X2D or the X2DII for landscape setup?

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Ive thought about the X2D with the XCD 21 for a dedicated landscape setup. Now that the X2DII is out and the price is very tempting I am thinking if I should consider this one instead. But then the prices of used X2D have fallen to become too tempting as well. I am finding mint used X2Ds for the low 4K USD. My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup? I know the X2DII has much faster AF and low light focusing capabilities but that shouldn't matter if I am only going to use it for landscape photography? Also since I plan on sticking to the original XCD lenses I might not even see any improvement in AF performance on the new camera.

Is the IBIS on the mark 2 that much better than the OG X2D? I might want to shoot waterfalls handheld at 1/2s or 1s shutter speed. Is that possible with the X2D or will I have to upgrade to the mark 2?

Tough 1st world problems :-)

TIA for any input.
 
The benefits for Mark II are not so evident for landscape photography.

I would list the following as advantages that matter. You must decide whether it is worth the price difference.

- Brighter rear LCD

- Better articulating rear LCD

- Auto ISO in M mode

- Wired remote

- More function buttons

- Shorter blackouts

Note that better IBIS requires an iOS device.
 
The benefits for Mark II are not so evident for landscape photography.

I would list the following as advantages that matter. You must decide whether it is worth the price difference.
  • Brighter rear LCD
  • Better articulating rear LCD
  • Auto ISO in M mode
  • Wired remote
  • More function buttons
  • Shorter blackouts
Note that better IBIS requires an iOS device.
Have you tested the IBIS with an IOS device?
 
The benefits for Mark II are not so evident for landscape photography.

I would list the following as advantages that matter. You must decide whether it is worth the price difference.
  • Brighter rear LCD
  • Better articulating rear LCD
  • Auto ISO in M mode
  • Wired remote
  • More function buttons
  • Shorter blackouts
Note that better IBIS requires an iOS device.
Have you tested the IBIS with an IOS device?
I use an IOS device to 'calibrate' IBIS as instructed by Hasselblad, but I never test IBIS as it is very hard to do. My impression is that Mark 2 has better IBIS.
 
Ive thought about the X2D with the XCD 21 for a dedicated landscape setup. Now that the X2DII is out and the price is very tempting I am thinking if I should consider this one instead. But then the prices of used X2D have fallen to become too tempting as well. I am finding mint used X2Ds for the low 4K USD. My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup? I know the X2DII has much faster AF and low light focusing capabilities but that shouldn't matter if I am only going to use it for landscape photography? Also since I plan on sticking to the original XCD lenses I might not even see any improvement in AF performance on the new camera.

Is the IBIS on the mark 2 that much better than the OG X2D? I might want to shoot waterfalls handheld at 1/2s or 1s shutter speed. Is that possible with the X2D or will I have to upgrade to the mark 2?

Tough 1st world problems :-)

TIA for any input.
Personally, I'm keeping the X2D. There are two things that interest me about the X2D2 over the X2D: the better rear-screen fold-out and the miniature joystick. The IBIS on the X2D is really awesome, so an incremental upgrade doesn't really appeal to me. None of these items makes me want to buy the "newest and greatest."
 
My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup?
In my opinion, not enough to warrant the extra cost.

In my mind, "dedicated landscape setup" means tripod use, in which case the image stabilization improvement may not be meaningful to you.

If you may add other uses, it may warrant additional consideration.

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Personal travel snapshots at https://www.castle-explorers.com
1. Making good decisions is generally the result of experience.
2. Experience is generally the result of making bad decisions.
3. Never underestimate your capability for doing incredibly stupid s**t.
 
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Ive thought about the X2D with the XCD 21 for a dedicated landscape setup. Now that the X2DII is out and the price is very tempting I am thinking if I should consider this one instead. But then the prices of used X2D have fallen to become too tempting as well. I am finding mint used X2Ds for the low 4K USD. My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup? I know the X2DII has much faster AF and low light focusing capabilities but that shouldn't matter if I am only going to use it for landscape photography? Also since I plan on sticking to the original XCD lenses I might not even see any improvement in AF performance on the new camera.

Is the IBIS on the mark 2 that much better than the OG X2D? I might want to shoot waterfalls handheld at 1/2s or 1s shutter speed. Is that possible with the X2D or will I have to upgrade to the mark 2?

