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im becomming ever more curious. why is it that no one ever comments on my photos? are they that bad or unworthy of comments or is it just that im a nuisance? ive posted about 15 photos and only a small handful of them have even a single comment and its usually something along the lines of "nice shot syckklam!" or "this is awful!" with no advice or anything.

personally, i think im offering something completely fresh that hasnt been seen here before. maybe thats a bad thing, but i dont see how it could be. i guess if i want people to comment, i have to take pictures of people or flowers or insects or birds. im just a little frustrated, i guess. if my style is unwanted here, thats just as understandable. i just want to know what people think. im just like you guys, except im at the breaking point now. =p

help me, im confused. =)
  • peter
 
Well, syckklam, I think what you have here is cool and original, and I can't help but wondering how you managed not to get your camera wet. Your light is good, and the BW is good, but one thing you could work on in this particular photo is the composition. It seems that it is too center-heavy, and the angled tile in the background is not only distracting, but hints at careless composition. If you had lined up the background, making it straighter, or angled the composition so the water cut a diagonal from top corner to bottom corner, you might have a better composition. It never hurts to try to follow the rule of thirds if at all possible.

As far as your other photos, I have not seen any of them, but I certainly respect that you are doing something original. I feel much the same way about my photography, but the bottom line is: people are different, and not everyone will like your relatively different style. Many of the photographers on this community post photos of birds and sunsets because that is what they like, so when a photo like yours comes along, rather than saying "I don't like it," they simply don't comment.

I suggest you join the photopoints community (www.photopoints.com) if you are interested in constructive critique, and submit your photos with the "In-Depth Critique Preffered" option selected. I find the photographers on Photopoints to be honest, insightful, responsive, and constructive.
Good luck with your photography.
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Francis Bartus
http://www.thoughtemporium.org
Gallery @ http://www.thoughtemporium.org/p/
 
I am sorry if you feel slighted in any way, I try to cover all the posts I can. I will offer a comment, by your own admission you admit to posting some unusual images and perhaps others don't know how to react to them. Take this one for example, technically it is very good but the subject is a bit unusual. It did make me smile though, I like it in a sort of odd way. It honestly says nothing, nor do I find any great qualities in it except to say it is unusual. Photography is an individual type concept I guess. Just keep shooting and exploring in your own private manner and never in the way another feels is correct, unless that person is paying for your work, then they are always correct! Just enjoy the experience as it comes.

Thanx... Alan

Life is too short not to enjoy...
 
Hi, Pete (is that really your name?).

Anyway, I don't get much feedback either when I post something like this, so don't worry as long as you're pleased w/ it yourself. And actually, I've rarely gotten more than a few comments and pretty much never the number of comments that some get for their shots of animals, waterfalls, sunsets, nice landscapes, etc. And if you weren't around, I might easily lose 20% of my commentators. :-)

Anyway, I don't really know what to think about this one myself. I'm not sure it really needs any changes since I don't really see why you decided to shoot it. This could easily be a shot that requires "breaking rules" to work, but that really depends on what you're after. Personally, I'm not big on rules either and don't really know them although I'm aware of their significance.

Man

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Hi syckklam,
I enjoyed your self portrait
and since then have looked into your posted images.
But they have all been bathroom shots
and I am kinda wondering about that..lol
I like this shot.
I think of "psychO" (the movie)
Best wishes...
bRUCE
syckklam said:
something ive yet to see elsewhere.. comments...



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just a canon s230 and a dream for more
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bruce,

the only reason i take so many pictures in my bathroom is that my bathroom has very interesting lighting and strange colours. ive been noticing that too. my room is boring and its difficult to stop and take pictures of anything else in houston, since its not a pedestrian city. im also still learning and what better place than the bathroom? ;p
thanks for the comments.
  • peter
Bvcuma said:
syckklam said:
something ive yet to see elsewhere.. comments...



