B&W Sample

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Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
You are too kind. The model is my 7 year old daughter, Harriet.

With such beautiful examples that I see here I was a little hesitant so I must come clean as to why I posted the shot.

I am not normally swayed by such trivia, but there was a piece of advice in my horoscope in a daily newspaper (spotted by my wife I hasten to add!!). It was along the lines that a picture of my kids should be entered into a photo competition and that it would have a profound affect on my life!! As I spend a great deal of time taking pictures of my kids and playing around with them on my computer my wife thought this was advice I should follow.

I know that this forum is not a competition, but as it is seen widely I thought, hey, why not post it, you never know your luck. Fortune favours the brave!!

Sal, I saw your posting about the photographer who tried to get access your knowledge in a rather deceptive way. Take it as a compliment. There was a pro, asking for your advice. I would take heart and look at doing what she was offering, i.e. instant results, but use your skill and equipement to do it better. As they say, don't get mad get even!.
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
Peter,

That lighting is to die for. Great effort. Those eyes feel like they are looking right through me (scary). Hard to believe that a digital cameras have come this far, but you have the ability too.

Regards,

Steve C.
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
Peter,

This is a spectacular image. Very nicely done from all aspects...lighting, composition, subject, etc. It is the most compelling image I have seen posted in a long time.

I don't give out any prizes but it is my pic for photo of the month!

Excellent work!

Please post some more!

MichaelT
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
Here's where you get it direct from the developer.

They have a special on a version that is good for inkjet and web use only. NIK Sharpener Pro is what you should investigate.

Also, check out the ColorEFX Pro product if you like B&W

http://www.tech-nik.com/english/products.html

Happy New Millennium!
Steadman
Nice lighting. Where do you get NIC Sharpener? Is it really that
much better than PS 6.0?
 
Shooting Date/Time
12/31/00 02:06:38
Shooting Mode
Aperture-Priority AE
Tv (Shutter Speed)
1/40
Av (Aperture Value)
4.5
Metering Mode
Evaluative
Exposure Compensation
0
ISO Speed
200
Lens
28.0 - 105.0 mm
Focal Length
105.0 mm
Image Size
2160 x 1440
Image Quality
RAW
Flash
Off
White Balance
Auto
AF Mode
One-Shot AF
Focusing Point

Parameters
Contrast Normal
Sharpness Normal
Color Saturation Normal
File Size
2628 KB
What´s the pictures settings ? (Post the exif info)

Mihai
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
Here it is as it came out of the camera. All I have done is to convert the RAW image to JPEG and to reduce the size by 50%

Peter Holton.


Is there anyway you can post a JPG of the original (color) D30
shot? I want to evaluate just how much SilverOxide's FP4 filter
contributed to this spectacular B&W image.
What´s the pictures settings ? (Post the exif info)

Mihai
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!
 
Beautiful picture.
There is plenty of trust between you and the model.

I notice that the highlights are "blown" in the B&W picture, while they are very good in the color original. Do you know why?
Is it my monitor? No one else seems to comment on this.

Andrzej
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
Peter

I made a quick test of the colour jpeg you posted below to see if I could use PS Channel mixer to get close to the Silver Oxide tonal values. I used Red:60, Green:58, Blue:-12, Constant:0 and altered brightness/constrast slightly. Here is the result:



Note that I didn't make any changes to the colour jpeg such as sharpening or contrast.

Mike.
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
That is an impressive result. I think it is very, very close.

Just one observation, do you think the lip colour is the same. It looks a slightly deeper shade on your example, even allowing for the fact that your image is very slightly darker. It is the way that SilverOxides plug ins deal with reds (and greens) that is their strong point.

Anyone else agree?

Peter Holton
I made a quick test of the colour jpeg you posted below to see if I
could use PS Channel mixer to get close to the Silver Oxide tonal
values. I used Red:60, Green:58, Blue:-12, Constant:0 and altered
brightness/constrast slightly. Here is the result:



Note that I didn't make any changes to the colour jpeg such as
sharpening or contrast.

Mike.
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
Peter,

I agree there are subtle differences between the versions...the channel mixed shot has slightly "muddied" highlights (see the whites of the eyes). But, bearing in mind I'm very new to this channel mixing stuff and also only spent something like 2-3 minutes tweeking the image...I think there's lots of room to improve it.

However, I think people should keep in mind that the idea should not be to attain the Silver Oxide FP4 tone exactly...there filter is also only an approximation of real FP4. I feel that unless you need these filters to allow previous film experience to be relevant, you should be able to get by just fine with a little channel mix work and still achieve great results.

Cheers!
Mike.
Just one observation, do you think the lip colour is the same. It
looks a slightly deeper shade on your example, even allowing for
the fact that your image is very slightly darker. It is the way
that SilverOxides plug ins deal with reds (and greens) that is
their strong point.

Anyone else agree?

Peter Holton
I made a quick test of the colour jpeg you posted below to see if I
could use PS Channel mixer to get close to the Silver Oxide tonal
values. I used Red:60, Green:58, Blue:-12, Constant:0 and altered
brightness/constrast slightly. Here is the result:



Note that I didn't make any changes to the colour jpeg such as
sharpening or contrast.

Mike.
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 
Mike,

I agree that making your own filter is a very good idea as it gives you control and saves money. I guess that working on a set of grey scales from SilverOxide and replicating them in Channel Mixer and then saving them for future use is one way to go.

I have a lot of confidence in the SO filters and believe that they represent good value. Yes I could, in time replicate (I think) what they have achieved. I would rather spend the $35 and be sure I was getting an accurate result.

I guess you are either the sort of person that likes the help plug ins offer or you like to save the money and do it yourself. I could be totally wrong but it is my understanding that most plug ins use PS's in built features and simply automate critical functions (Nic Sharpener is another example).

Anyway, I find it reassuring using plug ins from people who have far greater expertise and don't mind paying for the privilege. If you can do it yourself, good for you! You will be able to put those savings into areas more useful to you.

Peter H.
I agree there are subtle differences between the versions...the
channel mixed shot has slightly "muddied" highlights (see the
whites of the eyes). But, bearing in mind I'm very new to this
channel mixing stuff and also only spent something like 2-3 minutes
tweeking the image...I think there's lots of room to improve it.

However, I think people should keep in mind that the idea should
not be to attain the Silver Oxide FP4 tone exactly...there filter
is also only an approximation of real FP4. I feel that unless you
need these filters to allow previous film experience to be
relevant, you should be able to get by just fine with a little
channel mix work and still achieve great results.

Cheers!
Mike.
Just one observation, do you think the lip colour is the same. It
looks a slightly deeper shade on your example, even allowing for
the fact that your image is very slightly darker. It is the way
that SilverOxides plug ins deal with reds (and greens) that is
their strong point.

Anyone else agree?

Peter Holton
I made a quick test of the colour jpeg you posted below to see if I
could use PS Channel mixer to get close to the Silver Oxide tonal
values. I used Red:60, Green:58, Blue:-12, Constant:0 and altered
brightness/constrast slightly. Here is the result:



Note that I didn't make any changes to the colour jpeg such as
sharpening or contrast.

Mike.
Filtered with Nic Sharpener and SilverOxide FP4. Critique welcome!

 

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