Tough 1st world problems :-)

TIA for any input.
I thought you were a GFX shooter? Seems the 100s/ii and 20-35 would be a better dedicated setup…

If you are set on Hasselblad, I sold my X2D before the launch of the X2Dii, and received my X2Dii few weeks back…my primary use would be landscape. The X2Dii improvements are subtle but noticeable, mainly the improved low light AF, joystick and tilting screen. With that said, I am on the fence about keeping and going back to the X2D or maybe going with GFX, which is the best value proposition with more telephoto options…the cost of the Hasselblad glass is a tough pill to swallow, but I do love the rendering.

Overall, the X2D is a great value and will serve you very well as a dedicated landscape camera….although the 100s and 20-35 would too with more flexibility, and could add the 35-70…I am talking myself into going back to GFX :)

Good luck
 
The benefits for Mark II are not so evident for landscape photography.

I would list the following as advantages that matter. You must decide whether it is worth the price difference.

- Brighter rear LCD
Might be good for bright day time shooting
- Better articulating rear LCD
This is a good feature for waist level shooting which I might need
- Auto ISO in M mode
This is a good one
- Wired remote
I'll use a time delay shutter on tripod
- More function buttons
Dont need it.
- Shorter blackouts
Doesnt matter to me. I still love the X1DII.
Note that better IBIS requires an iOS device.
This is what I am debating about. How much better is the IBIS on the mark 2. If I can get 1/2s handheld shot I am happy.
 
Ive thought about the X2D with the XCD 21 for a dedicated landscape setup. Now that the X2DII is out and the price is very tempting I am thinking if I should consider this one instead. But then the prices of used X2D have fallen to become too tempting as well. I am finding mint used X2Ds for the low 4K USD. My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup? I know the X2DII has much faster AF and low light focusing capabilities but that shouldn't matter if I am only going to use it for landscape photography? Also since I plan on sticking to the original XCD lenses I might not even see any improvement in AF performance on the new camera.

Is the IBIS on the mark 2 that much better than the OG X2D? I might want to shoot waterfalls handheld at 1/2s or 1s shutter speed. Is that possible with the X2D or will I have to upgrade to the mark 2?

Tough 1st world problems :-)

TIA for any input.
Personally, I'm keeping the X2D. There are two things that interest me about the X2D2 over the X2D: the better rear-screen fold-out and the miniature joystick. The IBIS on the X2D is really awesome, so an incremental upgrade doesn't really appeal to me. None of these items makes me want to buy the "newest and greatest."
How incremental is it?
 
My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup?
In my opinion, not enough to warrant the extra cost.

In my mind, "dedicated landscape setup" means tripod use, in which case the image stabilization improvement may not be meaningful to you.
I might want to handhold it during my hikes without a tripod in case I come upon a waterfall and want to shoot it at 1/2s shutter speed. Is 1s shutter possible with the X2D, or will I need the X2D2 for that?
If you may add other uses, it may warrant additional consideration.
 
Is 1s shutter possible with the X2D, or will I need the X2D2 for that?
Don't know. I always use a tripod for that.

I subscribe to the "anything over 50 yards from the car just isn't very interesting" philosophy for hiking :-)

I might walk that far for something really important though, like a bar maybe :-)

--
Personal travel snapshots at https://www.castle-explorers.com
1. Making good decisions is generally the result of experience.
2. Experience is generally the result of making bad decisions.
3. Never underestimate your capability for doing incredibly stupid s**t.
 
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Is 1s shutter possible with the X2D, or will I need the X2D2 for that?
Don't know. I always use a tripod for that.

I subscribe to the "anything over 50 yards from the car just isn't very interesting" philosophy for hiking :-)
😄
I might walk that far for something really important though, like a bar maybe :-)
I like this philosophy 😄
--
Personal travel snapshots at https://www.castle-explorers.com
1. Making good decisions is generally the result of experience.
2. Experience is generally the result of making bad decisions.
3. Never underestimate your capability for doing incredibly stupid s**t.
 
The benefits for Mark II are not so evident for landscape photography.

I would list the following as advantages that matter. You must decide whether it is worth the price difference.

