Photoshop CS Adds Banknote Image Detection, Blocking?

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Slashdot is reporting that people on the Adobe forum are saying the PS CS recognizes images that contain currency (scans of money) and will refuse to open them. The Adobe forum seems to be Slashdotted, so I haven't been there this morning to read the posts there.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/08/0111228

I don't have a scanner, so I haven't been able to verify this. Has anybody here tried this?

Wayne Larmon
 
No truth in that. I scanned one of the new Twenty dollar bills just to magnify it and look at print quality (which is terrible by the way). It scanned (Twain Source) and opened fine.

It is no longer on my hard drive (for the Secret Service' info) but I was stunned by the really poor print quality. You would think that they would be top notch to make it harder to copy.
BobT
Slashdot is reporting that people on the Adobe forum are saying the
PS CS recognizes images that contain currency (scans of money) and
will refuse to open them. The Adobe forum seems to be
Slashdotted, so I haven't been there this morning to read the posts
there.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/08/0111228

I don't have a scanner, so I haven't been able to verify this. Has
anybody here tried this?

Wayne Larmon
 
I too read about this in another forum and tried it, absolutely no problem scanning a $20 and a $100 and then opening in PS CS.
 
No truth in that.
I love when people speak with such conviction but are totally wrong..

What follows is the official response from ADOBE as related by Dan Margulis:

"Folks,

The following was posted at Adobeforums this evening by Kevin Connor, a
prominent member of the Photoshop team, in response to the concerns
expressed over the anticounterfeiting technology incorporated in Photoshop
CS.

Dan Margulis


As someone at Adobe who was involved in the decision to include counterfeit
deterrence in Photoshop CS, let me finally provide you with a response to all
of these concerns and questions. Sorry for the delay!:

Photoshop CS does indeed include a counterfeit deterrence system (CDS) to
prevent the illegal duplication of banknotes. The CDS was created by a
consortium of central banks from around the world. We, along with other
hardware and software manufacturers, have included CDS in our products at
their request to address the threat posed by the use of digital technologies in
the counterfeiting of banknotes. There are other software products from other
companies that already use this same technology. There are also hardware
products that use the same or similar technology. For example, most color
copiers sold today will not allow you to copy currency.

As digital imaging technology advances, becoming more broadly available
and user friendly, the old barriers to currency reproduction are becoming less
effective. The unscrupulous are taking advantage of the functionality that is
being provided to the vast majority of honest users for the purposes of
counterfeiting currency. In the US and around the world, counterfeiting
through digital means is increasing exponentially, and retailers and the
general public--including our own customers--are at risk.

Counterfeit currency is essentially a hot potato. Whoever holds it last, loses.
The person who loses isn't necessarily the counterfeiter. There's no
government body in place to "reimburse" people who, through no fault of their
own, get paid with currency that turns out to be counterfeit. In our
implementation of CDS, we've worked very hard to balance the need to
protect these unsuspecting victims of counterfeiting along with the need to
continue to provide a product that efficiently does what honest customers
need it to do.

There appear to be several major concerns and objections repeated
throughout this message thread, so I'll try to address each one individually:

1. Performance: CDS does not cause any noticeable slowdown in Photoshop
performance. During most operations performed in Photoshop, CDS is not

used at all. When it is used, the performance impact often is just a fraction of a
second.

2. Legal use of notes: It is true that the current implementation of CDS will
prevent you from scanning in your own banknotes even if your usage intent is
entirely within legal boundaries. Regulations for using banknote images vary

by country. It is the responsibility of the central bank in each country to provide
images that can be used within the legal guidelines of that country. In other
words, if you want to legally reproduce images of the new $20US bills on a
Web site or in a marketing brochure, you can contact the U.S. Bureau of
Engraving and Printing for legal images that can be opened and manipulated
in Photoshop CS. (You can visit them at http://www.moneyfactory.com .) Similar
solutions should be available in other countries. If you find that your central
bank is not providing adequate support to permit legal uses of their banknote
images, then you should let them know.

3. Adobe's intentions: Please be assured that this implementation of CDS is
not a step down the road towards Adobe becoming "Big Brother." We know
that one of the reasons people love Photoshop is because it's an incredibly
flexible tool that can be used for so many different things. That's also one of
the reasons we at Adobe enjoy working on new versions. Finding ways to
prevent you from doing things in Photoshop really doesn't interest us!

