Send in the petition. Canon needs a good chuckle.

pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

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pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

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Jeremy Kindy said:

--
Jeremy Kindy

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pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

Click to expand...

pbleic said:

pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

Click to expand...

--
Paul
------------------------------------------------
Pbase supporter
Photographs at: http://www.pbase.com/pbleic/photos
--------------------------------------------------
Copyright 2003 All rights reserved.

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pbleic said:

pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

Click to expand...

--
Paul
------------------------------------------------
Pbase supporter
Photographs at: http://www.pbase.com/pbleic/photos
--------------------------------------------------
Copyright 2003 All rights reserved.

Click to expand...

pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

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MikeD said:

Paul,

Not that anyone should respond to you while you are obviously being
sarcastic toward them.

My 2cents is that I agree with PaulyOly - the metering is not
broken and is just like the other Rebels. What DOES need to be
brought to Canon's attention is the erratic operation of the
AIFocus implementation in this model and the very real, unreliable
flash exposure. Those are the only REAL complaints I have with my
DR, and I think they are justifiable ones.

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Daniella said:

pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

Click to expand...

--
I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918

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PaulyOly said:

pbleic said:

pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

Click to expand...

--
Paul
------------------------------------------------
Pbase supporter
Photographs at: http://www.pbase.com/pbleic/photos
--------------------------------------------------
Copyright 2003 All rights reserved.

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I'm only complaining about the unwanted AI servo when recomposing,
just wanted to state my complaint.

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misha said:

MikeD said:

Paul,

Not that anyone should respond to you while you are obviously being
sarcastic toward them.

My 2cents is that I agree with PaulyOly - the metering is not
broken and is just like the other Rebels. What DOES need to be
brought to Canon's attention is the erratic operation of the
AIFocus implementation in this model and the very real, unreliable
flash exposure. Those are the only REAL complaints I have with my
DR, and I think they are justifiable ones.

Click to expand...

Do AI focus and flash exposure work better in other Rebels?
--
Misha

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anthonyc said:

pbeic is right, it looks like the 300D has basically the same
feature set as the 300V. I asked if other Canons use AI Focus
exclusively a few days ago but no answer. I guess here's the
answer! That's too bad, because that makes it less likely they'll
address the AI Focus issue. Oh well, time to get friendly with that
DOF preview button.

Daniella said:

pbleic said:

GUESS WHICH CAMERA HAS:
--------------------------------
EXPOSURE CONTROL
Metering modes:
evaluative (linkable to any AF point, automatically set in all
shooting modes except manual (M)
partial (at centre), approx. 9.5% of viewfinder, automatically set
with AE Lock
centreweighted average, automatically set in manual (M) mode
---------------------------

Yes, you guessed it. The EOS 300V (EOS REBEL Ti) [EOS KISS 5]

You mean, Canon didn't just dream this up for the DR? They use
this metering philosophy on their film cameras? Their less
expensive cameras?

Yes, Virginia.

And for FEC?
----------------------
Flash exposure compensation: not provided
----------------------
Huh, isn't it funny that they have sort of the same name too.

Gee, and they do focus mode assignment the same way.

Check out p 54 of the manual:
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/html/instruct.pdf

Holy cow. Its like a film version of the Digital Rebel. I guess
this whole metering, focus, and FEC thing is just part of their
product strategy. Go figure.

Click to expand...

--
I am not an English native speaker!
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=26918

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anthonyc said:

pbeic is right, it looks like the 300D has basically the same
feature set as the 300V

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Philip Strong said:

Philip Strong said:

pbeic is right, it looks like the 300D has basically the same
feature set as the 300V

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yes, it certainly is canons intention to make it blend in nicely in
the 300-series, and they really worked hard on it ;-)

but looking at the drebels hardware it's basically a 10d.

so i'm optimistic (maybe not about canon, but in general): whenever
there's hardware there will be eventually be software taking full
advantage of it...

philip

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Daniella said:

maybe once they realise that we are walking around with littel 2.5
plug on the side of the camera, that we are using remote software
to change the flash exposure compensation, that they have to repair
tons of cameras for unusualy wear out DOF preview buttons...maybe
then they will realize that they cannot stop people from bypassing
their limitations and give us a fix? ))

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Doug Kerr said:

. . . has a lot of its owners complaining about inappropriate flash
exposure, and about handy control features its predecessor had but
it doesn't?

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