- Brighter rear LCD
Might be good for bright day time shooting
- Better articulating rear LCD
This is a good feature for waist level shooting which I might need
Also above head, when you do not have a ladder to climb on :). Mark I does not twist both ways.
- Auto ISO in M mode
This is a good one
- Wired remote
I'll use a time delay shutter on tripod
Me too, but if you need to time it (e.g., waves, quick light changes), you may want to attach the wired release.
- More function buttons
Dont need it.
- Shorter blackouts
Doesnt matter to me. I still love the X1DII.
Note that better IBIS requires an iOS device.
This is what I am debating about. How much better is the IBIS on the mark 2. If I can get 1/2s handheld shot I am happy.
The slowest handholding time depends on you. I would say one to two stops better than Mark II, but I have not tested it.
 
The benefits for Mark II are not so evident for landscape photography.

I would list the following as advantages that matter. You must decide whether it is worth the price difference.

- Brighter rear LCD
Might be good for bright day time shooting
- Better articulating rear LCD
This is a good feature for waist level shooting which I might need
Also above head, when you do not have a ladder to climb on :). Mark I does not twist both ways.
Ah true. That makes sense
- Auto ISO in M mode
This is a good one
- Wired remote
I'll use a time delay shutter on tripod
Me too, but if you need to time it (e.g., waves, quick light changes), you may want to attach the wired release.
Another good point.
- More function buttons
Dont need it.
- Shorter blackouts
Doesnt matter to me. I still love the X1DII.
Note that better IBIS requires an iOS device.
This is what I am debating about. How much better is the IBIS on the mark 2. If I can get 1/2s handheld shot I am happy.
The slowest handholding time depends on you. I would say one to two stops better than Mark II, but I have not tested it.
2 stops is substantial.

Hmm tough choices. 🙂
 
The benefits for Mark II are not so evident for landscape photography.

I would list the following as advantages that matter. You must decide whether it is worth the price difference.

- Brighter rear LCD
Might be good for bright day time shooting
- Better articulating rear LCD
This is a good feature for waist level shooting which I might need
Also above head, when you do not have a ladder to climb on :). Mark I does not twist both ways.
Ah true. That makes sense
- Auto ISO in M mode
This is a good one
- Wired remote
I'll use a time delay shutter on tripod
Me too, but if you need to time it (e.g., waves, quick light changes), you may want to attach the wired release.
Another good point.
- More function buttons
Dont need it.
- Shorter blackouts
Doesnt matter to me. I still love the X1DII.
Note that better IBIS requires an iOS device.
This is what I am debating about. How much better is the IBIS on the mark 2. If I can get 1/2s handheld shot I am happy.
The slowest handholding time depends on you. I would say one to two stops better than Mark II, but I have not tested it.
2 stops is substantial.
Take it with a grain of salt (untested) and count on one stop 😄.
Hmm tough choices. 🙂
 
The benefits for Mark II are not so evident for landscape photography.

I would list the following as advantages that matter. You must decide whether it is worth the price difference.
  • Brighter rear LCD
Might be good for bright day time shooting
  • Better articulating rear LCD
This is a good feature for waist level shooting which I might need
Also above head, when you do not have a ladder to climb on :). Mark I does not twist both ways.
Ah true. That makes sense
  • Auto ISO in M mode
This is a good one
  • Wired remote
I'll use a time delay shutter on tripod
Me too, but if you need to time it (e.g., waves, quick light changes), you may want to attach the wired release.
Another good point.
  • More function buttons
Dont need it.
  • Shorter blackouts
Doesnt matter to me. I still love the X1DII.
Note that better IBIS requires an iOS device.
This is what I am debating about. How much better is the IBIS on the mark 2. If I can get 1/2s handheld shot I am happy.
The slowest handholding time depends on you. I would say one to two stops better than Mark II, but I have not tested it.
2 stops is substantial.
Take it with a grain of salt (untested) and count on one stop 😄.
We are spoiled. Not long ago an additional stop would have taken sorcery.
 
Ive thought about the X2D with the XCD 21 for a dedicated landscape setup. Now that the X2DII is out and the price is very tempting I am thinking if I should consider this one instead. But then the prices of used X2D have fallen to become too tempting as well. I am finding mint used X2Ds for the low 4K USD. My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup? I know the X2DII has much faster AF and low light focusing capabilities but that shouldn't matter if I am only going to use it for landscape photography? Also since I plan on sticking to the original XCD lenses I might not even see any improvement in AF performance on the new camera.

