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It was suppose there was some troubles on this camera, Sony has delayed almost 2 months to put this camera on maket... And don´t resolved the main problems , the purple fringing (Carl Zeiss, what a shame!!!) and the image quality with a lot of noises even low ISO´s...

Yes, if we wanna get better pictures, we must change to Canon, spending almost 3 times (with standard accessories) than F828 price...

SONY: you´ve disappointed us!!! I´ve using the F-series since F505V, and since F707 (the best image quality, focus) , you don´t deliver a Great image as we are expecting. Even F717 is noisier than 707... What´s going on SONY? My next step it will be a CANON DSLR!!!! Good bye SONY, I´ve got a lot of disappointments with you, my luck is that I didn´t make any pre-order in this F828, I learned it when I sold my 707 to buy 717... It´s a big mistake!!! And I hope, it will be last!!!

ps. My english is too bad, but I need to put all my feelings out at this time!!!
 
There is no way to decrease purple fringing when a lens has been already designed and is in production. This is not something that can be done with a simple firmware update.
Colour reproduction, however, is an entirely different pair of shoes.
 
Hirae said:
It was suppose there was some troubles on this camera, Sony has
delayed almost 2 months to put this camera on maket... And don´t
resolved the main problems , the purple fringing (Carl Zeiss, what
a shame!!!) and the image quality with a lot of noises even low
ISO´s...
Yes, if we wanna get better pictures, we must change to Canon,
spending almost 3 times (with standard accessories) than F828
price...
SONY: you´ve disappointed us!!! I´ve using the F-series since
F505V, and since F707 (the best image quality, focus) , you don´t
deliver a Great image as we are expecting. Even F717 is noisier
than 707... What´s going on SONY? My next step it will be a CANON
DSLR!!!! Good bye SONY, I´ve got a lot of disappointments with you,
my luck is that I didn´t make any pre-order in this F828, I learned
it when I sold my 707 to buy 717... It´s a big mistake!!! And I
hope, it will be last!!!

ps. My english is too bad, but I need to put all my feelings out at
this time!!!
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I think most of the problem is that Sony was trying to push the evelope too much with that 8 megapixel sensor size, the sample plcs with the 828 looked pretty good at 5 megapix, but maketing took over. I'd rather see these camera companies make lower noise sensors (especially at higher ISO's), rather than constantly worry about the memgapixel race. CA and high levels of noise like the 828 I would expect from cameras 2 years ago, but the 828 doesn't impress me all that much, rather have a dSLR.
--
Olympus 3040
 
Eric said:
Hirae said:
It was suppose there was some troubles on this camera, Sony has
delayed almost 2 months to put this camera on maket... And don´t
resolved the main problems , the purple fringing (Carl Zeiss, what
a shame!!!) and the image quality with a lot of noises even low
ISO´s...
Yes, if we wanna get better pictures, we must change to Canon,
spending almost 3 times (with standard accessories) than F828
price...
SONY: you´ve disappointed us!!! I´ve using the F-series since
F505V, and since F707 (the best image quality, focus) , you don´t
deliver a Great image as we are expecting. Even F717 is noisier
than 707... What´s going on SONY? My next step it will be a CANON
DSLR!!!! Good bye SONY, I´ve got a lot of disappointments with you,
my luck is that I didn´t make any pre-order in this F828, I learned
it when I sold my 707 to buy 717... It´s a big mistake!!! And I
hope, it will be last!!!

ps. My english is too bad, but I need to put all my feelings out at
this time!!!
Click to expand...
I think most of the problem is that Sony was trying to push the
evelope too much with that 8 megapixel sensor size, the sample plcs
with the 828 looked pretty good at 5 megapix, but maketing took
over. I'd rather see these camera companies make lower noise
sensors (especially at higher ISO's), rather than constantly worry
about the memgapixel race. CA and high levels of noise like the
828 I would expect from cameras 2 years ago, but the 828 doesn't
impress me all that much, rather have a dSLR.
--
Olympus 3040
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Now that the sensor exists, can or will someone design a lens to match it? One with a more conservative zoom range and would eliminate the Purple fringing would be interesting.
--
Bob Ross
 
Hirae said:
It was suppose there was some troubles on this camera, Sony has
delayed almost 2 months to put this camera on maket... And don´t
resolved the main problems , the purple fringing (Carl Zeiss, what
a shame!!!) and the image quality with a lot of noises even low
ISO´s...
Yes, if we wanna get better pictures, we must change to Canon,
spending almost 3 times (with standard accessories) than F828
price...
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If you buy the 300D with kit lens and the 28-135IS you have covered the same range as the Sony, and you haven't spent anything remotely like 3 times the cost.
virgo204168 said:
SONY: you´ve disappointed us!!! I´ve using the F-series since
F505V, and since F707 (the best image quality, focus) , you don´t
deliver a Great image as we are expecting. Even F717 is noisier
than 707... What´s going on SONY? My next step it will be a CANON
DSLR!!!! Good bye SONY, I´ve got a lot of disappointments with you,
my luck is that I didn´t make any pre-order in this F828, I learned
it when I sold my 707 to buy 717... It´s a big mistake!!! And I
hope, it will be last!!!

ps. My english is too bad, but I need to put all my feelings out at
this time!!!
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Regards,
DaveMart
Please see profile for equipment
 
Member said:
Member said:
Yes, if we wanna get better pictures, we must change to Canon,
spending almost 3 times (with standard accessories) than F828
price...
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If you buy the 300D with kit lens and the 28-135IS you have covered
the same range as the Sony, and you haven't spent anything remotely
like 3 times the cost.
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You're right as two right hands. ;-)

300D + some normal lenses (not those that included in kit).

And you get a normal DSLR with a 10D matrix (!!!) and an ability to change lenses. For the average end user there's no difference between 300D and this F828 in "somewhat clever" options.

1500 dollars to the full matrix without a significant noise up to ISO800 or to the tiny noisy matrix with fixed shamed lenses...

I'd prefer 300D.
 
There are limits to what Sony can provide in the phtography field. Yes, they build the CCDs used in most prosumer digicams (and some DSLRs) but the CCD is part of the story. You can't (and should not) expect Sony to compete with Canon or Nikon, it is thier primary BUSINESS.

The problem is that with the introduction of Canon 300D (and soon Nikon D70) the market of highend prosumer will shrink. In 2004 no manufacturer will even think of intrudcing a prosumer csmera @ price higher than 600-700. That's not good enough for Sony and I guess this is what cause them to take this bold step (F828)

The question is, will it be feasable for Sony to work on F858 or drop the F series and keep working in the compact cams? (even in this sector, Canon is thratning Sony)....
Hirae said:
It was suppose there was some troubles on this camera, Sony has
delayed almost 2 months to put this camera on maket... And don´t
resolved the main problems , the purple fringing (Carl Zeiss, what
a shame!!!) and the image quality with a lot of noises even low
ISO´s...
Yes, if we wanna get better pictures, we must change to Canon,
spending almost 3 times (with standard accessories) than F828
price...
SONY: you´ve disappointed us!!! I´ve using the F-series since
F505V, and since F707 (the best image quality, focus) , you don´t
deliver a Great image as we are expecting. Even F717 is noisier
than 707... What´s going on SONY? My next step it will be a CANON
DSLR!!!! Good bye SONY, I´ve got a lot of disappointments with you,
my luck is that I didn´t make any pre-order in this F828, I learned
it when I sold my 707 to buy 717... It´s a big mistake!!! And I
hope, it will be last!!!

ps. My english is too bad, but I need to put all my feelings out at
this time!!!
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