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http://symplistic.net
just a canon s230 and a dream for more
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http://symplistic.net
i need a job.
 
man,

peter is definately my name. i am pleased with myself, but there are a lot of times when im not sure what i can improve on or what to change or anything and its frustrating when no one wants to or just cant help. maybe i should take bruce and my girlfriend's advice and just get out of the bathroom. =)
  • peter
Man-Fai Wong said:
Hi, Pete (is that really your name?).

Anyway, I don't get much feedback either when I post something like
this, so don't worry as long as you're pleased w/ it yourself. And
actually, I've rarely gotten more than a few comments and pretty
much never the number of comments that some get for their shots of
animals, waterfalls, sunsets, nice landscapes, etc. And if you
weren't around, I might easily lose 20% of my commentators. :-)

Anyway, I don't really know what to think about this one myself.
I'm not sure it really needs any changes since I don't really see
why you decided to shoot it. This could easily be a shot that
requires "breaking rules" to work, but that really depends on what
you're after. Personally, I'm not big on rules either and don't
really know them although I'm aware of their significance.

Man

--
Just a newbie-ish amateur -- see profile for more.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at email:[email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
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--
http://symplistic.net
i need a job.
 
Haha..
thats funny peter.
Of course all in good humour...
But seriously I am sure you have other interesting
avenues to explore..even in houston.
And this shot is growing on me,
really does bring a psycho memory
(the girl in the shower scene)
And that has a powerful effect.
The old style showerhead..in B&W.
Bruce
btw any portraits of the girlfriend
seeing we have the same advices to offer..
you have got me curious

syckklam wrote:
syckklam said:
  • peter
Man-Fai Wong said:
Hi, Pete (is that really your name?).

Anyway, I don't get much feedback either when I post something like
this, so don't worry as long as you're pleased w/ it yourself. And
actually, I've rarely gotten more than a few comments and pretty
much never the number of comments that some get for their shots of
animals, waterfalls, sunsets, nice landscapes, etc. And if you
weren't around, I might easily lose 20% of my commentators. :-)

Anyway, I don't really know what to think about this one myself.
I'm not sure it really needs any changes since I don't really see
why you decided to shoot it. This could easily be a shot that
requires "breaking rules" to work, but that really depends on what
you're after. Personally, I'm not big on rules either and don't
really know them although I'm aware of their significance.

Man

--
Just a newbie-ish amateur -- see profile for more.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at email:[email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
Click to expand...
--
http://symplistic.net
i need a job.
Click to expand...
 
im glad you like it, bruce. i really admire your portraits. i just never commented on them because they were already flooded with the same comments i would have made. im beginning to consider other options. i do take other pictures, its just that i know instinctively whats good and bad about them. these im not sure about and i was hoping someone else might be able to shed some light without bringing up the classic art terms like the "rule of thirds". ill try posting some less "different" subjects and hopefully get some more comments. i do have a portrait of my girlfriend but she won't let me post it. =)
Bvcuma said:
Haha..
thats funny peter.
Of course all in good humour...
But seriously I am sure you have other interesting
avenues to explore..even in houston.
And this shot is growing on me,
really does bring a psycho memory
(the girl in the shower scene)
And that has a powerful effect.
The old style showerhead..in B&W.
Bruce
btw any portraits of the girlfriend
seeing we have the same advices to offer..
you have got me curious
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andrew,

i have a secret to tell you. the camera got a few droplets of water on it. please dont tell anyone, especially not canon. also, i went out to take some pictures during the recent flood and i didnt take an umbrella with me. the camera got pretty angry and turned itself off after awhile. its been behaving better than it was before that since then, so i dont regret it. this thing was built to last. ive put it through hell for a year and it has only missed a few beats, always bouncing back to hit the next one twice as hard. i want someone to take a picture of me as im taking a picture in the shower.. its a post modern masterpiece in the making.
thanks for the kind words.
  • peter
Andrew Prince said:
I thought the same thing other did...How did he keep the camera
dry? I like the image. I wouldn't change a thing.