Is the IBIS on the mark 2 that much better than the OG X2D? I might want to shoot waterfalls handheld at 1/2s or 1s shutter speed. Is that possible with the X2D or will I have to upgrade to the mark 2?

Tough 1st world problems :-)

TIA for any input.
Personally, I'm keeping the X2D. There are two things that interest me about the X2D2 over the X2D: the better rear-screen fold-out and the miniature joystick. The IBIS on the X2D is really awesome, so an incremental upgrade doesn't really appeal to me. None of these items makes me want to buy the "newest and greatest."
How incremental is it?
Small, according to reviews. Based only on what I've read, it doesn't really matter to me, as the IBIS with the X2D is pretty substantial already.
 
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Ive thought about the X2D with the XCD 21 for a dedicated landscape setup. Now that the X2DII is out and the price is very tempting I am thinking if I should consider this one instead. But then the prices of used X2D have fallen to become too tempting as well. I am finding mint used X2Ds for the low 4K USD. My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup? I know the X2DII has much faster AF and low light focusing capabilities but that shouldn't matter if I am only going to use it for landscape photography? Also since I plan on sticking to the original XCD lenses I might not even see any improvement in AF performance on the new camera.

Is the IBIS on the mark 2 that much better than the OG X2D? I might want to shoot waterfalls handheld at 1/2s or 1s shutter speed. Is that possible with the X2D or will I have to upgrade to the mark 2?

Tough 1st world problems :-)

TIA for any input.
I thought you were a GFX shooter? Seems the 100s/ii and 20-35 would be a better dedicated setup…
I am shooting GFX for mostly people stuff and moving subjects. Anytime faster AF is needed or I have to shoot for paid work I am shooting GFX. Plus I have most of the lenses in the GF ecosystem. I do shoot GFX for landscape as well but I am loving the Hasselblad X system for my personal shooting and the X2D is getting too tempting to ignore. I always wanted to keep a dedicated landscape system almost like a fixed lens camera and with the used prices of X2D, it is getting too tempting to ignore. Dont get me wrong, I still love the GFX system esp the GF glass.
If you are set on Hasselblad, I sold my X2D before the launch of the X2Dii, and received my X2Dii few weeks back…my primary use would be landscape. The X2Dii improvements are subtle but noticeable, mainly the improved low light AF, joystick and tilting screen. With that said, I am on the fence about keeping and going back to the X2D or maybe going with GFX, which is the best value proposition with more telephoto options…the cost of the Hasselblad glass is a tough pill to swallow, but I do love the rendering.
I only have the XCD 45P, the 35-75, and will look for XCD 21 if I get the X2D. That will complete my Hasselblad X system.
Overall, the X2D is a great value and will serve you very well as a dedicated landscape camera….although the 100s and 20-35 would too with more flexibility, and could add the 35-70…I am talking myself into going back to GFX :)
If you decide to get back to GFX, I can take the X2DII off your hands in return for the 100S and GF 35-70 plus some additional $$. :-)
Good luck
 
Ive thought about the X2D with the XCD 21 for a dedicated landscape setup. Now that the X2DII is out and the price is very tempting I am thinking if I should consider this one instead. But then the prices of used X2D have fallen to become too tempting as well. I am finding mint used X2Ds for the low 4K USD. My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup? I know the X2DII has much faster AF and low light focusing capabilities but that shouldn't matter if I am only going to use it for landscape photography? Also since I plan on sticking to the original XCD lenses I might not even see any improvement in AF performance on the new camera.

Is the IBIS on the mark 2 that much better than the OG X2D? I might want to shoot waterfalls handheld at 1/2s or 1s shutter speed. Is that possible with the X2D or will I have to upgrade to the mark 2?

