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I've seen A80s labeled "made in Japan" and "made in China".. is there any difference?!
 
As far as I know there is no difference. The only reason they produce cameras in China is that the labours are much cheaper than in Japan. Most Intel CPUs are produced in Malaysia and Germany, do you notice any differences between those ones and the ones made in U.S?
Emil Pozar said:
I've seen A80s labeled "made in Japan" and "made in China".. is
there any difference?!
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A DP beginner.
 
I've heard a rumor about the A80 made in Japan. There's a secret button somewhere that when pushed will display a sushi picture :-) I wonder what the Chinese one is... hummm.... I am hungry...
Emil Pozar said:
I've seen A80s labeled "made in Japan" and "made in China".. is
there any difference?!
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'Don't believe anything you read on the net. Except this. Well,
including this, I suppose.' Douglas Adams
 
Parn said:
My A80 was made in Japan. Although I have only had it for a few
weeks, I've never noticed any secret buttons.
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It's in the front where the lens is located. Turn on the camera, put your finger there and push really hard for a nice surprise! If nothing happens, us a sharp object or even a hammer.
 
Emil Pozar said:
I've seen A80s labeled "made in Japan" and "made in China".. is
there any difference?!
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Its like when car manufacturers moved to other countries. Mexican-built Volkswagens don't have the same tightness of build that the German-made ones do. My friend has a pair of 2003 Honda Accords, identical except for color, and that one was made in Ohio, the other in Japan. The Japanese one just feels tighter, more solid, though perhaps the Ohio car was made on a Friday afternoon.

THere are so many variables besides assembly, but if the store had both made in China and made in Japan, I know which I would pick.

'China, which we call Red China, just exploded a nuclear bomb, which we called a device'
  • Tom Lehrer
 
Yeah right! I have heard all that before. The truth is, if the company sucks, doesn't matter where the cars were made. My sister bought a brand new German Made Golf 2000 which gave us nothing but headache, with the worst kind of warranty service to top it off. We even went so far to try EVERY VW service centres we were able to visit in BC. Just pure nightmare.
asiafish said:
Its like when car manufacturers moved to other countries.
Mexican-built Volkswagens don't have the same tightness of build
that the German-made ones do. My friend has a pair of 2003 Honda
Accords, identical except for color, and that one was made in Ohio,
the other in Japan. The Japanese one just feels tighter, more
solid, though perhaps the Ohio car was made on a Friday afternoon.
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Moreover, I think most of the components inside a "Japan made" A80 will be made in some other places (most likely China). Reducing labour costs is in every company's mind and I think Canon, as well as other big companies, will contine to shift their production lines to China or other places. I doubt that the "China made" ones will be any different from the "Japan made" ones, provided that Canon has a good QC for their products.

I own a "Malaysia made" A70 and I'm comfortable with it, as long as it works properly and don't give me any headache!

In the end, you may just be paying a premium for the "Japan made" label. However, if I'm to make a choice between a "Japan made" or "China made" in a shop, I too will get the former because of psychological effect.

Cheers,
Ian Ching

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Ian Ching, Hong Kong
 
There's definitely something to that. For instance, a Ford built at the Kansas City, Missouri plant trumps a Ford built in Edison, New Jersey for fit and finish. Does it have anything to do with NJ's far higher High School dropout rate? Follow your instincts on that one.

Japan vs. the PRC in quality control. As just one example, you'll find that at machine shops which supply Chinese (PRC that is) measuring instruments will often have them collecting dust as machinists use their own Japanese (or Taiwanese, effectively as good as Japanese) micrometers, calipers, and runout gauges - that they bought with their own money, because experience has taught them not to trust those shabby Chinese instruments. I don't work in a machine shop, but I often visit them to discuss and review contracted tooling manufacture.
asiafish said:
though perhaps the Ohio car was made on a Friday afternoon.

THere are so many variables besides assembly, but if the store had
both made in China and made in Japan, I know which I would pick.
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Civis said:
Japan vs. the PRC in quality control. As just one example, you'll
find that at machine shops which supply Chinese (PRC that is)
measuring instruments will often have them collecting dust as
machinists use their own Japanese (or Taiwanese, effectively as
good as Japanese) micrometers, calipers, and runout gauges - that
they bought with their own money, because experience has taught
them not to trust those shabby Chinese instruments. I don't work in
a machine shop, but I often visit them to discuss and review
contracted tooling manufacture.
asiafish said:
though perhaps the Ohio car was made on a Friday afternoon.

THere are so many variables besides assembly, but if the store had
both made in China and made in Japan, I know which I would pick.
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My bottom-of-the-line Mazda Protege, made in Japan with 97% Japanese parts, has fit and finish that is worlds better than my last Japanese car, a made-in-the-USA Mitsubishi Galant, despite a $3500 lower sticker price.

'China, which we call Red China, just exploded a nuclear bomb, which we called a device'
  • Tom Lehrer
 
asiafish said:
Civis said:
Japan vs. the PRC in quality control. As just one example, you'll
find that at machine shops which supply Chinese (PRC that is)
measuring instruments will often have them collecting dust as
machinists use their own Japanese (or Taiwanese, effectively as
good as Japanese) micrometers, calipers, and runout gauges - that
they bought with their own money, because experience has taught
them not to trust those shabby Chinese instruments. I don't work in
a machine shop, but I often visit them to discuss and review
contracted tooling manufacture.
asiafish said:
though perhaps the Ohio car was made on a Friday afternoon.