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Warm Wishes,
-Andy
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http://symplistic.net
i need a job.
 
I definitely understand your frustration. This forum seems to belong to a small number of people who get all the feedback and comments. I do like your picture and the only thing I might suggest is to Photoshop out the black thing behind the shower head, it seems to distract me. Thanks for sharing...

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Lance
http://mytwocents1.home.comcast.net/
 
a little sloppy, but your wish is my command. this is my first time to do real retouching. tell me what you think as far as thats concerned too. thanks for the advice.
  • peter

Lance said:
I definitely understand your frustration. This forum seems to
belong to a small number of people who get all the feedback and
comments. I do like your picture and the only thing I might suggest
is to Photoshop out the black thing behind the shower head, it
seems to distract me. Thanks for sharing...

--
Lance
http://mytwocents1.home.comcast.net/
Click to expand...
--
http://symplistic.net
i need a job.
 
Hello syckklam,

I hesitated to recommend another forum. I like it here. I don't get that much feedback either, but I'm content. I like to hear what others feel about my photos, but it's not the only reason that visit here. I like to see what other people are doing and to hear comments on all the different images. I've learned much just by reading the posts and viewing the images. I've made a few photo friends and have generally enjoyed myself.

Anyway, I also visit several other forums. One of my favorites is at

http://www.schoolofphotography.com

I havn't taken any of thier classes, but I've heard they're good. I've become quite fond of the forum though. It's small, probably no more than 10 people regularly post. I know everyone there and they all give good advice. Give it a try, you may find a gem of an opportunity to make new friends and see this whole business in a different way. I'll see you there.

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Warm Wishes,
-Andy
 
I'm not sure your description about "belong to a small number" is quite accurate though.

Yeah, some posters do get lots more feedback than others, but that probably just reflects the interests of the regulars who post comments as well as the quality of the photos. Posters here tend to be "nice" w/ their comments, so of course, you won't see too many comments left for photos that either don't interest or are of lower quality.

Me? I definitely try to spread my feedback around although obviously I can't offer feedback to every posted photo, especially w/ so many photos being posted these days, so I still tend to give more feedback for photos that interest me though I won't hesitate to point out flaws that I see in them. Of course, my critique won't be as good as many others since I'm just a newbie-ish amateur. And as it is, I've offended at least 2 far more experienced photogs w/ anything but perfectly nice feedback. But don't worry. That probably won't stop me from taking a little risk and offending more people around here -- and I have no problems w/ apologizing if I'm out of line. :-)

Anyway, the forum "belongs" to whoever wishes to adopt it. If you want to see things go differently, then by all means dive in and post away.

Here's an obvious tip for you though. If you want feedback, it's good to be generous w/ offering feedback yourself. You need to establish a little bit of a rapport w/ the regulars, which is quite normal. Can't expect to get tons of feedback by just dumping photos w/out offering your own feedback -- I see a lot of that these days. Yes, I do also see a few who get lots of feedback w/out necessarily offering much themselves, but usually, they are posting lots of exceptionally good and/or interesting photos and generally get very positive feedback only.

And maybe most people are just content to lurk and see and learn like Andy points out in his post below -- well, sort of -- although he is actually active in offering feedback. Personally, I learn much like Andy does -- and I learn even by my own amateurish critique of other's photos since I must see and think in order to critique (even when I'm ultimately just praising the photo). And then, maybe a lot of visitors just don't care enough to dive in and post or just feel too insecure.

Anyway, don't be just a lurker. Dive in and post. I've probably offered 20x the feedback I've received myself, but I do receive enough to keep me satisfied. :-) But if you don't post, how can you get any feedback?

BTW, I checked and see that I did comment on (and loved) one of your 2 last photo posts -- the one of your little girl. The more recent "walk downtown" set is nice too although not the most interesting shots for me, and I just didn't get around to commenting on it yet.

