Laowa 200 f2, EF mount!

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Smaller and lighter than anything else that came before as a 200 f2, impressive.

Interesting that Laowa has taken this approach and in all honesty I'm very interested in replacing my 100-500 with it. That sounds a bit crazy I think I hear many of you say, but reality is this lens on the R5ii is going to offer a "crazy" level of crop options, all the way potentially to 400 f4 in post ie a 4k crop @4096, certainly the in-camera 200 f2 and 320 3.2 are going to provide far more subject isolation at a reasonable distance and match the 100-300 2.8, if not quite the same level of iq obviously, but at 1/10 of the price, yes 1/10 and 50% of the weight and a stop faster too. It becomes increasingly interesting if the new R7ii comes along soon too with around 30mp, which might work really well as a two body set-up with the R5ii.

Long term, might others follow this path and revert to EF mount and adapter, if Laowa can achieve it, at a cheaper cost as well than the native Sony E and Nikon Z, then surely Viltrox and Sigma/Tamron must be able to as well.

All in all, a very encouraging move by Laowa and I hope they come with many more EF af options now they have it apparently sorted.

If Canon does announce the 300-600 4-5.6, this laowa 200 f2 and the 300-600 will make a very interesting tele duo.
 
What I find interesting with this lens, is that they are kind of avoiding the RF mount embargo by Canon for third party lenses.

They provide the lens in EF mount, and propose an EF-RF adapter. Together, they are about the same size as the same lens for other mounts. I know this is not the same as a true native RF mount lens. But this is a non-IS lens, it doesn't need the same level of communication with the camera than IS lenses.

I'll be curious to see reviews of this lens on Canon RF bodies.
 
What I find interesting with this lens, is that they are kind of avoiding the RF mount embargo by Canon for third party lenses.
Samyang were stopped from using their reverse engineered EF protocol on RF bayonet lenses. Nobody's reverse engineered the RF protocols yet. Personally I would never buy the RF mount version of an EF mount lens as it wouldn't fit my DSLR or my collection of EOS M cameras.
They provide the lens in EF mount, and propose an EF-RF adapter. Together, they are about the same size as the same lens for other mounts. I know this is not the same as a true native RF mount lens. But this is a non-IS lens, it doesn't need the same level of communication with the camera than IS lenses.

I'll be curious to see reviews of this lens on Canon RF bodies.
Phillip Reeve likes it on Nikon Z.
 
Smaller and lighter than anything else that came before as a 200 f2, impressive.
They've had to make trade-offs to make it that small and cheap. It doesn't perform like the Big Boys of course, but will definitely appeal to some folks.
Interesting that Laowa has taken this approach and in all honesty I'm very interested in replacing my 100-500 with it. That sounds a bit crazy I think I hear many of you say, but reality is this lens on the R5ii is going to offer a "crazy" level of crop options, all the way potentially to 400 f4 in post ie a 4k crop @4096, certainly the in-camera 200 f2 and 320 3.2 are going to provide far more subject isolation at a reasonable distance and match the 100-300 2.8, if not quite the same level of iq obviously, but at 1/10 of the price, yes 1/10 and 50% of the weight and a stop faster too. It becomes increasingly interesting if the new R7ii comes along soon too with around 30mp, which might work really well as a two body set-up with the R5ii.
From the test images posted, it looks like it'll have to be stopped down to f/2.8 to increase contrast and resolution (I'd say especially if a TC is going to be used).
Long term, might others follow this path and revert to EF mount and adapter, if Laowa can achieve it, at a cheaper cost as well than the native Sony E and Nikon Z, then surely Viltrox and Sigma/Tamron must be able to as well.
Sigma already debuted theirs last month. $3300 vs $1800 tho.

