R Stacy
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Does anyone know if Oly plans an upgraded E20? With the 4/3 system?
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NEW Olympus E30N !!
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digitalphoto
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I guess if you could find any solace in your misfortune is that they didnt steal the Harley : / but then Harley could be your wife or husband I guess - ; )
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Garry Schaefer
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I've seen no indication that Olympus will further pursue the E-xx line now that they have moved into the interchangeable lens 4/3 system.
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R Stacy
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Rober_in_LA
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I have a friend of a friend who works in Marketing for Olympus in Japan who said they will not make a E-30. The push is on the E1 and so to be announced consumer version on the E1 that will cost less then $1000.00 USD. To keep up with the market demands Oly is focused on the non-fixed lens market (ie: interchangable lenses).
Sorry about the bad news.
Sorry about the bad news.
Joseph S Wisniewski
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Nikon didn't "move into" the E-XX class (with their 5700) until after they had been in the DSLR business for years, and had three DSLRs (D1X, D1H, D100) shipping at the same time.
Fuji does fine with S2 and S7000.
They are different market segments, not mutually exclusive, and you can make money in all of them at the same time.
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I read that Oly will make available two affordable versions of
the E-1 this year but I did not think that it would be that affordable.
Well, they need to compete with Canon 300D (Rebel) and Nikon
D70, don't they?
One other thing, I wonder how they will call their two smaller lines.
Nikon and Canon reserve the "one-digit" designation for their flagship
line while using two-digit or even three for lower lines. Oly has
obviously used E-10 and E-20. Does this make the up and coming
models something like E-100?
the E-1 this year but I did not think that it would be that affordable.
Well, they need to compete with Canon 300D (Rebel) and Nikon
D70, don't they?
One other thing, I wonder how they will call their two smaller lines.
Nikon and Canon reserve the "one-digit" designation for their flagship
line while using two-digit or even three for lower lines. Oly has
obviously used E-10 and E-20. Does this make the up and coming
models something like E-100?
Old Ashtonian
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Joe's Bike was stolen from his garage
As for the E30 We should wait till PMA!
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As for the E30 We should wait till PMA!
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drakosha
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look they are planing cheap e-1, thus I would not think they will go with inferior line ....
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digital_ray_of_light
Veteran Member
While not a direct replacement, it looks like Olympus may be replacing most of the market segments that would/could have been covered by a potential E-30 by about four cameras:
But on the other hand, we cannot be 100% certain. ImagingResource is reporting that there is an avalanche of 8mp prosumers coming out in the next 6 months. But will Olympus release one of those and if so, would it be an E-30 or an upgrade of the C50X0 series with a 2/3" chip?
- E-1
- future mid-range version of E-1 (according to PopPhoto.Japan report)
- future amateur version of E-1 (according to PopPhoto.Japan report)
- bumping up the C50X0 top of the line (C-5060), with recent feature additions, such as 27mm wide angle, 4X zoom, powerful battery, new add-on lens and other accessories such as a grip.
But on the other hand, we cannot be 100% certain. ImagingResource is reporting that there is an avalanche of 8mp prosumers coming out in the next 6 months. But will Olympus release one of those and if so, would it be an E-30 or an upgrade of the C50X0 series with a 2/3" chip?
Joseph S Wisniewski
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I always enjoy it when people throw around absolute terms, like "inferior".
E-10/E-20 class cameras are "different" from the E-1 (or the new low cost E-1 derivative), not necessarily "superior" or "inferior". Do you think you're going to get a 4:1 zoom f2.0-2.8 lens for the E system? If so, how much will it weigh, relative to an E-20?
Let alone the lighter, more compact competition to the E-20, like the Minolta A-1 or the Fuji S7000.
Different cameras, different users. Oly has watched a class of cameras that they helped create slip right out of their hands.
The E-1 no more replaces the E-10/E-20 market segment, than it does the Stylus 400 segment.
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roleo
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What would a mid-range or amateur version of E-1 look like? Is it another camera, or the same camera with less assecoires?