Moreover, the CDS is not Adobe technology, but was provided by the central
banks, who would have no reason to want to restrict anything other than bank
notes. Counterfeiting is really a special case in which we could see how our
own technology advances were making it easier to commit crimes and we
were asked to implement a solution that would have minimal impact on
honest customers. Yes, there is some impact, in that you need to contact your
central bank for images, but our hope is that it's not a huge inconvenience for
that small group of customers who do need to reproduce these images in their
graphic design work. It also provides the central banks with an opportunity to
better educate customers on exactly what is and isn't legal usage.

Of course, CDS in Photoshop CS is essentially a 1.0 implementation of a
feature, analogous to the state of the layers palette in Photoshop 3.0. We
realize that there may be room for improvement, particularly if there are corner
usage cases that weren't taken into account in our current designs. We do
want to hear about your concerns, and we definitely want to hear if there's a
specific problem that this implementation has created for you. As with any
Photoshop feature, we depend on hearing from customers so that we can
make continual improvements release after release. "
 
I too read about this in another forum and tried it, absolutely no
problem scanning a $20 and a $100 and then opening in PS CS.
Before I go further, after a short discussion with the Secret Service Public Affairs office in Washington, DC, I believe that I am safe in providing the following information.
To quote from the US Secret Service website at :

"The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations of U.S. currency provided:

1. the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than
one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item
illustrated;

2. the illustration is one-sided; and

3. all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium,
graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any
other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an
image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or
deleted or erased after their final use."

For those in other nations you may find links to your applicable regulations at Which is also where the PhotoShop CS error takes you automatically to.

If you want to test this out yourself.

I am posting a copy of a US Government currency exemplar published SPECIMEN version of the new 2004 series $20 note, and a JPEG image of the PhotoShop CS error message for TECHNOLOGY and media information purposes ONLY.. ALL and ANY INDIVIDUALS who download this image are responsible for their own actions and agree that they shall use this image ONLY for Adobe Photoshop technology demonstration purposes intended AND that they will destroy the file after it is used to demonstrate said technology. Downloading the file is at your own risk, and I accept no responsibility for your actions, use, or possession of said file or its contents.

The file is at:
http://www.krebs2003.com/adobe%20test%20image.zip

Beyond that, I can only say that when I did bring up the issue of how PhotoShop CS was dealing with the image, no-one at the Secret Service seemed surprised..

Cheers
 
What a waste of my CPU. Checking each of my documents to see if I opened an image of money? If someone would have asked me, I would have prefered a spam or popup blocker.

Paul
I too read about this in another forum and tried it, absolutely no
problem scanning a $20 and a $100 and then opening in PS CS.
Before I go further, after a short discussion with the Secret
Service Public Affairs office in Washington, DC, I believe that I
am safe in providing the following information.
To quote from the US Secret Service website at :

"The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in
Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits
color illustrations of U.S. currency provided:

1. the illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than
one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item
illustrated;

2. the illustration is one-sided; and

3. all negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium,
graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any
other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an
image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or
deleted or erased after their final use."

For those in other nations you may find links to your applicable
regulations at Which is also where the PhotoShop CS error takes
you automatically to.

If you want to test this out yourself.

I am posting a copy of a US Government currency exemplar published
SPECIMEN version of the new 2004 series $20 note, and a JPEG image
of the PhotoShop CS error message for TECHNOLOGY and media
information purposes ONLY.. ALL and ANY INDIVIDUALS who download
this image are responsible for their own actions and agree that
they shall use this image ONLY for Adobe Photoshop technology
demonstration purposes intended AND that they will destroy the file
after it is used to demonstrate said technology. Downloading the
file is at your own risk, and I accept no responsibility for your
actions, use, or possession of said file or its contents.

The file is at:
http://www.krebs2003.com/adobe%20test%20image.zip

Beyond that, I can only say that when I did bring up the issue of
how PhotoShop CS was dealing with the image, no-one at the Secret
Service seemed surprised..

Cheers
 
I too read about this in another forum and tried it, absolutely no
problem scanning a $20 and a $100 and then opening in PS CS.
i was checking out the slashdot site, and someone commented that CS lets you scan and open but will prevent you from printing. Has anyone tried this?

I have no problem with what adobe did here. I'm just curious if it works, how well it works, and how it works.
 
If I spoke with such conviction, and am so wrong, please tell me why CS will scan bills. Are you so naive that you believe everything you read. Your copy of CS will not scan bank notes?
BobT
No truth in that.
I love when people speak with such conviction but are totally wrong..

What follows is the official response from ADOBE as related by Dan
Margulis:
 
I think this is fascinating. I haven't tried to scan any money yet, nor am I particularly interested in doing so.

But I think Adobe is on a right track here. They would probably like to be totally out of the picture in counterfeiting cases.