Man
Lance said:
I definitely understand your frustration. This forum seems to
belong to a small number of people who get all the feedback and
comments. I do like your picture and the only thing I might suggest
is to Photoshop out the black thing behind the shower head, it
seems to distract me. Thanks for sharing...

--
Lance
http://mytwocents1.home.comcast.net/
Click to expand...
--
Just a newbie-ish amateur -- see profile for more.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at email:[email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
 
I have to say I like quite a few photos there. You should post some of them for feedback. I would certainly comment on at least some of them. :-)

Man
Man-Fai Wong said:
Yeah, some posters do get lots more feedback than others, but that
probably just reflects the interests of the regulars who post
comments as well as the quality of the photos. Posters here tend
to be "nice" w/ their comments, so of course, you won't see too
many comments left for photos that either don't interest or are of
lower quality.

Me? I definitely try to spread my feedback around although
obviously I can't offer feedback to every posted photo, especially
w/ so many photos being posted these days, so I still tend to give
more feedback for photos that interest me though I won't hesitate
to point out flaws that I see in them. Of course, my critique
won't be as good as many others since I'm just a newbie-ish
amateur. And as it is, I've offended at least 2 far more
experienced photogs w/ anything but perfectly nice feedback. But
don't worry. That probably won't stop me from taking a little risk
and offending more people around here -- and I have no problems w/
apologizing if I'm out of line. :-)

Anyway, the forum "belongs" to whoever wishes to adopt it. If you
want to see things go differently, then by all means dive in and
post away.

Here's an obvious tip for you though. If you want feedback, it's
good to be generous w/ offering feedback yourself. You need to
establish a little bit of a rapport w/ the regulars, which is quite
normal. Can't expect to get tons of feedback by just dumping
photos w/out offering your own feedback -- I see a lot of that
these days. Yes, I do also see a few who get lots of feedback
w/out necessarily offering much themselves, but usually, they are
posting lots of exceptionally good and/or interesting photos and
generally get very positive feedback only.

And maybe most people are just content to lurk and see and learn
like Andy points out in his post below -- well, sort of -- although
he is actually active in offering feedback. Personally, I learn
much like Andy does -- and I learn even by my own amateurish
critique of other's photos since I must see and think in order to
critique (even when I'm ultimately just praising the photo). And
then, maybe a lot of visitors just don't care enough to dive in and
post or just feel too insecure.

Anyway, don't be just a lurker. Dive in and post. I've probably
offered 20x the feedback I've received myself, but I do receive
enough to keep me satisfied. :-) But if you don't post, how can
you get any feedback?

BTW, I checked and see that I did comment on (and loved) one of
your 2 last photo posts -- the one of your little girl. The more
recent "walk downtown" set is nice too although not the most
interesting shots for me, and I just didn't get around to
commenting on it yet.

Man
Lance said:
I definitely understand your frustration. This forum seems to
belong to a small number of people who get all the feedback and
comments. I do like your picture and the only thing I might suggest
is to Photoshop out the black thing behind the shower head, it
seems to distract me. Thanks for sharing...

--
Lance
http://mytwocents1.home.comcast.net/
Click to expand...
--
Just a newbie-ish amateur -- see profile for more.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at email:[email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
Click to expand...
--
Just a newbie-ish amateur -- see profile for more.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at email:[email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
 
Man,

although this comment isnt completely directed at me, ill agree with you, as i have noticed more people commenting since i started making it a point to comment on others' photographs (albiet, not much more =)). im posting on photopoints now and it has been very good. people critique within minutes of a post. its nice. they hated the picture i posted here too. the comments were quite strange a vague, which i take to mean it wasnt worthy of comments or unable to be commented on.
  • peter
Man-Fai Wong said:
Yeah, some posters do get lots more feedback than others, but that
probably just reflects the interests of the regulars who post
comments as well as the quality of the photos. Posters here tend
to be "nice" w/ their comments, so of course, you won't see too
many comments left for photos that either don't interest or are of
lower quality.