Roleo
Roleo
Joseph S Wisniewski
Forum Pro
Wild guess, they would have to strip out the most expensive features:
No weather seals
Plastic shell, instead of metal
No ultrasonic sensor cleaner
Pentamirror instead of glass pentaprism
No white balance sensor
No PC terminal
But they'll probably add a built in flash.
I doubt Oly has two different shutters, but they probably could software limit the top speed of the E-1 shutter.
And I'd doubt they'd drop the frames/sec any. At 3 fps on a 5mp sensor, the E-1 makes about the same 15mp/sec demands on it's electronics as the 300D does (6mp at 2.5fps).
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Joseph S Wisniewski
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But that leaves the big question: what about the lenses?
Have a look at the Oly E system lens roadmap.
http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/cpg_files/zuiko_sched0405.pdf
I'm betting that the lenses that are in production right now (4:1 variable aperture zooms) are the low cost lenses. The roadmap shows tightly spaced 3:1 and 2:1 zooms for 2004. Those look like the actual "professional" lenses.
So you need the $500 14-54 in addition to the $1000 body.
There is a lens on the map for 2005 that is just labled "zoom" which appears to be wider ratio and might just be the "kit lens" for the low cost E body.
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John Buntz
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I am guesing the 2005 lenses are pro level. Fixed aperture and fast. The 2004 3x telephotos are the inexpensive lenses. They equate to the 28-80 and 80-200 common to 35mm.
But this is just a guess...
Canon S110 Oly E-10 Vivitar 283 Nikon FE(gathering dust)
But this is just a guess...
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I agree (except for "fixed aperture"), especially when one adds the Popular Photography report that Olympus has talked about the availability of less expensive lenses to match those less expensive bodies, possibly made for them by someone else. Also because I do not think that Olympus (or any camera maker) is so stupid at to release entry level bodies without correspondingly priced lenses!
Actually, it would be fun to see a 14-100 "all-in-one" 4/3 system zoom, and see how an entry level 4/3 body with that matches up against the 2/3" cameras with their comparable 7-50mm zooms.
P. S the 2004 "fast telephoto" has me wondering; it looks like a 300mm FOV equiv., so when we know its maximum aperture (f/2? f/1.4??) a lot of the debate about the maximum possible aperture in 4/3 format could be settled.
Rober_in_LA
Member
Joe:
Not too sure put from a pratical point of view I'm sure in time they will offer cheaper lens. The biggest thing is that the body will 55% cheaper then the E-1. Of course that is based on the current MSRP. Like anything new, you have to give it time.
Not too sure put from a pratical point of view I'm sure in time they will offer cheaper lens. The biggest thing is that the body will 55% cheaper then the E-1. Of course that is based on the current MSRP. Like anything new, you have to give it time.
Joseph S Wisniewski
Forum Pro
The only problem is that an 80-200 is a commpn focal length for pro lenses. Typically, pro lenses run from 2:1 to just under 3:1.
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R Stacy
Senior Member
Its all speculation (except perhaps for Joe's Harley) until we get the goods. But if Oly reads any of this -- a superb carry all / compact / backup manual zoom high quality prosumer is sorely lacking from any of the OEMs.
Nice little niche if you ask me to trounce the 5700 / A1 / G5 line ups.
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Nice little niche if you ask me to trounce the 5700 / A1 / G5 line ups.
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Rober_in_LA
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R Stacy:
I hate to tell you this again but the man I spoke with who I told you about that works for Oly in Japan is a high level exec who has been with them for nearly 30 years. I'm telling you that as far as the E series goes they will not be making a "fixed lens" SLR type camera. Either buy/keep your E20 or E10 but do yourself the favor and don't hold out for something that isn't going to happen.
Sorry.
I hate to tell you this again but the man I spoke with who I told you about that works for Oly in Japan is a high level exec who has been with them for nearly 30 years. I'm telling you that as far as the E series goes they will not be making a "fixed lens" SLR type camera. Either buy/keep your E20 or E10 but do yourself the favor and don't hold out for something that isn't going to happen.
Sorry.
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