Sales of 4x6 images

Was this message to me? It sounds like your pricing is about the same as mine. I was charging $2.50 for 4x6's, then stop selling them and now have added them back at $3.00 (for new games shot, not previous games). You are right about adding more other methods for payment. I will work on adding that over the next few weeks.

Atlanta-Mike
I think your prices are way low. We sell 4x6s (500,000 per year)
to our regular clients for $2.00 - $2.50. Once a year clients pay
$3.00. In sports/action your labor costs are much higher since
you're selling a much lower percentage of the shots you take.

The best way for you to increase your sales would probably be to
accept more methods of payment. I'd really have to want a picture
to bother with openning a paypal acount.

Here's our site:

http://www.pic-man.com/thepictureman/

You can browse the graduations or use the password 'owl' to browse
the Greeks.

Joe
 
Wow!! That is something that they admitted it to you. Did they
not see anything wrong with making the copies?

Atlanta-Mike
... they are not doing anything they think is wrong, my customer said she never heard of it before. I did not even have a copyright sticker on the print, it’s strictly not necessary but the copy shop asked anyway, don’t know if it was a routine question or not.

This is the problem, they believe they can do anything they like once they pay for it, guess it answers the questions about software duplication and sharing copies around and I don’t mean real pirates, just typical people who don’t see anything wrong with it.
 
3 - 4x6 = 2 - 5X7 or 1 - 8X10

People seem to like it
Atlanta-Mike
I shoot sports and offer prints of various sizes for sale on my web
site. However, I don't offer the 4x6 size as an individual item
but only as part of a package. My reason is that even though the %
return is pretty good on a 4x6, the actual money received is pretty
small. Therefore the smallest size in individual print I offer is
5x7.

I just had a parent e-mail and say he wanted to by 20-30+ 4x6's and
wondered if there is some way he got do this. I was offering 4x6
prints for $2.50/each and this is what I will charge him since I
don't want to turn down that large an order. But I was wondering
what other people do. Do you offer this size? If you don't would
ever make an exception?

I am now thinking I should revisit my decision not to offer 4x6 and
maybe offer them at a price of $3.00 vs the $5.00 I charge for the
5x7 size. That way I may get some sales I would not have
otherwise, while others may see the 5x7 as the better deal and then
I get the upsell. My percentage profit on a 4x6 maybe better than
the 5x7, but the actual dollar profit on the 5x7 is higher.

Atlanta-Mike
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'Don't hope your pictures will 'turn out' ... make them good to
begin with'. Oft said by my late father.
http://www.ahomls.com/gallery.htm
 
Mike,

By all means charge what you deam proper. I don't have a problem charging what I charge for my prints. I have them printed for around 50cents. But the printing is not the only consideration on the price of my prints. I spend time on each image in Photoshop. In the days when I used film I would expose the image and send it to my lab which would do all the processing. Now I do all the processing on my Mac but color correcting, Adjusting exposure, sharpening, Retouching, and 'correcting" the imaging. There has been much discussion on several of the pro forums I frequent as to how much correcting should be done on the proofs our clients see. I feel, that since I generally do have the time since I am retired now, that if I can do a fix on an image before my customer sees it I will. Assuming it just takes a reasonalbe amount of time.

I am glad that you can service a segment of the community of which you live. I am sure your 'customers' appreciate the work you do for them. Good luck

By the way, do you furnish proofs or a proof mag or proof contact sheet for your parents to choose from. Also do you offer packages, package sets likd a "pik-a-pak"s which have a sheet contain several sizes on the sheets?

dave
At this point, however, there are no local pros that are trying to
shot the games I have been doing. Even with 4,000+ kids playing
soccer in our league, there have been NO pros shooting the games
for the past 3 years, at least. The two high schools I am shooting
for also have had no pros coming to there games.

