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alonewolf85 said:
I hear ya, i took a couple hundred, it makes me wonder if some of
the cams are better than others, you never know, but i dont want to
deal with it, ill shoot with my 717 untill sony gets it down pat,
otherwise ill look into somthing else, thanks for your comment, and
yes the flu is making me miserable lol
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Since you have the 717, I think it's a no brainer for you.

I just did a test in my kitchen. The purple fringing shows up in the flash reflection when I aim the flash directly onto a reflective surface. It doesn't look as bad as yours does but I think that's because you are using a stronger flash. I used the built-in flash. So I doubt that any cameras are any better than others.

As I mentioned to you before, I usually do not aim the flash in a way where the reflection would show in my shots, so for my use and purposes, this is not a show-stopper. For other users though it could be.

Olga
 
I did use the built in flash gun on the pic i posted, the pics with the external flash were not as bad but still there,
Olga Johnson said:
alonewolf85 said:
I hear ya, i took a couple hundred, it makes me wonder if some of
the cams are better than others, you never know, but i dont want to
deal with it, ill shoot with my 717 untill sony gets it down pat,
otherwise ill look into somthing else, thanks for your comment, and
yes the flu is making me miserable lol
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Since you have the 717, I think it's a no brainer for you.

I just did a test in my kitchen. The purple fringing shows up in
the flash reflection when I aim the flash directly onto a
reflective surface. It doesn't look as bad as yours does but I
think that's because you are using a stronger flash. I used the
built-in flash. So I doubt that any cameras are any better than
others.

As I mentioned to you before, I usually do not aim the flash in a
way where the reflection would show in my shots, so for my use and
purposes, this is not a show-stopper. For other users though it
could be.

Olga
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My 717 has no purple, and i have takin the exact same pic with it
Olga Johnson said:
alonewolf85 said:
I hear ya, i took a couple hundred, it makes me wonder if some of
the cams are better than others, you never know, but i dont want to
deal with it, ill shoot with my 717 untill sony gets it down pat,
otherwise ill look into somthing else, thanks for your comment, and
yes the flu is making me miserable lol
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Since you have the 717, I think it's a no brainer for you.

I just did a test in my kitchen. The purple fringing shows up in
the flash reflection when I aim the flash directly onto a
reflective surface. It doesn't look as bad as yours does but I
think that's because you are using a stronger flash. I used the
built-in flash. So I doubt that any cameras are any better than
others.

As I mentioned to you before, I usually do not aim the flash in a
way where the reflection would show in my shots, so for my use and
purposes, this is not a show-stopper. For other users though it
could be.

Olga
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I e-mailed a few reviewers such as Jeff on dcresource.com who has already recieved his production camera to review asking about these problems. He probably won't respond but all this purple fringing is driving me crazy. I've been waiting so long for this cam.

Although is evident as you all say, I have not noticed any purple in the images that I've viewed. However, before you all pounce on me or something, it just happened that I was using another computer and easily noticed other problems I haven't noticed before on my screen. If you're following me, I first saw them on an LCD and then a regular CRT monitor. I think, but correct me if I'm wrong, that you really shouldn't judge pictures on the computer because everyone might see something different? I don't know.
 
I can't wait till Phil gets hold of a production camera and sees for himself all these problems. That stove shot was horrible and, although taken under sever conditions in lighting, would prevent me from buying the cam. It appears to happen in lighting and reflections most of the time. The camera looks good and probably picks up a lot of detail from what I've seen, but what about all that ca!?!
 
The purple problem you're talking about, are you referring to the purple in the highlights (reflection of light in the glassware?) on the glass things on top of the cabinets?

George
 
Personally, I think that here and everywhere else, people are too quick to give others a hard time for giving their opinion.

If someone hates the camera, they should have a right to say it and say it anyway they want within the guidelines of this forum.

The fact that you or someone else might LOVE the 828, maybe these people are embarrased to admit that it sucks, but that's irrelevant. You have one opinion and I have another. That's just the way it is.

I for one, am glad that these people are complaining about the camera if they DON"T like it. This gives me an option to hear their side as this WILL help me decide on whether to buy it or not. If not for them, I would probably buy a product that may just be inferior to the 707 that I have and that's working great for me.

