've got an effective 200. As one who cut his photographic teeth on Kodachrome ASA 12 this would be photographic nirvana...
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To all you A1 users out there, my apology for a flip remark at the end of a long thread -- I should have worded it differently.
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