IMO, you should take into account your skill level when determining
your pricing. I don't feel my skill is to the point where I should
be charging the same as a pro. I did however, sell over 400 photos
this past season and while that may be nothing for a pro, it was
something for me. As my skill level increases and I get more
request to photograph sporting events (alreadying happening), I
will be increasing my pricing. Right now I am in training and
having lots of fun.

Atlanta-Mike
Also, do you do any PS work on the prints other then color correct?

dave
No I did not get paid for the shoot. Do you really think they very
low? I knew I was a little low, but not a lot.
Mike,
Yes, very low.
$5-$6 should be norm. It also depends on the quality of work.
I, also, do sports. My basic charge is 1-5x7 Team, 1-3x5
individual, 1 Memory mate for $10. My 5x7's are $7.
My portrait prices are a little bit more.
I, usually get $20/8x10. That's actually low.
I base my other prices on that $20 sheet. 3-4x6's, 4-4x5's etc. I
would divide that into $20 to get my price.
I also sell packages for portraits and weddings which gives them a
much better deal than buying seperate photos.
It works quite well.
Regards,
Don
 
I do a little processing of the proofs shown on the internet, including minor exposure corrections, white balance if necessary and of course resizing and sharping. At the proof point I do not crop the image, but do crop before printing.

Online proofs are the only proofs I do since this is a hobby rather than a full fledge business. I do offer fixed packages but your idea of "pik-a-pac" is a good idea. I am always working on my web page and will have to see if this is something I can add to the web site.

Atlanta-Mike
By all means charge what you deam proper. I don't have a problem
charging what I charge for my prints. I have them printed for
around 50cents. But the printing is not the only consideration on
the price of my prints. I spend time on each image in Photoshop. In
the days when I used film I would expose the image and send it to
my lab which would do all the processing. Now I do all the
processing on my Mac but color correcting, Adjusting exposure,
sharpening, Retouching, and 'correcting" the imaging. There has
been much discussion on several of the pro forums I frequent as to
how much correcting should be done on the proofs our clients see. I
feel, that since I generally do have the time since I am retired
now, that if I can do a fix on an image before my customer sees it
I will. Assuming it just takes a reasonalbe amount of time.

I am glad that you can service a segment of the community of which
you live. I am sure your 'customers' appreciate the work you do for
them. Good luck

By the way, do you furnish proofs or a proof mag or proof contact
sheet for your parents to choose from. Also do you offer packages,
package sets likd a "pik-a-pak"s which have a sheet contain several
sizes on the sheets?

dave
At this point, however, there are no local pros that are trying to
shot the games I have been doing. Even with 4,000+ kids playing
soccer in our league, there have been NO pros shooting the games
for the past 3 years, at least. The two high schools I am shooting
for also have had no pros coming to there games.

IMO, you should take into account your skill level when determining
your pricing. I don't feel my skill is to the point where I should
be charging the same as a pro. I did however, sell over 400 photos
this past season and while that may be nothing for a pro, it was
something for me. As my skill level increases and I get more
request to photograph sporting events (alreadying happening), I
will be increasing my pricing. Right now I am in training and
having lots of fun.

Atlanta-Mike
Also, do you do any PS work on the prints other then color correct?

dave
No I did not get paid for the shoot. Do you really think they very
low? I knew I was a little low, but not a lot.
Mike,
Yes, very low.
$5-$6 should be norm. It also depends on the quality of work.
I, also, do sports. My basic charge is 1-5x7 Team, 1-3x5
individual, 1 Memory mate for $10. My 5x7's are $7.
My portrait prices are a little bit more.
I, usually get $20/8x10. That's actually low.
I base my other prices on that $20 sheet. 3-4x6's, 4-4x5's etc. I
would divide that into $20 to get my price.
I also sell packages for portraits and weddings which gives them a
much better deal than buying seperate photos.
It works quite well.
Regards,
Don
 
Most processors in UK sell more 4x6 albums than any other size.

One Pro I know charges $30 and when I said surely people don't buy at that price she said NO i don't want to mess around with 4x6!!
 

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