Other than the picture of the bat/kitty, I haven't seen anything that's better than my 707.

Mind you, I was expecting better quality but that is NOT an issue for me. I was buying the camera for the features but I will NOT buy a camera that takes WORSE pictures than my 707.

It just makes NO sense to buy and support a camera that Sony can't get right before releasing it.

If NO ONE bought it, they would have it fixed in two months. One to figure out that NO ONE is buying it (and they probably READ this forum) and the second month to fix it as I'm sure they can. Hel*, if nothing else, just put another sensor in it. I'm still only buying it for the FEATURES. My 707 quality is just fine for me.

George
 
I really have no problem with post processing as I have to do that with just about any picture anyway, but most of retouching is just doing the levels and a bit of contrast adding or something.

I do not know how to fix the purple problem nor do I have time to go in and fix it, one spot at the time.

I do not know what CA looks like or how to fix it so to me, that is NOT acceptable. A little fiddling with the levels is NOT a problem if that's how simple it is but it seems to me that it is NOT that simple.

I may be wrong of course.

George
 
Dear Alonewolf85,

May I please have your email.

If you prefer to keep that disclosed, then could you please shoot me an email at [email protected].

I have a few things to speak with you about.

Thanks,

B.
alonewolf85 said:
Richard said:
Alrighty, what choices do you have - Call were you bought it from
for a return and ask for your money back or do you ask for a
replacement - call Sony and get the ball rolling with them - so
many decisions.

This was shot if full auto right?

Richard_
Andy Williams said:
i lost the vote for president because i entered the election on
november 1st.
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It shouldn't be there in the first place. It's like Microsoft releasing software with KNOWN bugs! Unfortunately, the masses still buy it so they can keep doing it. We all get ripped off by our insurance companies and still we give them our business.

I once got a screwdriver set for christmas, Craftsman.

Well, I used a thick one once to use as a prybar (kind of) to remove a small nail. I was lyying down with my arm fully extended to be able to reach it and I had very little strength in that position.

Well, this screwdriver bent like rubber.

I told people about it and they all said, you have lifetime warranty, get another one.

Sure, I could do that but that doesn't help if something happens when you use it and you don't have a tool to complete the job.

I'm sure I'll get all kinds of flame saying that it's NOT a prybar. I know that but my point is that i DO have screwdrivers that would have held up to that and my point is also, that although you MIGHT be able to fix the purple or whatever on the 828, it shouldn't be there in the first place and again, if everyone refused to buy it and maybe even sending them a link to their post saying they don't want it, Sony would fix it in a heartbeat AND it would benefit EVERYONE, even those willing to go through a lot of post processing to get the stuff out.

Just my opinion.

George
 
but it really isn't our job to fix it, is it?

We all know that for most part, Sony's service sucks but people keep putting up with for two reasons, they like the cameras and NO ONE compains enough for Sony to have to address their poor service.

Now, I want this camera as much as everyone because I really, really want and I think, need the new features but in all honesty (and I'm not bashing the camera) I do not see an improvement over the quality from my 707 but I do however see poorer quality in many or most pictures. I could be wrong however and I'm very eager to read Phil's review.

George
 
You don't think that Phil's scripts tone the language down enough?

What's left to express a stronger feeling?

Words like exhasperated or however it's spellt?

It's very simple as I see it. You don't like the mans posts, don't read them.

I don't like something, I just ignore it but the bottom line is, this IS a forum and by definition, you should have the right to speak your mind.

I for one am grateful because I really, really want this camera to work out and the more people that complain, the more (hopefully) Sony will listen and might fix it.

I do NOT want a camera where I have to spend hours of post processing. Hel*, I don't even want to do the levels but as it stands, I have to but I really don't want to do much more beyond that. Not for a straight shot.

Granted, if it's something fancy, more artsy or something you should spend time on, no problem but not for a staright shot.

George
 
I really hope to see these images and I hope that I can ask you and others for advice because like I said before, I really, really want this camera to work out as it has just about every feature I've wanted in my 707/717.

George
 
Greg-hi..

