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Pretty much my exact thoughts.I’m traveling at the moment and can’t really scrutinize properly, but the pics look great on my phone. Should be a great compact walkabout lens in good light. I would love if they made a fast premium XF lens in this range.
You knew!I think phone cameras might be behind this trend.
Yes, and people are so used to it that when I took a close-up portrait of a tall lady in her early twenties with a portrait lens from ~2m distance, she looked at the camera screen then, and asked:I remember various shooting guides telling us how hard it was to compose an ultrawide shot. But with an UWA lens in every pocket people have either learned how to compose good shots or have grown used to rectilinear distortion, and now they want kit lenses that can shoot wide.
On S1R, the cheap, sharp, miniature, and lightweight 20-60 serves well as a pocketable wide-angle. This 13-33 one may end up being the same thing for Fuji X to someone (maybe even to me, pre-owned for a bargain price).And I don't think we've reached the end of the line yet. iPhone 17 and Pixel 9 have two main lenses that would require a 9-18 or a 8-16 zoom from Fujifilm, they can go *seriously* wide. A 9-18 kit zoom that can utilize sensor cropping on 40MP bodies to become a 18-36 zoom is the likely next step.
I was hoping for this for exactly the same reason. It's pretty much a copy mechanically of the well-liked Panasonic 12-32 for micro 4/3, although of course the focal lengths have a different meaning. The design allows a lot of flexibility in both use and storage as it's up to you whether you actually want to collapse it.I was very pleasantly surprised when it was announced as a mechanical zoom, as that wipes out my main objection to the 15-45, which is its horribly slow startup and shutdown times.
I definitely want one of these; the range is a much better fit than the 15-45 for my purposes and the annoyance factor of the 15-45 is non-existent in the 13-33 . I'm not buying a X-T30 III just to get one though.So I’m on the fence as to whether to get one.
Not sure what you mean. Perspective distortion is a product of perspective, not a lens.One of my complaints about the 15-45 is the perspective distortion
Do you mean barrel distortion?and it looks like the 13-33 is quite similar. I have a Tuit 12mm and it corrects that distortion in the lens itself
Perspective distortion (converging verticals etc.) is a function of focal length and shooting position relative to the subject, this is never corrected in camera. Whatever inherent geometric distortion is present in the 15-45 and 13-33 design is corrected electronically in-camera. There should be no practical difference in usage relative to the Zeiss.One of my complaints about the 15-45 is the perspective distortion and it looks like the 13-33 is quite similar. I have a Tuit 12mm and it corrects that distortion in the lens itself so it is a joy to use.
I don't mind so much correcting in pp, so the 15-45 and the 13-33 both should have a place in my bag since they are so light and small. I guess I will sell the 15-45 and, eventually, keep the 13-33 due to it's wider angle.
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I'm not an expert and may not be describing it perfectly, but with the 15-45 invariably I get converging walls and building becoming pyramids. I see the same thing on the 13-33 samples. With my Touit at 12mm I still get straight walls. I believe the lens has some sort of correction for that. My experience is that it is relatively distortion free.Not sure what you mean. Perspective distortion is a product of perspective, not a lens.One of my complaints about the 15-45 is the perspective distortion
Do you mean barrel distortion?and it looks like the 13-33 is quite similar. I have a Tuit 12mm and it corrects that distortion in the lens itself
But I see no issues with any lens distortion in the 13-33 sample gallery, nor in any images from the 15-45. (There’s almost certainly correction happening inside the firmware, but that’s not the point here.)
Is this the common misconception where people take a wide angle lens, tilt it off-horizontal and think that the convergence of vertical lines is a lens characteristic?
It is perspective distortion — an inevitable product of perspective, as mentioned earlier. To correct the perspective at the time of shooting, you need a shift lens.I'm not an expert and may not be describing it perfectly, but with the 15-45 invariably I get converging walls and building becoming pyramids. I see the same thing on the 13-33 samples.Not sure what you mean. Perspective distortion is a product of perspective, not a lens.One of my complaints about the 15-45 is the perspective distortion
Do you mean barrel distortion?and it looks like the 13-33 is quite similar. I have a Tuit 12mm and it corrects that distortion in the lens itself
But I see no issues with any lens distortion in the 13-33 sample gallery, nor in any images from the 15-45. (There’s almost certainly correction happening inside the firmware, but that’s not the point here.)