I've always wanted to own Canon's EF 200 f/2L IS. I've shot with it and it's incredible. It's available for about $3500 on FleaBay. I'll be interested to see how Sigma's new lens compares (it also has IS).
All in all, a very encouraging move by Laowa and I hope they come with many more EF af options now they have it apparently sorted.
It's about all they can do...
If Canon does announce the 300-600 4-5.6, this laowa 200 f2 and the 300-600 will make a very interesting tele duo.
I'm thinking that a 300-600 f/4 - 5.6 will be too heavy for me (bad back). I love the light weight of the 100-500 +/- 1.4x, esp when using Pre-capture (which I keep permanently enabled now).

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I've always wanted to own Canon's EF 200 f/2L IS. I've shot with it and it's incredible. It's available for about $3500 on FleaBay. I'll be interested to see how Sigma's new lens compares (it also has IS).
To me it seems Sigma is tiny bit sharper and has more contrast: https://www.the-digital-picture.com...LensComp=458&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0
Thanks for the comparison.

And here I'm trying to DOWN-SIZE!! Dang.

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All these new releases of niche lenses are awesome. Bonus that the Laowa had to be released in EF.

I regret selling my Nikon 200/2 AI fourteen years ago and always keep my eye open for a bargain. I used it on Canon DSLRs.

The EF 200/1.8 and EF 200/2 have heald their values insanely well which puts them beyond my budget. I would choose a used EF 200/2 over the Sigma and I would choose a used Nikon 200/2 AI-S or AF-S over the Laowa, even though manual focus only.
 
Smaller and lighter than anything else that came before as a 200 f2, impressive.

Interesting that Laowa has taken this approach and in all honesty I'm very interested in replacing my 100-500 with it. That sounds a bit crazy I think I hear many of you say, but reality is this lens on the R5ii is going to offer a "crazy" level of crop options, all the way potentially to 400 f4 in post ie a 4k crop @4096, certainly the in-camera 200 f2 and 320 3.2 are going to provide far more subject isolation at a reasonable distance and match the 100-300 2.8, if not quite the same level of iq obviously, but at 1/10 of the price, yes 1/10 and 50% of the weight and a stop faster too. It becomes increasingly interesting if the new R7ii comes along soon too with around 30mp, which might work really well as a two body set-up with the R5ii.

Long term, might others follow this path and revert to EF mount and adapter, if Laowa can achieve it, at a cheaper cost as well than the native Sony E and Nikon Z, then surely Viltrox and Sigma/Tamron must be able to as well.

All in all, a very encouraging move by Laowa and I hope they come with many more EF af options now they have it apparently sorted.

If Canon does announce the 300-600 4-5.6, this laowa 200 f2 and the 300-600 will make a very interesting tele duo.
What is Laowa thinking with this product release? They should have released it on the RF mount!
 
What is Laowa thinking with this product release? They should have released it on the RF mount!
No doubt they would love to. But they can't, ask Canon why.
 
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What is Laowa thinking with this product release? They should have released it on the RF mount!
Even if it were possible to sell it in RF mount (it's not possible until somebody reverse engineers a way around the parents that works reliably or Canon started licensing full-frame lenses) I would always buy the EF version of a lens that used the same glass. It's so much more versatile and won't be significantly bigger or less balanced in the adapter than the RF version. And selling the lens in EF mount makes it available to L mount and Fuji F & G mount users too.
 
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Canon EF 200/f2 L IS can be found used in UK for just over £2000, which seems a pretty good price.
 
Canon EF 200/f2 L IS can be found used in UK for just over £2000, which seems a pretty good price.
Oh nice. Send one over to me! :-D

They're almost double that here on FleaBay.

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What is Laowa thinking with this product release? They should have released it on the RF mount!
No doubt they would love to. But they can't, ask Canon why.
The irony, for anyone who thinks Canon is driven by anything else but greed.
What should a for-profit business be driven by?
You're why they don't change.
No, you are just assuming that. Besides, they have changed a lot over time. Perhaps not in a way you would want them to

Anyway, do you have any answer? That might lead us to what is driving this rather than blaming the person asking questions

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