THere are so many variables besides assembly, but if the store had
both made in China and made in Japan, I know which I would pick.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
My bottom-of-the-line Mazda Protege, made in Japan with 97%
Japanese parts, has fit and finish that is worlds better than my
last Japanese car, a made-in-the-USA Mitsubishi Galant, despite a
$3500 lower sticker price.

'China, which we call Red China, just exploded a nuclear bomb,
which we called a device'
  • Tom Lehrer
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Never ever buy things made in China , except low quality ugly toys!!!!

macco .
 
macco said:
asiafish said:
Civis said:
Japan vs. the PRC in quality control. As just one example, you'll
find that at machine shops which supply Chinese (PRC that is)
measuring instruments will often have them collecting dust as
machinists use their own Japanese (or Taiwanese, effectively as
good as Japanese) micrometers, calipers, and runout gauges - that
they bought with their own money, because experience has taught
them not to trust those shabby Chinese instruments. I don't work in
a machine shop, but I often visit them to discuss and review
contracted tooling manufacture.
asiafish said:
though perhaps the Ohio car was made on a Friday afternoon.

THere are so many variables besides assembly, but if the store had
both made in China and made in Japan, I know which I would pick.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
My bottom-of-the-line Mazda Protege, made in Japan with 97%
Japanese parts, has fit and finish that is worlds better than my
last Japanese car, a made-in-the-USA Mitsubishi Galant, despite a
$3500 lower sticker price.

'China, which we call Red China, just exploded a nuclear bomb,
which we called a device'
  • Tom Lehrer
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Never ever buy things made in China , except low quality ugly toys!!!!

macco .
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Tsing Tao beer is excellent!

'China, which we call Red China, just exploded a nuclear bomb, which we called a device'
  • Tom Lehrer
 
Things are getting a little heated up here. The US has about a $130 billion trade deficit with China. That is a BIG number.. 130,000,000,000. in a year. If you are concered about goods from China, you wont be getting very much from Santa this year. And, being a really OLD guy, I can recall a time when if you didn't have a camera with a Zeiss or Leica lens.. (made in Germany..) you had a piece of junk not worth taking pictures with. Japanese glass was not consided worthy of consideration. Oh, and a month or so ago I picked up a lower end Nikon at CompUSA and it had a label .. Indonesia. Pop the cover off your laptop or desktop and look at the chips.. all over the place... like the bleepin UN. So... let it go and take some pictures today. Be happy.

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REM
 
ralph m said:
Things are getting a little heated up here. The US has about a
$130 billion trade deficit with China. That is a BIG number..
130,000,000,000. in a year. If you are concered about goods from
China, you wont be getting very much from Santa this year. And,
being a really OLD guy, I can recall a time when if you didn't have
a camera with a Zeiss or Leica lens.. (made in Germany..) you had a
piece of junk not worth taking pictures with. Japanese glass was
not consided worthy of consideration. Oh, and a month or so ago I
picked up a lower end Nikon at CompUSA and it had a label ..
Indonesia. Pop the cover off your laptop or desktop and look at
the chips.. all over the place... like the bleepin UN. So... let
it go and take some pictures today. Be happy.

--
REM
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Many countries you wouldn't expect have become leaders not only in vollume, but quality as well. For instance, South Korea is the largest manufacturer and seller of cargo ships and computer memory in the world, while Taiwan is the largest producer of LCD displays for computer and television use. The United States no longer manufacturers VCRs, DVD players, Television sets or, with the exception of VERY high end (super expensive) stuff, Stereo equipment.

A lot of Chinese products are very good and well priced, usually anything requiring traditional labor or from a modern factory, however, other countries such as Japan still do things better. A Japanese violin is at least three times the cost of a Chinese violin. I bought the Chinese violin for my daughter not on price, but by sound, and in the bargain she got an instrument with the most beautiful woodworking I've ever seen on a student instrument. On the other hand, we had a Chinese VCR a few years ago (bought in China) that started malfunctioning after just a few months.

'China, which we call Red China, just exploded a nuclear bomb, which we called a device'
  • Tom Lehrer
 
Seems like most electronics are made in China now. The little I heard from a customer of mine reguarding brass buckles he was having made there was they will make what you tell them you want made. If you want top notch stuff and pay for good QC, you get it. If the company is only interested in the lowest price, with quality the second concern, then that is what they will make.
Ian Ching said:
Moreover, I think most of the components inside a "Japan made" A80
will be made in some other places (most likely China). Reducing
labour costs is in every company's mind and I think Canon, as well
as other big companies, will contine to shift their production
lines to China or other places. I doubt that the "China made" ones
will be any different from the "Japan made" ones, provided that
Canon has a good QC for their products.

I own a "Malaysia made" A70 and I'm comfortable with it, as long as
it works properly and don't give me any headache!

In the end, you may just be paying a premium for the "Japan made"
label. However, if I'm to make a choice between a "Japan made" or
"China made" in a shop, I too will get the former because of
psychological effect.

Cheers,
Ian Ching

--
Ian Ching, Hong Kong
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My gallery G3 so far... http://www.pbase.com/noonin
 
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