Tough 1st world problems :-)

TIA for any input.
I thought you were a GFX shooter? Seems the 100s/ii and 20-35 would be a better dedicated setup…
I am shooting GFX for mostly people stuff and moving subjects. Anytime faster AF is needed or I have to shoot for paid work I am shooting GFX. Plus I have most of the lenses in the GF ecosystem. I do shoot GFX for landscape as well but I am loving the Hasselblad X system for my personal shooting and the X2D is getting too tempting to ignore. I always wanted to keep a dedicated landscape system almost like a fixed lens camera and with the used prices of X2D, it is getting too tempting to ignore. Dont get me wrong, I still love the GFX system esp the GF glass.
If you are set on Hasselblad, I sold my X2D before the launch of the X2Dii, and received my X2Dii few weeks back…my primary use would be landscape. The X2Dii improvements are subtle but noticeable, mainly the improved low light AF, joystick and tilting screen. With that said, I am on the fence about keeping and going back to the X2D or maybe going with GFX, which is the best value proposition with more telephoto options…the cost of the Hasselblad glass is a tough pill to swallow, but I do love the rendering.
I only have the XCD 45P, the 35-75, and will look for XCD 21 if I get the X2D. That will complete my Hasselblad X system.
Overall, the X2D is a great value and will serve you very well as a dedicated landscape camera….although the 100s and 20-35 would too with more flexibility, and could add the 35-70…I am talking myself into going back to GFX :)
If you decide to get back to GFX, I can take the X2DII off your hands in return for the 100S and GF 35-70 plus some additional $$. :-)
Good luck
How do you like the 35-75? Have you considered moving to the 35-100? I only have the 55v currently, but would add the 35-100 and 135+1.7, the 21 would be tempting as well.

I am still in my return window with BH for the X2Dii, only took a few test shots….need to decide here shortly.
 
Ive thought about the X2D with the XCD 21 for a dedicated landscape setup. Now that the X2DII is out and the price is very tempting I am thinking if I should consider this one instead. But then the prices of used X2D have fallen to become too tempting as well. I am finding mint used X2Ds for the low 4K USD. My question is will I lose something if I got a used X2D for a dedicated landscape setup? I know the X2DII has much faster AF and low light focusing capabilities but that shouldn't matter if I am only going to use it for landscape photography? Also since I plan on sticking to the original XCD lenses I might not even see any improvement in AF performance on the new camera.

Is the IBIS on the mark 2 that much better than the OG X2D? I might want to shoot waterfalls handheld at 1/2s or 1s shutter speed. Is that possible with the X2D or will I have to upgrade to the mark 2?

Tough 1st world problems :-)

TIA for any input.
I thought you were a GFX shooter? Seems the 100s/ii and 20-35 would be a better dedicated setup…
I am shooting GFX for mostly people stuff and moving subjects. Anytime faster AF is needed or I have to shoot for paid work I am shooting GFX. Plus I have most of the lenses in the GF ecosystem. I do shoot GFX for landscape as well but I am loving the Hasselblad X system for my personal shooting and the X2D is getting too tempting to ignore. I always wanted to keep a dedicated landscape system almost like a fixed lens camera and with the used prices of X2D, it is getting too tempting to ignore. Dont get me wrong, I still love the GFX system esp the GF glass.
If you are set on Hasselblad, I sold my X2D before the launch of the X2Dii, and received my X2Dii few weeks back…my primary use would be landscape. The X2Dii improvements are subtle but noticeable, mainly the improved low light AF, joystick and tilting screen. With that said, I am on the fence about keeping and going back to the X2D or maybe going with GFX, which is the best value proposition with more telephoto options…the cost of the Hasselblad glass is a tough pill to swallow, but I do love the rendering.
I only have the XCD 45P, the 35-75, and will look for XCD 21 if I get the X2D. That will complete my Hasselblad X system.
Overall, the X2D is a great value and will serve you very well as a dedicated landscape camera….although the 100s and 20-35 would too with more flexibility, and could add the 35-70…I am talking myself into going back to GFX :)
If you decide to get back to GFX, I can take the X2DII off your hands in return for the 100S and GF 35-70 plus some additional $$. :-)
Good luck
How do you like the 35-75? Have you considered moving to the 35-100?
I like the 35-75. It renders nicely. I am sticking to the older XCD lenses as I think Hasselblad made too many design compromises in making the newer XCD lenses small and light.
I only have the 55v currently, but would add the 35-100 and 135+1.7, the 21 would be tempting as well.
Based on Jim's test the 135 would be tempting for me as well. The 21 would be my next purchase if I got the X2D.
I am still in my return window with BH for the X2Dii, only took a few test shots….need to decide here shortly.
 

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