Is this the common misconception where people take a wide angle lens, tilt it off-horizontal and think that the convergence of vertical lines is a lens characteristic?
Ummm... can you please explain or provide samples? Do you mean that the walls become curved instead of remaining straight, even though they are perspective-tilted? If yes, this is the question of lens profile, which either is nonexistent or not applied automagically.With my Touit at 12mm I still get straight walls.
For distortion-free photos, the Chinese brand LAOWA (Venus Optics) offers a line of high-quality "Zero-D" lenses, some of which also feature shift for perspective correction. However, most of their offerings aren't listed for Fuji X-mount, and the only native X-mount option I'm aware of is the Laowa 12-24mm f/5.6 Zoom Shift CF zoom lens, which isn't declared to be "Zero-D".I believe the lens has some sort of correction for that. My experience is that it is relatively distortion free.
If you shoot your 12mm lens pointed at the horizon (so not tilted up or down), then this is why you're not getting converging lines.I'm not an expert and may not be describing it perfectly, but with the 15-45 invariably I get converging walls and building becoming pyramids. I see the same thing on the 13-33 samples. With my Touit at 12mm I still get straight walls. I believe the lens has some sort of correction for that. My experience is that it is relatively distortion free.Not sure what you mean. Perspective distortion is a product of perspective, not a lens.One of my complaints about the 15-45 is the perspective distortion
Do you mean barrel distortion?and it looks like the 13-33 is quite similar. I have a Tuit 12mm and it corrects that distortion in the lens itself
But I see no issues with any lens distortion in the 13-33 sample gallery, nor in any images from the 15-45. (There’s almost certainly correction happening inside the firmware, but that’s not the point here.)
Is this the common misconception where people take a wide angle lens, tilt it off-horizontal and think that the convergence of vertical lines is a lens characteristic?
I absolutely agree. Perhaps I have inadvertently been more careful with the Zeiss lens due to it's higher cost and prestige. I might have been more casual and less precise using the 15-45. I stand corrected. The Zeiss is incredibly sharp, however.If you shoot your 12mm lens pointed at the horizon (so not tilted up or down), then this is why you're not getting converging lines.
Same will happen when using any other lens, as long as you point it towards the horizon line buildings will be straight.
Try it out with your own lens - point up and any building will become a pyramid.
The “trend” is self adulation. Lenses need to be wide and light enough to hold with a stretched out hand.I will not comment on photos by themselves, but rather on lenses.
I feel that 13-33 follows the current trend in the design of "standard kit" zoom lenses. The kit lenses we were used to in the past covered the FL range of about 28-70mm on FF, were slow even at the wide end, and featured questionable IQ. Fuji XF 18-55/2.8-4.0 was an outstanding exception due to its IQ, build, and overall quality.
Then, from some moment, the trend made a turn. In 2018, the Fujifilm XC 15-45mm F3.5-5.6 OIS PZ was introduced. In 2020, we saw the arrival of the Panasonic Lumix S 20-60mm F3.5-5.6.
Kit lenses began to get wider, extremely lightweight and compact, yet very sharp wide open.
The trend continues: in 2024, Panasonic introduced even more compact and lightweight (and even slower, but crazy sharp) Panasonic S 18-40mm F4.5-6.3. Sony in 2024 - Sony E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS II at 107 g. These are FF.
2025 - and we see the Fujifilm XC 13-33mm F3.5-6.3 OIS, even tinier than XC 15-45, lighter, and crazy sharp. Pretty much follows the trend.
I didn't do any extensive research, though - my two systems are FF Panasonic and Fuji X, I don't follow news from other systems attentively, so I can't insist that my identification of the trend is correct. But if confirmed, it will mark an interesting tendency.