Me? I definitely try to spread my feedback around although
obviously I can't offer feedback to every posted photo, especially
w/ so many photos being posted these days, so I still tend to give
more feedback for photos that interest me though I won't hesitate
to point out flaws that I see in them. Of course, my critique
won't be as good as many others since I'm just a newbie-ish
amateur. And as it is, I've offended at least 2 far more
experienced photogs w/ anything but perfectly nice feedback. But
don't worry. That probably won't stop me from taking a little risk
and offending more people around here -- and I have no problems w/
apologizing if I'm out of line. :-)

Anyway, the forum "belongs" to whoever wishes to adopt it. If you
want to see things go differently, then by all means dive in and
post away.

Here's an obvious tip for you though. If you want feedback, it's
good to be generous w/ offering feedback yourself. You need to
establish a little bit of a rapport w/ the regulars, which is quite
normal. Can't expect to get tons of feedback by just dumping
photos w/out offering your own feedback -- I see a lot of that
these days. Yes, I do also see a few who get lots of feedback
w/out necessarily offering much themselves, but usually, they are
posting lots of exceptionally good and/or interesting photos and
generally get very positive feedback only.

And maybe most people are just content to lurk and see and learn
like Andy points out in his post below -- well, sort of -- although
he is actually active in offering feedback. Personally, I learn
much like Andy does -- and I learn even by my own amateurish
critique of other's photos since I must see and think in order to
critique (even when I'm ultimately just praising the photo). And
then, maybe a lot of visitors just don't care enough to dive in and
post or just feel too insecure.

Anyway, don't be just a lurker. Dive in and post. I've probably
offered 20x the feedback I've received myself, but I do receive
enough to keep me satisfied. :-) But if you don't post, how can
you get any feedback?

BTW, I checked and see that I did comment on (and loved) one of
your 2 last photo posts -- the one of your little girl. The more
recent "walk downtown" set is nice too although not the most
interesting shots for me, and I just didn't get around to
commenting on it yet.

Man
Lance said:
I definitely understand your frustration. This forum seems to
belong to a small number of people who get all the feedback and
comments. I do like your picture and the only thing I might suggest
is to Photoshop out the black thing behind the shower head, it
seems to distract me. Thanks for sharing...

--
Lance
http://mytwocents1.home.comcast.net/
Click to expand...
--
Just a newbie-ish amateur -- see profile for more.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at email:[email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
Click to expand...
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http://symplistic.net
a canon s230 and a dream for more
 
Ok. I think that aroused some interest in me. :-) I guess having Hitchcock on your side can't hurt, aye? ;-)

Pete,

Now, where's the voyerish shot out your window. Won't need to worry about getting punched out if you keep it discrete. ;-) I'd like some tracking shots w/ your S230's video mode too. :-)

Man
Bvcuma said:
syckklam wrote:
syckklam said:
  • peter
Man-Fai Wong said:
Hi, Pete (is that really your name?).

Anyway, I don't get much feedback either when I post something like
this, so don't worry as long as you're pleased w/ it yourself. And
actually, I've rarely gotten more than a few comments and pretty
much never the number of comments that some get for their shots of
animals, waterfalls, sunsets, nice landscapes, etc. And if you
weren't around, I might easily lose 20% of my commentators. :-)

Anyway, I don't really know what to think about this one myself.
I'm not sure it really needs any changes since I don't really see
why you decided to shoot it. This could easily be a shot that
requires "breaking rules" to work, but that really depends on what
you're after. Personally, I'm not big on rules either and don't
really know them although I'm aware of their significance.

Man

--
Just a newbie-ish amateur -- see profile for more.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at email:[email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
Click to expand...
--
http://symplistic.net
i need a job.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Just a newbie-ish amateur -- see profile for more.
As usual, YMMV + caveat emptor.
Contact me at email:[email protected]
Indulge my fancies at http://www.pbase.com/mandnwong
 
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