Been in and out of town and trying to keep up with the posts.

Are you really liking your 828? As you know I have the A1, 5700 and V1.

I enjoy them all. I was offered the 828 for the holidays--which could be appealing if I will get sharper, higher resolution than my current 5 Mps .

I didn't think of a 2 lb cam as my carry everywhere camera--and the AS of my A! has me spoiled.

Would you recommend the 828 with this information in mind--and how much do you need a tripod for macros, higher resolution, or zoom?

As you know, I am a enthusiast, not a pro like some folks.

Also, have a work assignment in Oahu for a month and thinking of a digital wallet--any opinions?

Thanks and have fun. Tanglefoot is loving his 300D--but I think I like an all in one--unless thant new Nikon or the Pentax prove to be outstanding.
I have no lenses I need to use.

Happy Holidays!
Linda
Greg Gebhardt said:
Moti said:
Therefore, simpy I do not believe in your story because otherwise,
you would have had posted some results. But you didn'nt because you
probaby don't have any.

And if your story is true after all, then remember, there are no
terrible cameras at this proce range. There are onlt terrible
photographers and you are probably one of them.
alonewolf85 said:
just got my 828 and im sending it back tommorrow, this cam is terrible
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From what I have seen of the 60 or so 828 images I have taken, the
images exceed my 717 and V1 images in detail and quality. In the
next few weeks of learning, I expect them to get even better.

Greg Gebhardt in
Jacksonville, Florida
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it is sick but you will always find people to complain when you or anyone post anything that is not positive about a camera.. sometimes I think that some people consider their camera to be some sort of Gods or something close to it. I get a LOT of personal attacks when I point out the flaws in my 300d. and I do mean a LOT of it!

People just cannot stand that I say anything negative about it. well..that's their problems isn't? :)))
alonewolf85 said:
Greg Gebhardt said:
alonewolf85 said:
David_S85 said:
Did you take any outdoor pics?

PF under what conditions?

Flash only or with ambient light?

Ambient light onlt PF?

Am I asking too many questions?
  • David
alonewolf85 said:
just got my 828 and im sending it back tommorrow, this cam is terrible
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We can only hope that your efforts will be now spent doing
something else.

Greg Gebhardt in
Jacksonville, Florida
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the problem is that the CA is a hardware problem, not a software problem. so the only way to correct it is to replace the lens.
Georgi said:
It shouldn't be there in the first place. It's like Microsoft
releasing software with KNOWN bugs! Unfortunately, the masses still
buy it so they can keep doing it. We all get ripped off by our
insurance companies and still we give them our business.

I once got a screwdriver set for christmas, Craftsman.

Well, I used a thick one once to use as a prybar (kind of) to
remove a small nail. I was lyying down with my arm fully extended
to be able to reach it and I had very little strength in that
position.

Well, this screwdriver bent like rubber.

I told people about it and they all said, you have lifetime
warranty, get another one.

Sure, I could do that but that doesn't help if something happens
when you use it and you don't have a tool to complete the job.

I'm sure I'll get all kinds of flame saying that it's NOT a prybar.
I know that but my point is that i DO have screwdrivers that would
have held up to that and my point is also, that although you MIGHT
be able to fix the purple or whatever on the 828, it shouldn't be
there in the first place and again, if everyone refused to buy it
and maybe even sending them a link to their post saying they don't
want it, Sony would fix it in a heartbeat AND it would benefit
EVERYONE, even those willing to go through a lot of post processing
to get the stuff out.

Just my opinion.

George
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I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
 
it greatly depend on your aperture. The Ca will be more of a problem with a wide open lens and at higher mm with shiny surfaces.

In some cases you will not see any and in some extreme cases like with backligted trees under an overcast sky, you will see a lot of it.

If you shoot at F8 you will have much less CA than if you shoot at F2.0
sandy b said:
alonewolf85 said:
David_S85 said:
Did you take any outdoor pics?

PF under what conditions?

Flash only or with ambient light?

Ambient light onlt PF?

Am I asking too many questions?
  • David
alonewolf85 said:
just got my 828 and im sending it back tommorrow, this cam is terrible
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I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918
 
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