OTOH, if someone was really interested in getting an image of a real note, why wouldn't they just plant their 5-8 mpxl digicam a foot or two over a crisp new note, make sure everything is parallel, and just take a picture? I assume PS doesn't know that a raw file is currency.

So, while this protection might deter some folks, and it will likely help Adobe legally, and it might help contain the abundance of images of currency available for distribution, I doubt it will do much against counterfeiting.

I guess the bigger concern might be something like, "well, if they can prevent me from scanning currency now, what might they think of next?"

My 2 cents.
Abbott
I can scan and print the old 20 dollar bill, but the new version
gives the error messange.
 
If you want to test this out yourself.

I am posting a copy of a US Government currency exemplar published
SPECIMEN version of the new 2004 series $20 note, and a JPEG image
of the PhotoShop CS error message for TECHNOLOGY and media
information purposes ONLY.. ALL and ANY INDIVIDUALS who download
this image are responsible for their own actions and agree that
they shall use this image ONLY for Adobe Photoshop technology
demonstration purposes intended AND that they will destroy the file
after it is used to demonstrate said technology. Downloading the
file is at your own risk, and I accept no responsibility for your
actions, use, or possession of said file or its contents.

The file is at:
http://www.krebs2003.com/adobe%20test%20image.zip

I tried it. PS CS indeed refused to open Series2004NoteFront.jpg But ImageReady CS opened it with no complaints.

Wayne Larmon
 
I tried it. PS CS indeed refused to open Series2004NoteFront.jpg
But ImageReady CS opened it with no complaints.
By golly, you're right. And not only that, you can then switch to Edit in PS. Or if I save it as a .psd after importing by scanner in ImageReady, I can then open it later just in PS. Sounds like an "oops".
 
So, while this protection might deter some folks, and it will
likely help Adobe legally, and it might help contain the abundance
of images of currency available for distribution, I doubt it will
do much against counterfeiting.
Abbott's right. A determined counterfeiter will always find a way around issues like this, by either using another piece of software or devising interesting ways to capture an image of currency.

However, it's preventative measures that Adobe is taking. And IMNSHO, they have a right to choose whether or not to implement this type of coding into their software. Just as others, GIMP and whomever else, chooses not to do.

IMO, if you're scanning in currency for artistic uses that do not involve trying to "spend" counterfeit currency, then you're more likely to do what you can to get the images you need in a legal manner.

Plus, I doubt the code it takes to check if a scan is currency or not takes more or less time than other processes that Photoshop is also doing at the same time.
 
No truth in that.
I love when people speak with such conviction but are totally wrong..

What follows is the official response from ADOBE as related by Dan
Margulis:
Through testing, I found that PSCS on my computer will scan older bills with no problem. The newest currency design is different. My test showed that I could scan the newer bills at 50% size but not at 100% or larger.
 
But I think Adobe is on a right track here. They would probably
like to be totally out of the picture in counterfeiting cases.

OTOH, if someone was really interested in getting an image of a
real note, why wouldn't they just plant their 5-8 mpxl digicam a
foot or two over a crisp new note, make sure everything is
parallel, and just take a picture? I assume PS doesn't know that a
raw file is currency.

So, while this protection might deter some folks, and it will
likely help Adobe legally, and it might help contain the abundance
of images of currency available for distribution, I doubt it will
do much against counterfeiting.

I guess the bigger concern might be something like, "well, if they
can prevent me from scanning currency now, what might they think of
next?"

My 2 cents.
Abbott
I can scan and print the old 20 dollar bill, but the new version
gives the error messange.
If you click on the link in the error message, you will be taken to the US Treasury website where you are told that it is not illegal to scan US currency. At this website you are told the restrictions and requirements for outputting the images legally.

Supposedly, if you require images of US currency for legitimate reproduction purposes, one can get the digital files directly from the US Treasury.
 
I just scanned the new 20 dollar bill and an older one. The new one came into PS OK but I received an error message when I tried to scan the new one in. I used Vuescan to do the scan and it scanned all right in Vuescan but it wasn't admitted in PSCS.
Slashdot is reporting that people on the Adobe forum are saying the
PS CS recognizes images that contain currency (scans of money) and
will refuse to open them. The Adobe forum seems to be
Slashdotted, so I haven't been there this morning to read the posts
there.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/08/0111228

I don't have a scanner, so I haven't been able to verify this. Has
anybody here tried this?

Wayne Larmon
 
Do they really think Photoshop is the only image editor out there? Counterfeiters can now use GIMP, or simply hire a hacker to disable this technology in PS CS. It is usually one byte deal to disable anything in the program.
 

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